Thanks Woodland, I think the surly one is very nice. Do you know if it pushed the chain up towards the chain stay or down towards the ground. Many of these types of units are poorly designed in my opinion and push the chain towards the ground which I don't like.
Also thanks for your tips on effeciency and I agree with you. Glad to hear you have the super low gearing, I just dont like the bad chain line the mini to 42 will give so I am going with the mini to IGH and a 22 tooth but the 22 tooth gets reduced by 33% using first gear. I still wont be as low geared as you but maybe I will but a bigger tooth sproket on somehow down the road for the IGH
I am not sure if I fully explained my question a few posts ago, I realize it's not ideal to lug the motor but I am putting out there the question if you DO lower motor speed enough so you CAN add pedal assist (lets say its for a prolonged time and not just the odd slow down on the trail) is it a waste of time because the little pedal assist you are giving is wasted because of the motor being put into a too slow spin. If this IS the case, then pedal assist (except for the odd obstacle on the trail at super slow speeds) is just a waste of time as far as effeciency is concerned.
Sorry for the length and wordyness of my question but its been something that's been bugging me and I dont see anyone talking about this. Many talk about pedaling to help with range but with this motor it may be a waste of time? (except for starting out at a dead stop)
I would like to see some hard numbers on this so I will do a test this week sometime. Right now I have 6 stitches in my hand so riding is not so easy.