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Bafang BBS02 48v 750w - Stock Problems - Part 1
Saturday, February 14, 2015
6:51 AM
Hello All,
The title is a bit of a misnomer, the issues aren't with the kit really as much as people with little or no knowledge installing it on their bikes and then blowing controllers, burning up gears, and a host of other problems.
The BBS-02 @ 48v may output no load of 100 RPM to the Cranks, under load this becomes 100 *.83 = 83 RPM at the Crank.
Average 20" (non BMX, they use tiny front chaining - another issue) uses 44-48t front Chainring. Performance 20" like my folders use 48-52t.
Rear cassette on aforementioned 20" runs from 11 to 32, so lets examine this a minute:
Tallest Ratio (11t):
48 / 11 = 4.3636 : 1
83 RPM Crank Cadence *
83 * 4.3636 = 362.1788 RPM
On a 20 bike this is a bit low really I prefer to run a 52-53T front chainring for a better ratio and top end.
Take this same setup as described above and apply it to a 26" bike
26 * 336 = 8,736 / 362.1788 = 24.1207 mph
29 * 336 = 9,744 / 362.1788 = 26.9038 mph
The last is for 29" and based on 48T unit
Now for the RUB… while all this is fine, most people don't use the right gear for the job either… going up a hill in 3rd but with the motor at 1/2 it's capable RPM putting its efficiency in the toilet (50% if that) and shedding tons of heat not to mention the constant partial switching of lower quality FETs and poof bye bye controller.
Riding a mid drive is like riding a motorcycle in that you listed for the fastest the motor goes, it sounds like it has no more, then shift up a gear and if you get the same effect, another shift but once you don't get there / that sound, go back down a gear and keep the throttle maxxed out. This is even more true going up steep hills and will combined with proper gearing described above keep your Bafang BBS02 750w going quite a long time and it really can be a very dependable piece of Kit.
Based on my investigation of about 13 failed units. (while I won't reveal their names, not a single owner weighed a pound under 250 and one was > 325 lbs) add poor gear selection for top speeds the motor would just never reach and poof.
Hope this helps explain some of the mythical issues of the BBS02 which shouldn't effect thoughts of buying one.
I have more "Secret Knowledge" of the BBS02 which I will be revealing in time as I collect my data, if you know me … I'm all about the data!
-Mike
Saturday, February 14, 2015
6:51 AM
Hello All,
The title is a bit of a misnomer, the issues aren't with the kit really as much as people with little or no knowledge installing it on their bikes and then blowing controllers, burning up gears, and a host of other problems.
The BBS-02 @ 48v may output no load of 100 RPM to the Cranks, under load this becomes 100 *.83 = 83 RPM at the Crank.
Average 20" (non BMX, they use tiny front chaining - another issue) uses 44-48t front Chainring. Performance 20" like my folders use 48-52t.
Rear cassette on aforementioned 20" runs from 11 to 32, so lets examine this a minute:
Tallest Ratio (11t):
48 / 11 = 4.3636 : 1
83 RPM Crank Cadence *
83 * 4.3636 = 362.1788 RPM
On a 20 bike this is a bit low really I prefer to run a 52-53T front chainring for a better ratio and top end.
Take this same setup as described above and apply it to a 26" bike
26 * 336 = 8,736 / 362.1788 = 24.1207 mph
29 * 336 = 9,744 / 362.1788 = 26.9038 mph
The last is for 29" and based on 48T unit
Now for the RUB… while all this is fine, most people don't use the right gear for the job either… going up a hill in 3rd but with the motor at 1/2 it's capable RPM putting its efficiency in the toilet (50% if that) and shedding tons of heat not to mention the constant partial switching of lower quality FETs and poof bye bye controller.
Riding a mid drive is like riding a motorcycle in that you listed for the fastest the motor goes, it sounds like it has no more, then shift up a gear and if you get the same effect, another shift but once you don't get there / that sound, go back down a gear and keep the throttle maxxed out. This is even more true going up steep hills and will combined with proper gearing described above keep your Bafang BBS02 750w going quite a long time and it really can be a very dependable piece of Kit.
Based on my investigation of about 13 failed units. (while I won't reveal their names, not a single owner weighed a pound under 250 and one was > 325 lbs) add poor gear selection for top speeds the motor would just never reach and poof.
Hope this helps explain some of the mythical issues of the BBS02 which shouldn't effect thoughts of buying one.
I have more "Secret Knowledge" of the BBS02 which I will be revealing in time as I collect my data, if you know me … I'm all about the data!
-Mike