Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

Post by aspencreek » Sep 20 2019 7:02pm

wuhaichao443 wrote:
Sep 19 2019 9:34pm
:bigthumb:
Take my money! Looks fantastic, hope it is launching soon. Any idea of specs - weight, seat height, horsepower, etc?

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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

Post by 3DTOPO » Sep 20 2019 7:05pm

aspencreek wrote:
Sep 20 2019 7:02pm
wuhaichao443 wrote:
Sep 19 2019 9:34pm
:bigthumb:
Take my money! Looks fantastic, hope it is launching soon. Any idea of specs - weight, seat height, horsepower, etc?
Some info here: https://evnerds.com/electric-vehicles/e ... supermoto/, and posted on this forum:
efMX Trials Electric Freeride wrote:
Aug 14 2019 9:27am
Sur-Ron Boom Bee :

"Sur-Ron Boom Bee, recently announced to traders , has received European license papers. And what's going to be Sur-Ron's big brother is an electric enduro engine we haven't seen before, and in principle, will debut at the Milan Motorcycle Show in autumn, where of course we'll be there and broadcast to you!.."

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https://www.elektrobiker.hu/hirek/titok ... r-ron-nal/

"Here is some possible specs for the Booom Bee

Peak Power:16.5KW (72V);21.5KW (96V)
Top Speed (sport mode):90km/h (72V);100km/h(96V)
Top Speed (turbo mode):100km/h(72V);110km/h(96V)
Acceleration(S):2.0(0-50KM)
Acceleration(S):3.3(0-70KM)
Acceleration(S):4.3(0-80KM)
RANGE:72V Version ≥125km(@50km/h)
BATTERY:72V/70Ah;96V48Ah
Tire Size (Road Legal Version):Fr.: 110/80-19;Rr.:140/70-17
Tire Size (MX Version):Fr.: 80/100-21;Rr.:100/90-18

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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

Post by aspencreek » Sep 20 2019 7:54pm

Thanks 3D. Looks like more detailed specs at this link: https://evnerds.com/electric-vehicles/e ... -revealed/

From the specs listed for the offroad version it appears that the weight will be about 259 lbs, seat height 36", top speed 68 mph, range about 60 miles.

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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

Post by 3DTOPO » Sep 20 2019 9:50pm

aspencreek wrote:
Sep 20 2019 7:54pm
Thanks 3D. Looks like more detailed specs at this link: https://evnerds.com/electric-vehicles/e ... -revealed/

From the specs listed for the offroad version it appears that the weight will be about 259 lbs, seat height 36", top speed 68 mph, range about 60 miles.
Nice link, thanks.

Bummer about the weight though. I was hoping it would weigh in closer to 200 lbs. At 259, that's well over twice as heavy as the current Bee.

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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

Post by SwampDonkey » Sep 20 2019 10:06pm

aspencreek wrote:
Sep 20 2019 7:54pm
Thanks 3D. Looks like more detailed specs at this link: https://evnerds.com/electric-vehicles/e ... -revealed/

From the specs listed for the offroad version it appears that the weight will be about 259 lbs, seat height 36", top speed 68 mph, range about 60 miles.
Oh my f*cking god lol. I gotta see one on the track! How much?

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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

Post by 3DTOPO » Sep 20 2019 10:33pm

SwampDonkey wrote:
Sep 20 2019 10:06pm
aspencreek wrote:
Sep 20 2019 7:54pm
Thanks 3D. Looks like more detailed specs at this link: https://evnerds.com/electric-vehicles/e ... -revealed/

From the specs listed for the offroad version it appears that the weight will be about 259 lbs, seat height 36", top speed 68 mph, range about 60 miles.
Oh my f*cking god lol. I gotta see one on the track! How much?
If I were to make a wild guess - I think it will cost about twice as much as the current Bee. That keeps it well below the KTM Freeridde and Zero. If it costs ~3x the current model, then that pretty much puts it at what a KTM / Zero costs.

Double cost would be kind of a sweet spot between the current model and the KTMs and Zeros; and far as I know nothing that would compete with it at that cost.

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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

Post by racingame » Sep 21 2019 11:57am

3DTOPO wrote:
Sep 20 2019 9:50pm
Nice link, thanks.

Bummer about the weight though. I was hoping it would weigh in closer to 200 lbs. At 259, that's well over twice as heavy as the current Bee.
I also believe it should have stayed just under 100kg.

Taking the Alta Motors Redshift EXR/MXR for comparison, it also has a weight around 120kg, but with 37kW of power instead of 22kW and with 5.8kWh of battery capacity instead of 4.6kWh. Since the Sur-Ron Storm Bee has both smaller motor and battery, it just seemed logical to me that it would also weigh less. But apparently they added extra weight on other parts of the motorcycle.

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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

Post by skyungjae » Sep 23 2019 8:39am

Well, I finally got banned from Luna's Sur Ron Owner's page. :lol:
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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

Post by mxs » Sep 23 2019 9:17am

Too porky, for anything serious off-road, especially considering the specs against Alta (just shows how Alta's drive-train was ahead of its time) ... the weight will not matter for a paved street legal stuff.

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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

Post by Merlin » Sep 23 2019 10:19am

skyungjae wrote:
Sep 23 2019 8:39am
Well, I finally got banned from Luna's Sur Ron Owner's page. :lol:
because you did what?....

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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

Post by skyungjae » Sep 23 2019 11:13am

Merlin wrote:
Sep 23 2019 10:19am
skyungjae wrote:
Sep 23 2019 8:39am
Well, I finally got banned from Luna's Sur Ron Owner's page. :lol:
because you did what?....
Probably because I helped ERT develop their ASI kit by lending my bike. I think my contributions to that page actually helped sell more bikes overall. The majority of my posts were informative, and I did my best to answer questions from prospective buyers as well as those seeking technical advice.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

Post by motomoto » Sep 24 2019 12:20am

Probably because I helped ERT develop their ASI kit by lending my bike. I think my contributions to that page actually helped sell more bikes overall. The majority of my posts were informative, and I did my best to answer questions from prospective buyers as well as those seeking technical advice.
Sounds like pure evil to me, how dare you be helpful.

I have been selling bikes for Luna Cycles for the last 2 years from people calling me at Sur-ron USA, and I'm just trash.

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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

Post by ebikeguy123 » Sep 24 2019 12:14pm

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Greta Thunberg edition

Hemp your ride!

Carbon fiber like hemp monocoque frame.. seat etc. Motor moved back the the pivot point to make more room for larger battery. High C 3kWh battery. ASI 8000 with different user modes available on a menu via Android phone used as display. Being designed by www.darrenmckeage.com

Darren was part of designing will.i.am Tesla roadster

35 min rapid charger. 180 Km range. 130 kph top speed. https://hubsink.com/products/sketchbrak ... 7997382536. M820 Saint brakes. Ceramic bearings. Castle lock nuts.

Shipping spring 2020

$6900 USD estimated retail. $250 refundable deposit to order.
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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

Post by Cheburator » Sep 25 2019 12:05am

ebikeguy123 wrote:
Sep 24 2019 12:14pm
3kW battery.
180 Km range.
Do you mean 3kWh? If yes, the stock Sur-Ron must have 120 km range, which it doesn`t :wink:

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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

Post by SCM » Sep 25 2019 4:04am

ebikeguy123 wrote:
Sep 24 2019 12:14pm
DOPE GTe XXX

Greta Thunberg edition

Hemp your ride!

Carbon fiber like hemp monocoque frame.. seat etc. Motor moved back the the pivot point to make more room for larger battery. High C 3kW battery. ASI 8000 with different user modes available on a menu via Android phone used as display. Being designed by www.darrenmckeage.com

Darren was part of designing will.i.am Tesla roadster

35 min rapid charger. 180 Km range. 130 kph top speed. https://hubsink.com/products/sketchbrak ... 7997382536. M820 Saint brakes. Ceramic bearings. Castle lock nuts.

Shipping spring 2020

$6900 USD estimated retail. $250 refundable deposit to order.

For real?! :shock: Looks like a monster, I want one!! :twisted: :D

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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

Post by fechter » Sep 25 2019 7:59am

Cheburator wrote:
Sep 25 2019 12:05am
ebikeguy123 wrote:
Sep 24 2019 12:14pm
3kW battery.
180 Km range.
Do you mean 3kWh? If yes, the stock Sur-Ron must have 120 km range, which it doesn`t :wink:
Maybe at 15kph bicycle speed.

I'm still trying to figure out if this is for real or a joke. Fiber-grass frame? Like the truck from "Up in Smoke"
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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

Post by racingame » Sep 25 2019 2:30pm

I guess somebody should start a new thread for the SUR-RON White Ghost as well now that's finally being released (even though under a different brand name): https://evnerds.com/electric-vehicles/e ... -4800-usd/

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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

Post by efMX Trials Electric Freeride » Sep 25 2019 6:04pm

already a thread about white ghost..

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=92050&start=25#p1499491

but if you need another then help yourself..
some ride & sk8 videos:
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http://www.youtube.com/natas666damien
i have nothing for sale.. :)

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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

Post by racingame » Sep 25 2019 8:32pm

efMX Trials Electric Freeride wrote:
Sep 25 2019 6:04pm
already a thread about white ghost..

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=92050&start=25#p1499491

but if you need another then help yourself..
Well, I definitely missed that thread with such long title, but even if I saw that, I would have never guessed its content by just reading it honestly. :confused:

Someone should rename it to something shorter and more clear imo.

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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

Post by efMX Trials Electric Freeride » Sep 25 2019 8:45pm

crazy titles seems often a theme here;).. next time maybe try searching?? "white ghost"
some ride & sk8 videos:
metacafe.com/channels/NATAS666DAMIEN
http://www.youtube.com/natas666damien
i have nothing for sale.. :)

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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

Post by ebikeguy123 » Sep 26 2019 5:00am

Cheburator wrote:
Sep 25 2019 12:05am
ebikeguy123 wrote:
Sep 24 2019 12:14pm
3kW battery.
180 Km range.
Do you mean 3kWh? If yes, the stock Sur-Ron must have 120 km range, which it doesn`t :wink:
Yes. And yes the range is for an average speed and changes based on a lot of factors.

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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

Post by ebikeguy123 » Sep 26 2019 5:07am

fechter wrote:
Sep 25 2019 7:59am
Cheburator wrote:
Sep 25 2019 12:05am
ebikeguy123 wrote:
Sep 24 2019 12:14pm
3kW battery.
180 Km range.
Do you mean 3kWh? If yes, the stock Sur-Ron must have 120 km range, which it doesn`t :wink:
Maybe at 15kph bicycle speed.

I'm still trying to figure out if this is for real or a joke. Fiber-grass frame? Like the truck from "Up in Smoke"

Yes... lol. It will come in Rastafarian colors. Bob Marley and Chech and Chongs kids will be our spokes persons.

The Hempire strikes back! May the Hemp Bee with you. The Hempocrocey is over.



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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

Post by ebikeguy123 » Sep 26 2019 5:13am

ebikeguy123 wrote:
Sep 26 2019 5:00am
Cheburator wrote:
Sep 25 2019 12:05am
ebikeguy123 wrote:
Sep 24 2019 12:14pm
3kW battery.
180 Km range.
Do you mean 3kWh? If yes, the stock Sur-Ron must have 120 km range, which it doesn`t :wink:
Yes. And yes the range is for an average speed and changes based on a lot of factors.

The pic is of a SUr Ron Axial Flux motor with a gear reduction drive that they sell to companies wanting to build using their driveline components.

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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

Post by ebikeguy123 » Sep 26 2019 5:14am

ebikeguy123 wrote:
Sep 26 2019 5:07am
fechter wrote:
Sep 25 2019 7:59am
Cheburator wrote:
Sep 25 2019 12:05am
ebikeguy123 wrote:
Sep 24 2019 12:14pm
3kW battery.
180 Km range.
Do you mean 3kWh? If yes, the stock Sur-Ron must have 120 km range, which it doesn`t :wink:
Maybe at 15kph bicycle speed.

I'm still trying to figure out if this is for real or a joke. Fiber-grass frame? Like the truck from "Up in Smoke"


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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

Post by ebikeguy123 » Sep 26 2019 5:27am

ebikeguy123 wrote:
Sep 26 2019 5:14am
ebikeguy123 wrote:
Sep 26 2019 5:07am
fechter wrote:
Sep 25 2019 7:59am
Cheburator wrote:
Sep 25 2019 12:05am

Do you mean 3kWh? If yes, the stock Sur-Ron must have 120 km range, which it doesn`t :wink:
Maybe at 15kph bicycle speed.

I'm still trying to figure out if this is for real or a joke. Fiber-grass frame? Like the truck from "Up in Smoke"


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