This has nothing to do with what Macrib was saying.WoodlandHills wrote: ↑Dec 24, 2017 11:22 amAre you serious? You really think that the problem with you riding your motorcycles on bicycle trails is that the people who built and maintain the trails are narrow minded? That its all their problem for not welcoming you with open arms?
Honestly, I have never seen such unaware people and such self-serving rationalizations in all my life: it is all about you and your desires isnt it and screw anyone else who comes along afterwards. As long as you can justify doing exactly what you want, the rights of others do not matter one bit. Such as those who are constantly struggling with land managers and others to keep access for MTBs open on multi-use trails. And what will happen when the hikers and horse riders get sick of seeing eMXers on their trails and get all bikes banned? Oh, that's right, you don't care and will just keep riding there anyway......
I can see that the point is to have your fun and not worry about what happens in the long run to anyone else who might want to legally ride an eMTB in the places where you have offended the rest of the users. Because it is someone else's fault for being narrow minded.........
Yes, I am serious, I talked with Zlatko Vidic, a designer from Zagreb, here is a bike he built. Actually the price for the design can be much smaller than some might think. Designer Zlatko Vidic prices, depending on frame complexity: 1# For design, calculations, and production ready drawings – min.1200 EUR. 2# jig drawings for 1000 EUR, for one kind of bike frame, swingarm. Welding could be done by several bike builders in several countries, they could share components, by buying together components they could have good prices. Production cost in China can be very small but they can use bad materials and there will be significant shipping costs. So production of such frames in Europe or USA can be competitive, I already bought frames from East Europe at a total cost smaller than China FOB price+shipping+EU custom clearing.
that train left the station long ago.
Could you please record trails with strava.com or something similar so that we can see trail details - range, speed, uphills, if you have any in Australia and so on, but most important for me is range versus speed. If you can record and publish here we can analyse.
So 69% of the big battery to make 13.4km Distance, 43:17 Moving Time, 372m Elevation, Avg Speed 18.6km/h Max Speed 56.9km/h.
Don't stoke a Luna flame war and derail the thread. If these rumored upgrades are true the bike would be much more appealing as a dirtbike alternative, especially for adolescents starting out.
LunaCycle is good @"marketing", taking credit for something offered by the factory, no contribution of Luna to this. The pedal kit is produced by China factory, they give me price for the kit, I asked for picture. Sooner or later full info on that item will be available. Adding pedals is one thing, using big chainwheels up to 50T is another thing, using a front derailleur is again another thing, engine working with PAS sensor or "cruise" button like Bultaco Brinco is again another thing..
Missed this earlier. I see you live in San Fernando Valley, I live in Nevada. The biggest issue for me about this bike not having pedals is I can't even ride it on jeep road and motorcycle trails or anything that is not on a closed course or private property legally. Up until a few years back, Nevada didn't have any title or registration requirements for OHV vehicles. Now we have to register EVERYTHING through the DMV . And to do that, the vehicle has to have VIN. There are procedures one can go through to get a state issued VIN assigned for a machine, but its PITA and incurs additional costs. If this bike had pedals on it, I could ride anywhere in the state that was offroad and not designated as a MTB, Horse, or Hiker trail and the BLM couldn't do shit about it because there is no power restrictions on pedal ebikes in off road situations where a motorcycles, atvs, and jeeps are allowed. And being that its an ebike that can be pedaled, there are no registration and title requirements. For these reasons, having pedals would be very beneficial to where this bike could be ridden legally in Nevada.WoodlandHills wrote: ↑Dec 22, 2017 3:47 pmI have no problems with this bike at all: if I lived on a ranch or had easy access to an OHV area, I would buy one. I DO have big problems with a pedal kit for an out and out MX bike electric or otherwise though........ Is there any other reason for pedals on this machine besides illegally riding where only Class 1 eMTBs are permitted?
Again the issue is not the motorcycle, it's the pedal kit.......
Interesting. So would this mean that when "pedal assisting" the rider would be assisting the motor to turn instead of assisting the rear wheel to help the motor when running?