Programming APT AE96600 controller (update: NOT recommended , unstable program)

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Re: Programming APT AE96600 controller (UPDATE: don't buy, unstable program)

Post by therobby3 » Mar 26 2021 9:17am

I've got a 96800 controller coming from them in a few weeks. They told me it will be set to pull a max 180 battery amps when it arrives, but max it can be set to is 300 battery amps. Looking through this post, it looks like there are a lot of parameters for settings on this controller. If I simply want to make this controller pull it's maximum 300A so I can get the most power out of it, is this going to be easy to do or am I going to also have to change all kinds of other settings?

I figured I'd stay ahead of things and ask the question ahead of time before it arrives. I'd also like to not fry the controller messing with too many settings. >.< I'm new with electric controllers/motors, so I figured it'd be safe to ask.

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Re: Programming APT AE96600 controller (UPDATE: don't buy, unstable program)

Post by larsb » Mar 26 2021 9:42am

Just set the mode dc current to whatever you need and you’re ok. That and the phase current setting obviously needs to be right for your motor.

If you don’t know the correct phase angle setting for your motor then that needs to be found.

There are a few others that need to be set like low volt/ high volt etc. If you’re experienced at tuning controllers and the seller haven’t restricted the program then it’s mostly pretty easy, if you’re new to it then this controller isn’t really the best for you.

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Re: Programming APT AE96600 controller (UPDATE: don't buy, unstable program)

Post by therobby3 » Mar 26 2021 12:13pm

Ok thanks for the fast response, much appreciated!

So sounds like it should be simple then. I've got their biggest mid drive, the 8kw/30kw peak one, so I think it should easily handle it. Still waiting on it and the controller. But I'll refer back here then once it comes in a few weeks. I'm assuming it's set up for my motor when it arrives, and that I'll just have to tweak the battery and phase amp settings I hope.

Thanks!

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Re: Programming APT AE96600 controller (UPDATE: don't buy, unstable program)

Post by larsb » Mar 26 2021 1:20pm

Is that the 180 motor? Interesting. Please start a thread on it when you’re there :thumb:

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Re: Programming APT AE96600 controller (UPDATE: don't buy, unstable program)

Post by therobby3 » Mar 26 2021 2:22pm

Yup, it's the 180 90H. I'm hoping it's pretty beast. I haven't seen any videos or heard anything on anyone else running one though. I'm hoping that controller is able to fully utilize it as well. I'll be sure to post my build once it comes in and such. I'm using it in a sport ATV. :)

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Re: Programming APT AE96600 controller (UPDATE: don't buy, unstable program)

Post by Scootdan » Mar 26 2021 3:46pm

Absolute fearsome beast! I just fired up my new 96800 controller on my 12k wheel and it is awesome. Mind numbing power. Mind twisting speed. I am a pretty semi handy newbie and I fired it right up. Now if I can figure out how it works! I am running a 72v. 100a battery right now and the seller had me download new firmware to limit current? I guess if it is set for 96v and 300a battery it could be dangerous to run a 100a battery? I think I still need to adjust the current in the drive manager software, but so far I have not been able to open it. I am hoping it is done with the new firmware? Anyway I would love to share a picture or video so you guys can see this. It has so much torque it can wheelie the entire test stand I made for it, without touching the ground! I am hopeful I can learn it is right before any road testing, which is a couple of weeks away. I am so excited with this new toy, I had to jump right into a post when I saw someone else was getting a 96800 too. Now I will go back and read all the posts! I also read we are to keep chit chat to a minimum in posts so I am mindful of that, and please forgive too much excitement and happiness. So far I love my 96800s and hope to learn and share all I can about them. Thanks guys.

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Re: Programming APT AE96600 controller (UPDATE: don't buy, unstable program)

Post by therobby3 » Mar 26 2021 8:48pm

Oh wow, that is really great to hear! What are you running yours in though? I noticed this is an "e-bike" section, so I'm hopping your not using it in a bicycle? Are you building/testing it in a full size motorcycle?

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Re: Programming APT AE96600 controller (UPDATE: don't buy, unstable program)

Post by Scootdan » Mar 26 2021 10:45pm

Yes I am building a monster scooter with two monster e-motorcycle wheels. It is meant to be even stronger than a motorcycle build, since power at both wheels. I am shooting for under 300lbs! with the undersized 72v battery I have now. I am building room for a 96v battery I will buy if I survive the 72v! I have not posted a picture here yet, and I have not read all the rules, but I see an attachment button below so I will try to post a picture or two of what I have so far. Brother I am very much interested in your e-atv! That sounds fantastic also! Life is good 😊

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Re: Programming APT AE96600 controller (UPDATE: don't buy, unstable program)

Post by Scootdan » Mar 26 2021 10:51pm

I found this forum on a search for apv controllers, and it took me straight to this thread in ebikes anyway. It is all good, looks like lots to learn here.
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Re: Programming APT AE96600 controller (UPDATE: don't buy, unstable program)

Post by Scootdan » Mar 26 2021 10:59pm

It works! Very cool. I can’t wait to see your monster mid motor and atv. Is it a retrofit? How heavy? Fun stuff!

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Re: Programming APT AE96600 controller (UPDATE: don't buy, unstable program)

Post by Scootdan » Mar 26 2021 11:32pm

These controllers are extra heavy and have the most awesome DENSE feeling. They are epoxy set and totally solid. I am very impressed and happy. The speed control, at least on the test stand is very good and it seems easy to go slowly very smoothly also. Can you tell I am excited?
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Re: Programming APT AE96600 controller (UPDATE: don't buy, unstable program)

Post by therobby3 » Mar 29 2021 7:52am

Wow, a motor on both wheels? lol that will definitely be pretty crazy! Just make sure your safe. :lol: Yours looks pretty good so far!

Great to hear your are liking the controller though, I'm super excited and I hope my motor and controller don't keep getting delayed when shipping. It's spring and I'm getting super antsy to get mine up and running. Mine is using a Yamaha Raptor 700 atv, and I'm shooting for somewhere around its normal stock weight or less. It just depends on how big of a battery I plan to make. Very excited though!

Good luck with yours!

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Re: Programming APT AE96600 controller

Post by bingbwy » Apr 07 2021 8:23pm

larsb wrote:
Nov 18 2018 2:33pm
I don't even know what degrees the motor actually are in are they degrees c or f
it's in deg C as the controller temp reading vs outside temperature corresponds well in deg C.

I have done some trials tonight. At least some progress..

-Mode 5 is boost mode, seems like protection settings are ignored and max set phase current is delivered.

-Mode 4 is normal mode and settings from the "protection" screen is followed.

The different current steps are related to the rpms that is set for the mode:
I tried setting mode "4" speed to 2550rpm and then set a current increase from 100A to 300A at "Iqref 6" on the protection screen and the result is a change at roughly 1200 rpms.
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6step/13step=0,46 and 1200/2550=0,47 so they correlate quite well.

I can't get any flux weakening current readout even though i set it. Idref is always zero on the readout screen. Hmm.

My Max Rpm 1265

How can I increase this value? I want 1950rpm. Is it possible only with boost mode enabled?

i used apt 72400

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Re: Programming APT AE96600 controller (update: NOT recommended , unstable program)

Post by larsb » Apr 08 2021 7:01am

What’s your theoretic max rpm?
(It’s calculated as kV x measured battery voltage)

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Re: Programming APT AE96600 controller (update: NOT recommended , unstable program)

Post by Scootdan » Apr 11 2021 2:32am

Raptor atv sounds like great fun. Hope to see you rolling soon sir. Thanks for your comments. Yes safety first always. I ride a dual motor Dualtron scooter now and it has strong acceleration, but should be nothing compared to the monster. I am just getting started, and am having trouble learning how to program these controllers. I need to limit the current to run my 72v battery, I have been told, so I am working on that now. If anyone here is expert enough to talk me through it and help me limit my current on my 96800s I will pay at least $125. I also saw some pics here of the APT 961000 which looks awesome! Very cool you can make your own monster batteries also friend. You are going to be one happy camper when you get your new APT!

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