My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! NEW FREY EX and FREY CC

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! NEW FREY EX and FREY CC

Post by Simonten » Jan 01 2020 7:25pm

I Wonder how the Frey Ex compares to the Excess HP-E180. Both Ultra M620 motors. The Hp is 4-5kgs Lighter though it looks as if the the reach and wheel base is longer.

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! NEW FREY EX and FREY CC

Post by Davnic » Jan 01 2020 8:16pm

Rohloff hub with a gates belt drive I would be a buyer. Riese and Muller emtb is my dream bike

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! NEW FREY EX and FREY CC

Post by Tom » Jan 02 2020 4:21pm

Davnic wrote:
Jan 01 2020 8:16pm
Rohloff hub with a gates belt drive I would be a buyer.
Not sure I could live with the noise of a Rohloff hub but FLX may have what you are looking for in the new Blade 2.0:

https://flx.bike/collections/bikes/products/blade-2-0

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! NEW FREY EX and FREY CC

Post by Davnic » Jan 03 2020 1:28am

Its a ht but I'll take a look thanks.
R and M make a nice bike but way over the top on price for me and I think Frey could build it for allot less.

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! NEW FREY EX and FREY CC

Post by Sinbord1981 » Feb 27 2020 6:56pm

My latest unboxing video now that I've started taking delivery of a few of these for UK-based customers. Awesome bit of kit guys. High end components, good quality, well packaged and great value.


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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! NEW FREY EX and FREY CC

Post by wiRider » Feb 29 2020 8:11am

Nice video, the EX is a good looking bike! Would love to see a CC unboxing :wink:

Is the EX toward the end of the video the matte black?

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! NEW FREY EX and FREY CC

Post by Sinbord1981 » Feb 29 2020 2:10pm

CC unboxing coming to a screen near you soon!

Yes that’s a Matt black EX towards the end.

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! NEW FREY EX and FREY CC

Post by roissy » Mar 01 2020 6:33pm

garyal1 wrote:
Oct 18 2019 9:28am

I bought these 14S 40amp BMS (s) for about $20 delivered thru Alibaba.
I know this is a bit late, but do you have a link for these???
I am looking at the same type of battery...

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! NEW FREY EX and FREY CC

Post by garyal1 » Apr 07 2020 8:46pm

Never too late:

https://dalyelec.en.alibaba.com/?spm=a2 ... st_company

cut and paste into your browser

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! NEW FREY EX and FREY CC

Post by garyal1 » Apr 08 2020 12:33am

Does anyone know if the EX Pro with two batteries can deliver 2 x 30 AMPS to the ultra? I think it can with the "combiner" device.

If it can do so, then this Frey EX dual batt model would be a GREAT Candidate to upgrade the controller thru Watt Wagons or Exess since the power system is already 28AH at 52 volts and if it can supply 60 amps...…...2300 watts with 3000 watt bursts would really be fun on a FS bike like this.

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! NEW FREY EX and FREY CC

Post by hqmhqm2020 » May 07 2020 8:52pm

I just received the Frey CC bike that I ordered in December, which had a group buy on shipping to the US.

Boy is it heavy! But it works very well. This is the first electric bike I have bought. I tried out some bikes in the local
dealer, from Trek and some other manufacturers. They were definitely lighter, but I feel like the Frey bike is kind of indestructable, it is a beast. Reminds me of the Chevy Blazer I had in high school. I don't mind riding this over washed out roads and I don't mind if it gets beat up. However I would not like to have to pedal it by myself if the battery runs out. It really weighs a ton.

Everything was packed well, and I had no trouble assembling it, even though I don't know much about bicycle maintenance. I need to invest in a torque wrench though, I felt bad about tightening the front axle as it had a torque rating on it.

One minor annoyance, I had ordered fenders, and the rear fender is scraping the tire, and it looks like a pain to
remove it, you need to take the wheel off, which I guess I will have to do at some point anyway in the future to replace brake pads or replace the chain something. In the meantime I cable tied it to the cargo rack to keep it away from the tire.

I am impressed how the bike can fly up a hill, even given how heavy it is. The suspension is great, with the weight and
travel of the shocks, it is possible to be comfortable driving over some really trashed out of the way roads and trails. Like I said, it reminds me of driving a big 1970's American vehicle.

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! NEW FREY EX and FREY CC

Post by Tom » May 08 2020 1:25am

I'm posting my CC updates on EBR (link below if anyone is interested). Cliff notes version: bike is gorgeous, power is fantastic, battery and torque sensing not so much. Hopefully you ordered a spare battery, I did not. I pedaled my ass off today and only got 35 miles range. Hopefully range will increase after a few charges as the cells balance.

https://electricbikereview.com/forums/t ... -cc.33631/

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! NEW FREY EX and FREY CC

Post by Twistgripper » May 08 2020 1:15pm

Care to post the actual weight? I'm curious as I'm sure others are... I checked the mfr page and of course it is not listed.

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! NEW FREY EX and FREY CC

Post by Tom » May 08 2020 7:55pm

73 pounds with rack and fenders which jives with Frey spec posted up thread.

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! NEW FREY EX and FREY CC

Post by jeron » May 28 2020 1:37am

Somebody know whats up with Frey customer service. The response is horrible the last month or two.

I was very pleased the first month's with the response but now with a almost one year old bike it's really a bad experience:(

I don't like to publicly say that because i like them as a company, but it's a total disaster and i am getting frustrated.

Lots of Alibaba chat and mails to @frey with no responses...

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! NEW FREY EX and FREY CC

Post by Tom » May 28 2020 2:09am

Seems like they have grown significantly, not just direct to consumer but it looks like they are producing bikes for QuietKat and Jeep, and even Bolton is offering a bike that looks like a rebadged AM1000 with Frey's patented rear suspension. Hopefully they have added support staff to handle.

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! NEW FREY EX and FREY CC

Post by efMX Trials Electric Freeride » May 28 2020 2:18am

do you have a link for that patent filing.. bc I didn't see it yet;)..
some ride & sk8 videos:
metacafe.com/channels/NATAS666DAMIEN
http://www.youtube.com/natas666damien
i have nothing for sale.. :)

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! NEW FREY EX and FREY CC

Post by brake034 » May 28 2020 2:36am

jeron wrote:
May 28 2020 1:37am
Lots of Alibaba chat and mails to @frey with no responses...
Jeron, please copy me in, marcel at frey dot bike and I will help follow up.

I will discuss with Ivy to appoint one inside person to be responsible for after sales service........ :D
FREY lifestyle: Free Ride Enjoy Yourself!

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! NEW FREY EX and FREY CC

Post by Tom » May 28 2020 2:43am

efMX Trials Electric Freeride wrote:
May 28 2020 2:18am
do you have a link for that patent filing.. bc I didn't see it yet;)..
No link, but was mentioned in various articles. I doubt Jeep would risk going with a company that copied FREY's suspension so believe it is FREY making the Jeep ebike and some of the QuietKat models that look identical to FREY's offerings.

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! NEW FREY EX and FREY CC

Post by efMX Trials Electric Freeride » May 28 2020 3:29am

no links, vids or pics.. so it didn't happen?? sorry I don't have time or poor connection for BS??
some ride & sk8 videos:
metacafe.com/channels/NATAS666DAMIEN
http://www.youtube.com/natas666damien
i have nothing for sale.. :)

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! NEW FREY EX and FREY CC

Post by jeron » May 28 2020 5:20am

brake034 wrote:
May 28 2020 2:36am
jeron wrote:
May 28 2020 1:37am
Lots of Alibaba chat and mails to @frey with no responses...
Jeron, please copy me in, marcel at frey dot bike and I will help follow up.

I will discuss with Ivy to appoint one inside person to be responsible for after sales service........ :D
Mail forewarded

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! NEW FREY EX and FREY CC

Post by Tom » May 28 2020 2:37pm

efMX Trials Electric Freeride wrote:
May 28 2020 3:29am
no links, vids or pics.. so it didn't happen?? sorry I don't have time or poor connection for BS??
It was mentioned here: https://electrek.co/2019/09/16/frey-bik ... ex-am1000/
Frey Bike has a number of patents on the new models, mostly centering around the suspension linkage.
And here: https://electrek.co/2020/05/14/frey-am1 ... st-40-mph/
They’ve also designed their own patented suspension system, meaning they don’t have to pay a license to anyone else to use it.
I don't have any other specifics but I have no reason to doubt Micah who was on the FREY tour (see 4th post of thread). Also, if you look at the Jeep and QuietKat promotional materials they talk about a trademarked Fire Link suspension. It's clearly FREY's AM1000 suspension if you look carefully: https://quietkat.com/jeep-ebike/

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! NEW FREY EX and FREY CC

Post by efMX Trials Electric Freeride » May 28 2020 2:47pm

will have a read:).. may search for the patent filings after.. :bigthumb:
some ride & sk8 videos:
metacafe.com/channels/NATAS666DAMIEN
http://www.youtube.com/natas666damien
i have nothing for sale.. :)

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! NEW FREY EX and FREY CC

Post by NoFanBoiz » May 28 2020 5:54pm

jeron wrote:
May 28 2020 1:37am
Somebody know whats up with Frey customer service. The response is horrible the last month or two.

I was very pleased the first month's with the response but now with a almost one year old bike it's really a bad experience:(

I don't like to publicly say that because i like them as a company, but it's a total disaster and i am getting frustrated.

Lots of Alibaba chat and mails to @frey with no responses...
In the interests of openness, transparency and for current and potential customers, any reason why you wouldn't mention if there is an issue with your bike and if so, what the issue with the bike is? Or maybe it's for a new order?

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! NEW FREY EX and FREY CC

Post by jeron » May 29 2020 1:32am

NoFanBoiz wrote:
May 28 2020 5:54pm
jeron wrote:
May 28 2020 1:37am
Somebody know whats up with Frey customer service. The response is horrible the last month or two.

I was very pleased the first month's with the response but now with a almost one year old bike it's really a bad experience:(

I don't like to publicly say that because i like them as a company, but it's a total disaster and i am getting frustrated.

Lots of Alibaba chat and mails to @frey with no responses...
In the interests of openness, transparency and for current and potential customers, any reason why you wouldn't mention if there is an issue with your bike and if so, what the issue with the bike is? Or maybe it's for a new order?
The bike is an absolute dream (AM1000). I have a problem with the charger, the fan is making weird noises. I did wait for Frey to ressolve the issue first.

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