WOW, Eye, that's a lot to digest in one posting!
eyebyesickle wrote:this is where I post this, right?
Unless you want to create a new thread just for this aspect of the TSDZ2, yes, this is the right place.
And thanks for all the footwork and for sharing.
eyebyesickle wrote:Sometime ASAP someone will make a friendly 'overhead how to video' of how to open these up and do the upgrades real quick (xh 18 to throttle/brakes, add a headlight, and replace the gear)...
That someone will have to be you (or someone on your team) since none of us are clueful enough about it at present.
eyebyesickle wrote:I will share the programming software (80+MB .RAR) , and programming information (not very good from factory until I update), but use AT YOUR OWN RISK. The only reason to use it is to raise the RPM and POWER limit...
If you'd take notes as you use it yourself and then share that, that would be VERY helpful. Things like: what's the installation process like? How do you launch it? Once running, how does it know how to connect to the bike hardware? Etc.
eyebyesickle wrote:You will need to make your own programming cable.
I presume there are some kind of directions in the materials you've shared - haven't gotten that far yet!
eyebyesickle wrote:- NO CONTROLLER DIFFERENCE IN VLDC-5/XH-18 DISPLAY - this was why I was scared to mess with it first.
I suspected as much.
eyebyesickle wrote:the whole problem is retailers being stocked up with what they have, and wanting to sell that. That is what 'can't' translates to. It comes DOWN TO THE WIRING HARNESS, AND THE THROTTLE/BRAKE CONNECTOR. [...snip...] but until the market eats up the rest of the old units... you better BUY DIRECT! Of course, as with the BBS, they are adding light connectors too now...
I bought from the retailer whose link I just gave Norton and the only thing I'm missing (as far as I know) is a connector for the lamp. Any hints on how to get that out of this system would be great - and I have the 48V, 15A ("500W") unit with VLCD-5.
eyebyesickle wrote:- I recommend getting a unit with the VLDC-5 display.
Thanks for backing me up about that - I've been saying that for weeks now!
eyebyesickle wrote:These units [VLCD-5] come wired with 8 pins leading from the motor to the display, and then you connect the throttle and brakes directly to the display. Then, if you with to use an XH-18 display, just create a mini 'junction box' (or anything sort of split, really) to split off the lines for the throttle and brakes right before the display, since the XH-18 has no plugs for these accessories.
What? Run both the VLCD-5 AND the Xh-18 at the same time? If you have the VLCD-5, then you already have the place to plug your throttle and hand brake cut-outs. There's also an electrical connector that would be PERFECT to repurpose a connection to the Xh-18. (Take the VLCD-5 display off of the mounting it comes attached to - you push in on a small section of plastic. See the pictures and follow your nose.)
eyebyesickle wrote:they say next will be xh18 with throttle,brakes,headlight, and headlight for the vldc5 model too... but no confirmation on anyone stocking the 48v18a for retail, or what wattage they will label it at
I'm not holding my breath.
eyebyesickle wrote:THEY STILL NEED TO UPGRADE THEIR GEARS.
That's as yet both unproven and unlikely; a better solution might well be to add some smarts to the controller and simply not allow high amperage to the motor when the RPMs are low, and especially not zero or close to it.
eyebyesickle wrote:NO GOOD THROTTLE OR BRAKE OPTIONS (USE YOUR OWN)
We know they make them! I have one on order I got (will receive?) from Alibaba - still waiting on delivery!
eyebyesickle wrote:if you need use google or some image translating software. I might do it for you if I have time
That would be nice!