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Re: Kuberg Free Rider

Post by LeftieBiker » Feb 12 2018 4:25pm

XS is a smaller version of the Freerider / Its because you get it with an RST fork instead of Manitou and the bike will be lower. Freerider STreet will not be in the US until late summer I think.
I configured a bike with the shorter fork and 20" wheels, and the seat height was then listed as the same 34.5". Anyone know the actual seat height with the short fork and 20" wheels? The fork is only .8" shorter...

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Re: Kuberg Free Rider

Post by efMX Trials Electric Freeride » Feb 13 2018 1:29pm

you could also lower the seat height by running a bit shorter rear shock.. of course this will reduce the suspension travel as well but if your riding street then you wouldn't need or want long travel suspension.. is the RST front suspension option still a dual crown fork? if so then you could run a single crown fork instead to lower the bike front end..

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LeftieBiker wrote:
Feb 12 2018 4:25pm
XS is a smaller version of the Freerider / Its because you get it with an RST fork instead of Manitou and the bike will be lower. Freerider STreet will not be in the US until late summer I think.
I configured a bike with the shorter fork and 20" wheels, and the seat height was then listed as the same 34.5". Anyone know the actual seat height with the short fork and 20" wheels? The fork is only .8" shorter...
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Re: Kuberg Free Rider

Post by LeftieBiker » Feb 13 2018 3:40pm

Thanks, but I don't want to have to extensively modify a bike just to fit on it. The Light Bee seems to be a better size.

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Re: Kuberg Free Rider

Post by skeetab5780 » Feb 14 2018 6:37am

LeftieBiker wrote:
Feb 13 2018 3:40pm
Thanks, but I don't want to have to extensively modify a bike just to fit on it. The Light Bee seems to be a better size.
The light bee is also: made in China
twice the weight of the Kuberg
cheaper in price
has a bigger battery with less C rating(range over power)
has better rear suspension
stronger but heavier wheels
has kickstand(who cares drop it)

If I didn't extensively modify my Freerider I would be way too big for it (6'3" 220lbs) the bike doesn't even weigh half of me(80lbs)
so changing a rear shock isn't the end of the world

I think each bike has their place. Id like to ride with a Sur-ron but unfortunately there aren't many ebikers near me

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Re: Kuberg Free Rider

Post by LeftieBiker » Feb 15 2018 5:35am

The light bee is also: made in China
twice the weight of the Kuberg
cheaper in price
has a bigger battery with less C rating(range over power)
has better rear suspension
stronger but heavier wheels
has kickstand(who cares drop it)
I though that the Freerider was 80lbs and the Light Bee 110...?

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Re: Kuberg Free Rider

Post by skeetab5780 » Feb 15 2018 7:59am

LeftieBiker wrote:
Feb 15 2018 5:35am
The light bee is also: made in China
twice the weight of the Kuberg
cheaper in price
has a bigger battery with less C rating(range over power)
has better rear suspension
stronger but heavier wheels
has kickstand(who cares drop it)
I though that the Freerider was 80lbs and the Light Bee 110...?
for some reason I thought Sur-ron was 75kg but apparently its only 50kg. A owner will have to chime in on official weight, my bad

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Re: Kuberg Free Rider

Post by LeftieBiker » Feb 15 2018 4:57pm

I remember thinking, looking at the specs, that the Light bee with the pack removed (30lbs) would weigh the same as the Freerider with pack on board.

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Re: Kuberg Free Rider

Post by skeetab5780 » Mar 02 2018 12:40pm

Got these from Sur-ron thread, yes this is off topic but just clearing up my earlier post

48v battery weighs 10kg, 48v bike complete weigh s 50kg
60v battery weighs 12kg, 60v bike complete weighs 52kg

so 115 pounds versus 84 pounds

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Re: Kuberg Free Rider

Post by adrmoto » May 29 2018 1:50pm

For those of you looking for a test drive in the US we are a Kuberg dealer located in the midwest next to Cincinnati, OH in Lawrenceburg, IN. I am in love with the Kuberg line of electric dirt bikes. They make so much sense for a lot of reasons. I have several reviews and videos on my FB page just search Adrenaline Motorsports Toys. I love how quick you can tune them to teach new kids how to ride by easily turning the bike down and back up as they progress.

As for the Free Rider and the Pro 50, if you don't own one you are missing out. These have tremendous power and I am impressed every time I take one out. I went up a hill yesterday after the rain and climbed it like a tank. Same hill I needed 4x4 in with my quad. This was the first time that I took out the Free Rider over the holiday weekend. Before that it was just test drives on pavement not wanting to get it dirty. Well its a full on demo unit now. This thing was a beast in the trails. I have grown up on motorsports since I was 5 and the instant torque electric gives off is addicting. You can start from a dead stop and take off up hills like nothing. I am 5'9" and 185 lbs. Yes I prob look goofy to some but I felt right on it. I had no problem getting on with seat height and the suspension is top notch and super forgiving. My only upset was I ended my day with a flat. Any one know what tires the guy had that was racing the enduro event with in an earlier thread? Electric is where its's at.

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Re: Kuberg Free Rider

Post by efMX Trials Electric Freeride » May 29 2018 5:31pm

adrmoto wrote:
May 29 2018 1:50pm
For those of you looking for a test drive in the US we are a Kuberg dealer located in the midwest next to Cincinnati, OH in Lawrenceburg, IN. I am in love with the Kuberg line of electric dirt bikes. They make so much sense for a lot of reasons. I have several reviews and videos on my FB page just search Adrenaline Motorsports Toys. I love how quick you can tune them to teach new kids how to ride by easily turning the bike down and back up as they progress.

As for the Free Rider and the Pro 50, if you don't own one you are missing out. These have tremendous power and I am impressed every time I take one out. I went up a hill yesterday after the rain and climbed it like a tank. Same hill I needed 4x4 in with my quad. This was the first time that I took out the Free Rider over the holiday weekend. Before that it was just test drives on pavement not wanting to get it dirty. Well its a full on demo unit now. This thing was a beast in the trails. I have grown up on motorsports since I was 5 and the instant torque electric gives off is addicting. You can start from a dead stop and take off up hills like nothing. I am 5'9" and 185 lbs. Yes I prob look goofy to some but I felt right on it. I had no problem getting on with seat height and the suspension is top notch and super forgiving. My only upset was I ended my day with a flat. Any one know what tires the guy had that was racing the enduro event with in an earlier thread? Electric is where its's at.
If you're still running the 20" bicycle rim on the rear of your freerider then you should be able to fit a 16" moto tire on that same rim instead (just be careful with the tire levers not to damage the rim) .. the moto tire will last much longer than the bicycle tire, can be ran at lower pressure if desired for more traction, will be higher speed rated and much much more flat resistant.. something like a shinko 241 trials tire 2.75 or 3" x 16" size .. if your running the 24" bicycle rear rim, consider upgrading the rear rim to 19" moto rim and tire (it will have close to the same outer diameter) .. kuberg should also consider offering moto rear tire as an option (or upgrade).. for example : stealth electric bikes, LMX bikes, etc come with moto rear tire and Sur-ron light bee comes with 19" moto tires front and rear..
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Re: Kuberg Free Rider

Post by skeetab5780 » May 29 2018 6:40pm

Im actually thinking about going to 18” moto front and back on mine, the only thing holding me back is the weight at the moment since i have dnm forks and they are flexy already. Best thing about its setup now is that its so tall everyone is scared to ride it...keep it all to my 6’3 self :)

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Re: Kuberg Free Rider

Post by efMX Trials Electric Freeride » May 29 2018 7:30pm

skeetab5780 wrote:
May 29 2018 6:40pm
Im actually thinking about going to 18” moto front and back on mine, the only thing holding me back is the weight at the moment since i have dnm forks and they are flexy already. Best thing about its setup now is that its so tall everyone is scared to ride it...keep it all to my 6’3 self :)
aren't you currently running 26" front and 24" rear bicycle rims and tires on your modified freerider?? if so then 21" front and 19" rear moto rims and tires will be closer to your current wheel combination outer diameter.. 18" moto rims and tires will be heavier because they normally only come in wider (rear) sizes, whereas 19" and 21" moto rims and tires are available in narrower (front) lighter weight sizes (1.4 or 1.6 rim width) .. prowheel play bike rims with holmes moped nipples ..
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Re: Kuberg Free Rider

Post by skeetab5780 » May 29 2018 7:54pm

They are actually lighter than what ive seen, they also have lightest tire by far from any moto tires, they look like maxis holy rollers but moto. They are the eastgem 24” special wheels. I got them a while ago but never ran them. I dont need to keep the bike so big. Ill have to measure seat height its taller than 250cc bikes.

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Re: Kuberg Free Rider

Post by efMX Trials Electric Freeride » May 29 2018 8:32pm

skeetab5780 wrote:
May 29 2018 7:54pm
They are actually lighter than what ive seen, they also have lightest tire by far from any moto tires, they look like maxis holy rollers but moto. They are the eastgem 24” special wheels. I got them a while ago but never ran them. I dont need to keep the bike so big. Ill have to measure seat height its taller than 250cc bikes.
ok so you have these rims :
http://www.eastgem.net/motorcycle-rim-24.html

and these tires :
http://www.eastgem.net/tire-24x3.html

or something else??

that's a pretty nice setup, but I would probably want a bit more knobby tires for aggressive off-road use..
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Re: Kuberg Free Rider

Post by skeetab5780 » May 30 2018 6:44am

Yes im pretty sure they are lighter than any mx ive seen by far making them worth it to me. Im already using holy rollers so im used to this type of traction. I typically ride hard packed trails. The only thing i dont like about them is the 10awg spokes. Its all they offer

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Re: Kuberg Free Rider

Post by adrmoto » May 30 2018 12:09pm

efMX Trials Electric Freeride wrote:
May 29 2018 5:31pm
adrmoto wrote:
May 29 2018 1:50pm
For those of you looking for a test drive in the US we are a Kuberg dealer located in the midwest next to Cincinnati, OH in Lawrenceburg, IN. I am in love with the Kuberg line of electric dirt bikes. They make so much sense for a lot of reasons. I have several reviews and videos on my FB page just search Adrenaline Motorsports Toys. I love how quick you can tune them to teach new kids how to ride by easily turning the bike down and back up as they progress.

As for the Free Rider and the Pro 50, if you don't own one you are missing out. These have tremendous power and I am impressed every time I take one out. I went up a hill yesterday after the rain and climbed it like a tank. Same hill I needed 4x4 in with my quad. This was the first time that I took out the Free Rider over the holiday weekend. Before that it was just test drives on pavement not wanting to get it dirty. Well its a full on demo unit now. This thing was a beast in the trails. I have grown up on motorsports since I was 5 and the instant torque electric gives off is addicting. You can start from a dead stop and take off up hills like nothing. I am 5'9" and 185 lbs. Yes I prob look goofy to some but I felt right on it. I had no problem getting on with seat height and the suspension is top notch and super forgiving. My only upset was I ended my day with a flat. Any one know what tires the guy had that was racing the enduro event with in an earlier thread? Electric is where its's at.
If you're still running the 20" bicycle rim on the rear of your freerider then you should be able to fit a 16" moto tire on that same rim instead (just be careful with the tire levers not to damage the rim) .. the moto tire will last much longer than the bicycle tire, can be ran at lower pressure if desired for more traction, will be higher speed rated and much much more flat resistant.. something like a shinko 241 trials tire 2.75 or 3" x 16" size .. if your running the 24" bicycle rear rim, consider upgrading the rear rim to 19" moto rim and tire (it will have close to the same outer diameter) .. kuberg should also consider offering moto rear tire as an option (or upgrade).. for example : stealth electric bikes, LMX bikes, etc come with moto rear tire and Sur-ron light bee comes with 19" moto tires front and rear..
Anyone try the CST C183A in a 3.0-16? or the IRC Intermediate terrain front in a 2.5-16 ? And yes I still have the stock size wheels.

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Re: Kuberg Free Rider

Post by efMX Trials Electric Freeride » May 30 2018 6:18pm

adrmoto wrote:
May 30 2018 12:09pm
efMX Trials Electric Freeride wrote:
May 29 2018 5:31pm
adrmoto wrote:
May 29 2018 1:50pm
For those of you looking for a test drive in the US we are a Kuberg dealer located in the midwest next to Cincinnati, OH in Lawrenceburg, IN. I am in love with the Kuberg line of electric dirt bikes. They make so much sense for a lot of reasons. I have several reviews and videos on my FB page just search Adrenaline Motorsports Toys. I love how quick you can tune them to teach new kids how to ride by easily turning the bike down and back up as they progress.

As for the Free Rider and the Pro 50, if you don't own one you are missing out. These have tremendous power and I am impressed every time I take one out. I went up a hill yesterday after the rain and climbed it like a tank. Same hill I needed 4x4 in with my quad. This was the first time that I took out the Free Rider over the holiday weekend. Before that it was just test drives on pavement not wanting to get it dirty. Well its a full on demo unit now. This thing was a beast in the trails. I have grown up on motorsports since I was 5 and the instant torque electric gives off is addicting. You can start from a dead stop and take off up hills like nothing. I am 5'9" and 185 lbs. Yes I prob look goofy to some but I felt right on it. I had no problem getting on with seat height and the suspension is top notch and super forgiving. My only upset was I ended my day with a flat. Any one know what tires the guy had that was racing the enduro event with in an earlier thread? Electric is where its's at.
If you're still running the 20" bicycle rim on the rear of your freerider then you should be able to fit a 16" moto tire on that same rim instead (just be careful with the tire levers not to damage the rim) .. the moto tire will last much longer than the bicycle tire, can be ran at lower pressure if desired for more traction, will be higher speed rated and much much more flat resistant.. something like a shinko 241 trials tire 2.75 or 3" x 16" size .. if your running the 24" bicycle rear rim, consider upgrading the rear rim to 19" moto rim and tire (it will have close to the same outer diameter) .. kuberg should also consider offering moto rear tire as an option (or upgrade).. for example : stealth electric bikes, LMX bikes, etc come with moto rear tire and Sur-ron light bee comes with 19" moto tires front and rear..
Anyone try the CST C183A in a 3.0-16? or the IRC Intermediate terrain front in a 2.5-16 ? And yes I still have the stock size wheels.
CST C183A looks like a pretty similar tread pattern to shinko 241, lots of ppl on here are running the shinko 241(including me) .. but the CST website doesn't seem to list the C183A as available in 16" size (that I saw)..

which tread pattern IRC? this one :
http://www.irc-tire.com/en/mc/products/dirt/gs-45z1/

FRONT
IRC No. SIZE TREAD TYPE L.I. OVERALL
DIAMETER OVEROLL
WIDTH
T10334 2.50-16 GS45Z1 TT 36L 546 75

looks good to me, worth a try.. about 3" measured tire width.. comes stock as original equipment on the HONDA CRF80 & CRF100 and the KAWASAKI KLX110.. what is the max tire width that will fit on the freerider rear (without contacting the chain, etc)??

this thread has a lot of discussion about running different moto tires on ebikes / emotos ..
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=55458
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Re: Kuberg Free Rider

Post by adrmoto » May 31 2018 2:12pm

efMX Trials Electric Freeride wrote:
May 30 2018 6:18pm
adrmoto wrote:
May 30 2018 12:09pm
efMX Trials Electric Freeride wrote:
May 29 2018 5:31pm
adrmoto wrote:
May 29 2018 1:50pm
For those of you looking for a test drive in the US we are a Kuberg dealer located in the midwest next to Cincinnati, OH in Lawrenceburg, IN. I am in love with the Kuberg line of electric dirt bikes. They make so much sense for a lot of reasons. I have several reviews and videos on my FB page just search Adrenaline Motorsports Toys. I love how quick you can tune them to teach new kids how to ride by easily turning the bike down and back up as they progress.

As for the Free Rider and the Pro 50, if you don't own one you are missing out. These have tremendous power and I am impressed every time I take one out. I went up a hill yesterday after the rain and climbed it like a tank. Same hill I needed 4x4 in with my quad. This was the first time that I took out the Free Rider over the holiday weekend. Before that it was just test drives on pavement not wanting to get it dirty. Well its a full on demo unit now. This thing was a beast in the trails. I have grown up on motorsports since I was 5 and the instant torque electric gives off is addicting. You can start from a dead stop and take off up hills like nothing. I am 5'9" and 185 lbs. Yes I prob look goofy to some but I felt right on it. I had no problem getting on with seat height and the suspension is top notch and super forgiving. My only upset was I ended my day with a flat. Any one know what tires the guy had that was racing the enduro event with in an earlier thread? Electric is where its's at.
If you're still running the 20" bicycle rim on the rear of your freerider then you should be able to fit a 16" moto tire on that same rim instead (just be careful with the tire levers not to damage the rim) .. the moto tire will last much longer than the bicycle tire, can be ran at lower pressure if desired for more traction, will be higher speed rated and much much more flat resistant.. something like a shinko 241 trials tire 2.75 or 3" x 16" size .. if your running the 24" bicycle rear rim, consider upgrading the rear rim to 19" moto rim and tire (it will have close to the same outer diameter) .. kuberg should also consider offering moto rear tire as an option (or upgrade).. for example : stealth electric bikes, LMX bikes, etc come with moto rear tire and Sur-ron light bee comes with 19" moto tires front and rear..
Anyone try the CST C183A in a 3.0-16? or the IRC Intermediate terrain front in a 2.5-16 ? And yes I still have the stock size wheels.
CST C183A looks like a pretty similar tread pattern to shinko 241, lots of ppl on here are running the shinko 241(including me) .. but the CST website doesn't seem to list the C183A as available in 16" size (that I saw)..

which tread pattern IRC? this one :
http://www.irc-tire.com/en/mc/products/dirt/gs-45z1/

FRONT
IRC No. SIZE TREAD TYPE L.I. OVERALL
DIAMETER OVEROLL
WIDTH
T10334 2.50-16 GS45Z1 TT 36L 546 75

looks good to me, worth a try.. about 3" measured tire width.. comes stock as original equipment on the HONDA CRF80 & CRF100 and the KAWASAKI KLX110.. what is the max tire width that will fit on the freerider rear (without contacting the chain, etc)??

this thread has a lot of discussion about running different moto tires on ebikes / emotos ..
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=55458
Very nice write up on Bike vs MC rims. I read all about that once but never seen it in one page. The one issue I see on the back tire of the kuberg is clearing the subrame for tires height not so much the width. Plenty of room for more width but if it pushes the tire taller it will be to close to the subframe. That is all I am worried about. Also that is the IRC I was asking about.

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Re: Kuberg Free Rider

Post by Bassiesbike » Sep 29 2018 6:41am

Hi all, first time poster here!
I’ve been reading this very interesting thread. Thanx for all the usefull info thus far!
A few weeks ago I found a used and spect out Freerider here in the Netherlands. Unfortunate this week it stopt running and gives a repeatedly rattling sound from the (12kw) controller. Green light pulsates, so the battery should be good. I did load the battery and checked the connections within the controller. Everything looks solid. I do have the 8Kw controller, so i’m thinking to swap it with the 12 kw in the bike. Anyone of you experienced Freeriders have any idea what’s happening here? I have no warranty on the bike so I’d thought I’ll ask it here first... Help would be much appreciated!

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Re: Kuberg Free Rider

Post by skeetab5780 » Oct 01 2018 2:18pm

Bassiesbike wrote:
Sep 29 2018 6:41am
Hi all, first time poster here!
I’ve been reading this very interesting thread. Thanx for all the usefull info thus far!
A few weeks ago I found a used and spect out Freerider here in the Netherlands. Unfortunate this week it stopt running and gives a repeatedly rattling sound from the (12kw) controller. Green light pulsates, so the battery should be good. I did load the battery and checked the connections within the controller. Everything looks solid. I do have the 8Kw controller, so i’m thinking to swap it with the 12 kw in the bike. Anyone of you experienced Freeriders have any idea what’s happening here? I have no warranty on the bike so I’d thought I’ll ask it here first... Help would be much appreciated!

Regards,
Bas
I don't think anyone on this forum has a freerider that actually rides it and can help you troubleshoot. I'm the only one who regularly posts on the freerider, but my bike doesn't use any of the stock components. I built it frame up

I would start by testing the battery making sure it is actually outputting voltage and its not being cut off by a BMS, or test the 12kw controller with a different battery if you have one available of similar voltage.

then I would test the bike on the 8kw controller to see if the 12kw controller has a fault somewhere, process of elimination is the best methods

Post some pics please if you can

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Re: Kuberg Free Rider

Post by skeetab5780 » Oct 05 2018 11:22am

wanted to post a pic of my Kuberg bike with the new 18" Denzel wheels on it, since this thread is lacking pics overall figured why not. This is only possible with the swing extended(pretty easy job)
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