Norco Empire 8150 build (page 20 pic heavy)

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Norco Empire 8150 build (page 20 pic heavy)

Post by Timma2500 » Sep 02 2009 9:46am

Edit: Most of the original build pics are now back on page 20.

Paul :D
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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build

Post by 12p3phPMDC » Sep 02 2009 9:53am

Looks bad a$$ Timma!!!
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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build

Post by Timma2500 » Sep 02 2009 9:58am

Hehe thanks 12p3phPMDC! :D
Can't wait to get to ride it, the wait is killing me!

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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build

Post by dontsendbubbamail » Sep 02 2009 11:28am

Bubba be impressed. Did you have any problems with anything moving when you cut the tube out?

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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build

Post by Ypedal » Sep 02 2009 11:37am

Very nice !!!! 8)

Will there be pedals on this ? or just foot pegs ?
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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build

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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build

Post by etard » Sep 02 2009 7:07pm

Damn Timma!! I would have to so that's the best looking build I have seen so far. Is there anyway you can take a pic from further away, I am not familiar with that bike. Can't wait to see how that gearhead works out, I was looking into those, but was either disappointed with the weight, power handling, or the efficiency of them. Does it have a oil bath inside or does it run fairly dry? Nice work, I will be following daily.
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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build

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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build

Post by dontsendbubbamail » Sep 02 2009 7:16pm

etard wrote: Is there anyway you can take a pic from further away, I am not familiar with that bike.
If you download his 1st and 3rd picture you get the whole bike.

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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build

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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build

Post by mud2005 » Sep 02 2009 7:41pm

very nice design! can't wait to see this one running, good luck :mrgreen:
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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build

Post by Timma2500 » Sep 02 2009 7:52pm

mud2005 wrote:very nice design! can't wait to see this one running, good luck :mrgreen:
Thanks mud2005!

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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build

Post by boostjuice » Sep 02 2009 7:53pm

This build together with a handfull of other bikes are unique in how they use the battery enclosure - and in this case, gear reduction - as a stressed part of the frame.
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This needs to be the future of ebike frames which are well overdue for improved weight distribution and minimisation.

Well done backyard-custom-pioneer!

If only ebike mass manufacturers would wake up and stop tacking ebike kits onto traditional frames. They dont lend well to space optimisation at all....
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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build

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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build

Post by recumpence » Sep 02 2009 8:52pm

The constant caliber (quality) increase of bikes on this forum continues to amaze me. Truely stellar.

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That planetary should work well. However, if your reduction does not work well, I will work with you on a two stage drive. I really want to see this thing come together well.
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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build

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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build

Post by deecanio » Sep 03 2009 10:50am

Super looking build Timma 8) real "terminator" style to it!
hopefully you'll get this design nailed and then start selling the frames for home builders, this is where we really need to be and with things slowly coming together now we're not far off, keep us up to date :D

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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build

Post by MitchJi » Sep 03 2009 11:52am

Hi Paul,
Timma2500 wrote: Esc: CC HV140
Motor: Astro Flight 8150
Gearbox: BaneBots 16:1 planetary

A HTD 5m 15mm wide belt will be used with 28T/44T pulleys to start with and re-gear if its too high or low.

Guna use one of evlogic's throttleizers with the temp cutouts used on the motor and esc incase they get a bit too warm, just have to find the cash...

Paul :D :D
Nice start! :)

How many turns on the 8150 or what is the kv?

If 28t/44t 16:1 is too much running a little more reduction with the belt with a 12:1 banebots would probably be quieter.

I think evlogic's throttleizers have the option of monitoring 2 temps or 1 temp with LVC. You might not need to worry about the HV140 in any event:
recumpence wrote: The new HV140 is a freakin BEAST! That may be the best thing running right now. I have two and a friend of mine is running a 3220 and a HV140. He is pulling 200 amps off that controller without problems!

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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build

Post by Grinhill » Sep 04 2009 8:06pm

Superb work!!

Are there two of those boomerang shapes side by side in your new frame, and what's the thickness of those, they look very solid?

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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build

Post by StudEbiker » Sep 05 2009 1:36am

deecanio wrote:Super looking build Timma 8) real "terminator" style to it!
Could maybe be The Timmanator?? Very cool build. I look forward to watching the build and seeing the final product.
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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build

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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build

Post by rizzlo34 » Sep 09 2009 9:13am

Incredible work!!! I can't wait to see this thing go.
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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build

Post by johnrobholmes » Sep 09 2009 12:02pm

Do you know if the original frame was heat treated? Will you heat treat the frame when done? What grades of aluminum are the frame and battery box?


Excellent build, makes me want to start hacking on my santa cruz.
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Re: Norco Empire 8150 build

Post by johnrobholmes » Sep 09 2009 12:04pm

You totally hacked off the downtube didn't you!?!?!
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