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GreenMachine allMod aftCycloneVz DaveRc Tangent astro 3220

Post by aCeMadMod » Sep 06, 2015 12:23 pm

hi i will been make a downhill ebike use both cyclone mid drive and Tangent Dave Motor RC mid drive kit
give be a review how well each of can work with fully mods.

for my case stock kit was not ez to use . i have made alot the parts my self.

here what i have one in middrives one barebones kit
http://www.tangentmotors.com
esc ice 2 160 amp
http://www.astroflight.com/3220 it s t6 3220 motor

the maker of this gearbox his ebike if you have not found it, great work this hope last link of makeing rc motor work well.
https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewt ... 28&t=70099

one http://www.cyclone-tw.com/order-1chain.htm
1680 W " one chainwheel Kit" speed up to 75km/h 24-48V 650-1680W geared motor with 48V 100A max control kelly


i got alot of work done to day to get motor plates done. from i found out the plan in your head never go the way you want.. i don't know if a help a Es Gods or the devil some time's it turn out better i hope. i have a very hard time too get any metal to work with make do with what i have... not so much fun some times.

i can't to resize pic's i try use photobucket.com tools dose seem to work. to make them smaller ? any one know what best for resize pic?
i was hopeing to show alot more thing i make



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let the blow up off parts start. :roll:

update 2015/09/13
i was waiting for 30x 8 mm gold bullets want i just got now. but i seem need some more 5.5 mmgold bullets before i can start wireing it up (

i made a new cover for right side out some thing of wood i had around, i very happy how it never up for the first go .
i most like make a alloy one later. i found it ez to keep up date in the 1 page. have a look every few days i most likey have some thing new done. sill need to cut the key for motor my last i will try to do, i don;t want to srew this up.

update 2015/09/18 i been waiting for more part .. i was needing a halflink for my h415 chian.. dam. it did not fit. so i had to try drill the halflink out not ez it very hard steel. it took me about 1 hour to made it fix . into h415 chian. :(
i hope i don't have to do it agian
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update i have a new rear hub comeing . http://www.amazon.com/Shimano-SG-S501-A ... merReviews

my gearing is crazy low work out by es thud :D .. 8 mph low gear hight is 13 mph,,, i hope the new hub can go faster.
thank you
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Re: Green Machine ebike Cyclone Vz Dave Tangent Motor mid d

Post by aCeMadMod » Sep 11, 2015 2:29 pm

this for cyclone setup and review

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mod for cyclone thank for all es for info. but my hat go off the rus crazy tank driver. for kill a few motors to find the limts. i sill add a few thing the rus dude did not do to his mods.
https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewt ... 28&t=68648

https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewt ... 02#p881302 5000 watt

i need to find some piant for inside motor to stop rust .. in au it not ez to find doc is too lucky to a can for $5 in can,. and -20 c for cooling
https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewt ... =2&t=66049

i was lucky to find a can of this 18410 – Seal Coat®Red Urethane Coating .. i hopeing it ok for the job it say max temp 100 c. i hope not to go any near that temp. i was careful. to cover up what i did not for paint. :wink:

http://www.crcindustries.com/ei/product ... x?id=18410

case harding sunwheels with this , http://usaknifemaker.com/cherry-red-cas ... r-1lb.html

it dose a better job then water or oil. i try both before.

adding a fan best price i could find
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97mm 33mm New Blower 12V 28CFM Computer PC Fan Sleeve Bearing 2pin 97x33mm
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/271764614917 ... EBIDX%3AIT

and adding 100cm x 10cm Car Insulation Heat Shield Sheet Mat Sound Deadener
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/301402495517 ... EBIDX%3AIT


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Re: Green Machine ebike Cyclone Vz Dave Tangent Motor mid d

Post by aCeMadMod » Sep 23, 2015 3:37 am

hi all i got broad waiting for 5.5mm bullet connectors ... and the frame is neeeding a repaint . i start too take off the black,, agian for 4 time or 5 time ,, that i own the frame.. i need to make the rear of the frame alot stonger.. or i need to find a good i need a welder i can tust . here not alot around. here. :( i guess it will take me a other 2 or 3 weeks to get the ebike to be running
need new bearing , the a very hard to find, and costly i need 6 of last time the best price i could find was $25 each x 6 = $150 :( with a hight au $ ,. and now au $ shit agian.. i hate to see the cost now.
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i make a other downhill ebike with the cyclone motor. i use some the cooling the crazy rus dude. it now stage 4 cyclone mods. work very well. very lucky find parts that just work first time from bin :D
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Re: Green Machine ebike Cyclone Vz Dave Tangent Motor mid d

Post by Nathan » Sep 23, 2015 7:30 am

i make a other downhill ebike with the cyclone motor. i use some the cooling the crazy rus dude. it now stage 4 cyclone mods
What mods did you do , do you have photos of them? what power do you run ?

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Re: Green Machine ebike Cyclone Vz Dave Tangent Motor mid d

Post by aCeMadMod » Sep 24, 2015 6:08 am

update cyclone mods

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Re: Green Machine ebike aftCyclone Vz Dave TangentMotor midd

Post by jk1 » Sep 24, 2015 8:23 pm

wow cool mods, how did you drill the holes in the motor ? did you take out the windings ?

What power can it run now without overheating ?

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Re: Green Machine ebike aftCyclone Vz Dave TangentMotor midd

Post by aCeMadMod » Sep 25, 2015 3:37 am

hi i use a 10mm bit on a mill.... if i copy rus tank dude i would kill my motor. drilling it. nom drill bit you have less then 3 mm gap from pvc broad to alloy motor Case. and i know how to get the wireing stor core out... but it way to hard :( and not worth it. to me to try kill motor for not much agian.

has for rateing it only a guess. before max was about 800 watt for 5km climb after i guess i can use safe 1000watt to 1300 watt safe under 75 c temp/ . and peak power mean shit to me.. not really useful. for km's of long sleep climbing. @26 degs plus

good lucky to the cyclone fat bike own. trying @2100 watt out haetsink or any cooling or upgrades. my guess it kill magets fast, temp most likey over 100 deg :shock: good thing they will not have to replace sungear. just the whole motor and gearbox 8) i guess that save them money.

rus tank dude use 9 mm holes.. i may open my holes biger if need to . After Drilling yes clean motor out with alot alot alot compress air.

i sill try to work out how to water cool this motor. not ez. to do .

3220 motor alot better for watercooling which i try to :D

thank you all for Q and more welcome to reply to thank you like to talk about . i like to keep add to my mian pages. i add pic's and more info 8)
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Re: Green Machine ebike aftCyclone Vz Dave TangentMotor midd

Post by Nathan » Sep 25, 2015 6:34 pm

ahh ok you use a mill and make sure to not go lower then 3mm under .

How did you get all the fillings out of the windings ?

Do you use any fan for cooling or just natural air flow ?

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Re: Green Machine ebike aftCyclone Vz Dave TangentMotor midd

Post by aCeMadMod » Sep 28, 2015 6:41 am

update panting close to be done. cyclone mod :D yes i have seal oil gearbox has well and magents. i update alot info and links. in other pages.

sill wiating for 5,5 mm bullets. :(
blower fan
Automatic PC CPU Fan Temperature Control Speed Controller
http://www.ebay.com/itm/12V-Digital-PWM ... OS:US:1123
mian bearing
need to repant frame .
then crash test it.

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Re: Green Machine ebike aftCyclone Vz Dave TangentMotor midd

Post by aCeMadMod » Oct 03, 2015 9:11 am

hi all very happy i got my 5.5 mm bullets con. and i work out how change my lipo. in my back pack after 2 years i am slow , i whiss i would done a very long time, save my 2 time burning my hands, now i can use 2 lipo changes take off 30% in time. and alot ez. not need to take part lipo to change just change plugs.

i got my afine 8 hub. i was lucky to find all the parts to make a new wheel. alot of dyi in this wheel

now i just need a way holding the wheel in the rear of the frame it not ez. if you have any idear i open to hear them, 8)

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Re: Green Machine ebike aftCyclone Vz Dave TangentMotor midd

Post by aCeMadMod » Oct 07, 2015 6:52 am

pic cyclone mid drive work very well. it only 3 rides to tune up . not need to touch beside, cleaning and oil chians . O yes for all you think a heat sink save your motor.. you be shocked :shock: :shock: :shock: how hot the air is comeing out my motor. i wait for tool to test it. to show numbers



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Re: Green Machine ebike aftCyclone Vz Dave TangentMotor midd

Post by Rev » Oct 09, 2015 5:23 am

Hey mate - really keen to hear your experience of the internal gear hub with the mid drive kit. How does it handle the power? I have an aft 1680w kit and would love to try an internal hub or back but am worried the motor might wear it out too quick.

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Re: Green Machine ebike aftCyclone Vz Dave TangentMotor midd

Post by aCeMadMod » Oct 13, 2015 8:57 am

hi all yes sill on told to remake Green Machine Dave TangentMotor middrive ebike , i wanting for mian bearing, solder and Ultra Light Center Lock Adapter For 6 Bolt Rotor
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/3-Colors-ASH ... 19fb6eaa8e
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got some cool BRUSH ON ELECTRICAL TAPE LIQUID INSULATOR PROTECTION SEALANT 118ML BLACK for $21 posted which is good.
http://www.plastidip.com/home_solutions/Liquid_Tape

has for useing alfine 8. i need to work away of holding in place without cutting the axle. i not got to test it out so i don't know how long it last but if it 2000km to 3000km i am happy. at 6000km . i be jumping over the es moon. :D

cyclone mods close to all been done. i upgrade to new fan ,, all i can say wow it help alot now i can start pushing alot more power out , not need to baby it all the time , no need for a heat sink. it cooled down in less 1 min to hand wram. temp i try upgrade kelly mini for more power. this ebike not the best for long rides. eat alot power my lipo 4x 8000 ha only last full ball 15 km 1300 watt. run out of gears to pust it harder

i use the same pack on Green Machine with cyclone not full mods max range was 55km with alot my power too. and alot slower

thank you all

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Re: Green Machine ebike aftCyclone Vz Dave TangentMotor midd

Post by aCeMadMod » Oct 23, 2015 7:00 am

hi all got more parts upgrade fan much more fun now cyclone ,feel safe to use bigger kelly esc.

wiating for solder, from china . all my parts come from ebay. it only i able to get parts. slow but they do get here.

i upload m0re pic later

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Re: GreenMachine allMod aftCyclone Vz Dave TangentMotor midd

Post by Nathan » Oct 23, 2015 4:16 pm

So you use the fan and temp controller also ? where did u mount the temp controller sensor ? what temperatures does it read?

If you have that fan running most of the time you probably wont even have to worry about water getting in and rust.. as it would dry out very quickly while rideing, as long as u don't leave the whole bike out in the rain that is :)

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Re: GreenMachine allMod aftCyclone Vz Dave TangentMotor midd

Post by aCeMadMod » Oct 30, 2015 8:10 pm

hi all here one dave kits smaller 3010 motor it give a better idear of sound. 8)
i have to say if we have more idiots like this we all get put in Jail :shock: Top gear Ebike tv show we sould never have seen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ojifdokMKw


Wow look if it lound look at new
Kranked E Squared Video Review AkA cyclone aft ego look like they sill they cheap ass cyclone motor . they did make a new gearbox i :shock: it's 19.1 , or do any you know if a rip off from a other brand kits ?
Just one note V10 downhill frame are great has downhill bike Not a ebike . it Way tooo costly in replace parts. you wear them out Super fast or crack frame :x

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVBSumNZkTc
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Re: GreenMachine allMod aftCyclone Vz Dave TangentMotor midd

Post by Nathan » Oct 31, 2015 4:00 am

Wow that sounds so noisy in that video probably even louder than the cyclone motor ?

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Re: GreenMachine allMod aftCyclone Vz Dave TangentMotor midd

Post by aCeMadMod » Nov 11, 2015 6:39 am

i have my frame geting rewelded . i cut up thinker 4130 crmo. plates and got rid of the old plate from rear swing amy i hope next week to ebike back to working and repriant it :D


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once back work i get Db sound readings has ask before. witha smart phone 8)

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Re: GreenMachine allMod aftCyclone Vz Dave TangentMotor midd

Post by tangentdave » Nov 11, 2015 12:17 pm

zomg what are you doing to my drive?! It looks like you hooked it up to the output of your mill... ;)

I can't wait to see how you use this, hope it's what you're waiting for


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Re: GreenMachine allMod aftCyclone Vz Dave TangentMotor midd

Post by aCeMadMod » Nov 22, 2015 12:22 am

hi all . wow my frame got reinforce so hopeful not break so soon :shock:

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i have give the frame it frist coat of paint .. the coulor i don't real like . it Very good for stoping rust Not cheap , and it's all i had to use so i hopeful i able to use a cheap paint to change coulor , and Very good clear coat to hold it they

i do not want to rush this . it really need to dry well before i try press the mian tube bearing pipe in the frame it really not ez. got 6 new bears 2 more then the stock frame used to hold i hope it stop some the side move the rear swing amy around ./ :?:

i hope to test next weekend up my downhill track. any you know good software to show speed and gps . use a smart phone i don't own a go pro ,

let the fun start thank you all

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Re: GreenMachine allMod aftCycloneVz DaveRc TangentMotorMidd

Post by aCeMadMod » Nov 29, 2015 5:05 am

all my is painted done , but sill too soft too.. its due the weather it like 90% humid here.. not a ez to paint any thing. and i can't start my air compress at night. :( to wake up the whole street
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Re: GreenMachine allMod aftCycloneVz DaveRc TangentMotorMidd

Post by aCeMadMod » Nov 30, 2015 9:21 am

hi i try Not to Reply about cyclone aft or headline ego kits . chats they are so many much it same info but have to reply to missleading info .. that motor will Not last ... your fixs you are cheap. it will not really fix the motor water cooled stage 5 or fan cooled it get it stage 4 . and Do the job right you will not buy other kit. So many try to saveand have been cheapskates / it dose not work out .and i replace all my motors bearings with ceramic bearing only ones are really costly are 2 main big bearing one for 20mm shaft aft cyclone kit do not do this is Too costly .. and oil seals 2 lips is mod you have do you self you can't buy them , and aft Dose not Heat Treat Processes for sun Gears. last time i talk with them. i try to get to them to make better sun gears. they did not care. :cry:and only get stage 3

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thank you crazy rus tank driver alot real life power and mod the info . about heat :shock: mod for cyclone thank for all es for info. but my hat go off the rus crazy tank driver. for kill a few motors to find the limits. i sill add a few thing the rus dude did not do to his mods.

and Yes the Heat Treat sun Gears make huge help i pull apart my gearbox last nite, i was shock you not much wear after 2000km both sun gear have done about kms . new sun gear it has been heat treated and rideing up the world cup downhill tracks the magnet trap did it job it new oil and mix high moller additive
upgrade all the bike parts it last very long time.

your not able to do it your self buy http://www.tangentmotors.com the kit . it kick cyclone ass very well made and i own 7 cyclone motors kits . i not any thing to again i will add this info my page has well.thank you :)

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Re: GreenMachine allMod aftCycloneVz DaveRc TangentMotorMidd

Post by aCeMadMod » Feb 07, 2016 5:37 am

hi all i Away and then i hav Very sick for last few Weeeks the is all Done for test ride :D

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Re: GreenMachine allMod aftCycloneVz DaveRc TangentMotor 322

Post by macribs » Feb 07, 2016 2:38 pm

Get well, look forward to see your build.

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Re: GreenMachine allMod aftCycloneVz DaveRc TangentMotor 322

Post by Leebolectric » Feb 07, 2016 2:40 pm

Such a sick ride, I love Brooklyns so much!
2015 Intense Tracer275 with Tangent Ascent inside triangle https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewt ... 28&t=75045
2010 Turner 5Spot with BaffangHD https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewt ... 28&t=75569
2009 KHS Velvet 6" with BafangHD (see above thread^)
2015 SantaCruz Bantam with TEMPORARY Cyclone https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewt ... 28&t=76131

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