My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000

Post by tommie » Jan 29 2018 4:49pm

@ FREYebikes,

You`re doing a great job with the development of the AM1000 MTB, not all manufacturers take the time in listening to their customers the way you do - so well done!

However i feel you`re missing out on an enormous market here,

It`s the Hybrid and/or road ebike with your basic MTB specifications and Bafang motor options.

It shouldn`t be a big job in altering the present frame to go Hardtail with front suspension and have 29er and 27.5 options?

Have you not considered this??

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000

Post by broke » Jan 29 2018 5:10pm

I think your wrong. You can make a mountain bike a hybrid and use it on road but you can't turn a road hybrid into a real mountain bike. With this motor the extra weight does not matter for road use. I think the travel should be more like 180 I work at a ebike store and get to ride almost everything. I just rode the new specialized kenevo on our local down hill trail that bike feels great if it had a throttle I would by one.

I do agree with a 27+ tire
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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000

Post by sgillf » Jan 29 2018 6:08pm

While the weight doesn't matter, the lack of a rack does for a commuter or a tourer.

If you can get a rack on the mountain bike, then I think all bases are covered!
broke wrote:
Jan 29 2018 5:10pm
I think your wrong. You can make a mountain bike a hybrid and use it on road but you can't turn a road hybrid into a real mountain bike. With this motor the extra weight does not matter for road use. I think the travel should be more like 180 I work at a ebike store and get to ride almost everything. I just rode the new specialized kenevo on our local down hill trail that bike feels great if it had a throttle I would by one.

I do agree with a 27+ tire

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000

Post by broke » Jan 29 2018 6:29pm

here you go this is just one.
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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000

Post by Drop Dead Fred » Jan 29 2018 8:07pm

Keithonline wrote:
Jan 26 2018 6:17am
I have ordered a AM1000 sample to try out. I work with a bike shop that sells Haibikes, and that’s what I ride. I’m getting it shipped to NY port. We’re really excited to see a high power factory-built e-bike. We’re hoping for great quality and finish like the Haibike, and the Frey components are very good. We’re upgrading the sample to a Lyrik fork and also the SRAM EX1 group. On paper this is one of the best spec’d bike to be found. Also, I have to say I’ve dealt with Chinese suppliers in the past, and Ivy, at Frey is by far the single best representative I have ever dealt with. Better than US reps too. Frey’s up front service and comments here has convinced me that they are the manufacturer I want to try out. Hopefully after-sales issues will be small and Frey will be just as helpful as they’ve been with the pre-order service.

Here is a couple of the color schemes Ivy sent. We’re not settled yet on the final choice but I’d like to share with you guys to get some thoughts:
I like the yellow! (Might just be the black lettering in the top tube.)

Will see if either of the others grows on me before my shipment.

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000

Post by FREYebikes » Jan 31 2018 2:51am

Some photos of bike with colors for you have a look, this is a sample for us to try some design and different color.
How do you think about it?
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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000

Post by nataS@phnet.fi » Jan 31 2018 8:15am

Looks really nice!
I like mine mattblack but that´s just my desperate try to blend in with other bikes and hope nobody wants to steal mine :lol:

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000

Post by Buk___ » Jan 31 2018 8:22am

nataS@phnet.fi wrote:
Jan 31 2018 8:15am
Looks really nice!
I like mine mattblack but that´s just my desperate try to blend in with other bikes and hope nobody wants to steal mine :lol:
One of the best things I had happen recently was riding slowly past a bunch of young teens and I heard one of them say to his mate.

"Cool bike. NOT!"

Made me smile despite that I was wet through from having got caught in the rain.

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000

Post by Johne-bike » Jan 31 2018 8:26am

Ivy, I like the Black Frame with Green detailing very much. Personally I would prefer to see the "Frey" script in the same green colour, rather than introduce a third, Orange colour into the scheme.
I would still love to see the new Fatbike version in Black Frame with Red detailing, Red Anodised Triangle Cutout rims, and Red Anodised Stem spacers and Bar ends. The beauty of using Black and Red as a colour scheme is that not only does the standard bike look really smart, but you can also source a mass of accessories in Black and Red colour schemes. For instance, Roswheel offer all manner of bike bags in this colour scheme, as do many other manufactures.
If you don't eventually offer the black and red on the AM 1000 Fatbike, I would choose the Black and Green as my second choice!
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My favourite Black and Red Fatbike colour scheme!

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000

Post by FREYebikes » Feb 01 2018 2:02am

FAT AM1000 come out!
Recently we are having snow.
We take some photos and have a test ride outside. It is very stable and comfortable to ride it.
The color is a kind of grey, I think it looks good!
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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000

Post by FREYebikes » Feb 01 2018 2:03am

The color a kind of metal grey, I think it looks good!

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000

Post by hoojsn » Feb 01 2018 2:10am

FREYebikes wrote:
Feb 01 2018 2:02am
FAT AM1000 come out!
Recently we are having snow.
We take some photos and have a test ride outside. It is very stable and comfortable to ride it.

Any video on the ride?

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000

Post by FREYebikes » Feb 01 2018 2:14am

Sorry, No video now.
hoojsn wrote:
Feb 01 2018 2:10am
FREYebikes wrote:
Feb 01 2018 2:02am
FAT AM1000 come out!
Recently we are having snow.
We take some photos and have a test ride outside. It is very stable and comfortable to ride it.

Any video on the ride?

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000

Post by Johne-bike » Feb 01 2018 2:48am

The AM 1000 Fatbike looks great, and I am looking forward to seeing the standard production specifications, pricing, and all the Factory Options, Sizes, and Colour Schemes that you plan to make available!
Then all we need is a Luna style of "Ludicrous" hot rod controller upgrade as an option, so we can pull 50 amps and 2,500w when required! :lol:

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000

Post by Keithonline » Feb 01 2018 5:45am

That gun-metal gray looks great!

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000

Post by Keithonline » Feb 01 2018 5:46am

Does that fat bike use the same battery as the AM1000? What size is shown?

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000

Post by fechter » Feb 01 2018 9:20am

It looks like there's room for more battery. How about an optional triangle long range pack?
"One test is worth a thousand opinions"

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000

Post by nataS@phnet.fi » Feb 02 2018 1:43pm

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Anybody know where can i found this connector? I have tried about everything with no luck, was pretty sure its some sort of mini XLR but looks like its not.

If somebody don´t know its the chargers connector to AM1000 battery, sorry.


edit. So i still don´t know how to share my photos succesfully, damnit.
edit2. Sorry for the pic size.. :oops:

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000

Post by hoojsn » Feb 02 2018 3:01pm

nataS@phnet.fi wrote:
Feb 02 2018 1:43pm
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Anybody know where can i found this connector? I have tried about everything with no luck, was pretty sure its some sort of mini XLR but looks like its not.

If somebody don´t know its the chargers connector to AM1000 battery, sorry.


edit. So i still don´t know how to share my photos succesfully, damnit.
edit2. Sorry for the pic size.. :oops:
This one is XLR 3Pin 1+2-
You can check on the Power charger from Aliexpress.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/48V-4A- ... autifyAB=4

As I bought an additional charger from them.

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000

Post by fechter » Feb 02 2018 7:51pm

nataS@phnet.fi wrote:
Feb 02 2018 1:43pm

Anybody know where can i found this connector? I have tried about everything with no luck, was pretty sure its some sort of mini XLR but looks like its not.

If somebody don´t know its the chargers connector to AM1000 battery, sorry.
That looks like a Higo connector. Pretty small for a charger connection. I have only seen them on the ends of cables, so you might need to buy an extension cable and cut off one end.
"One test is worth a thousand opinions"

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000

Post by DaninSpain » Feb 04 2018 11:37am

Hi.

I notice that most of the people commenting and advising on this thread seem to be experienced and knowledgable with regard to off-road riding, the equipment and various components that go into making these capable machines. But, much of the terminology used has flown over my head, and I have found that some of the basic stuff, which is interesting for a novice, but probably boring for the experts doesn't really get covered.

Having just ordered a AM1000 I would like to offer the thread a different perspective. The perspective of a complete novice :)

I'm 54 years old, in good(ish) shape, and I love technology (not a techy though). I'm British but live in Southern Spain where cycling seems to be the national sport/pastime due to the amazing climate and stunning beauty.

e-MTB's have become really popular here, and I imagine in the rest of Europe as well, but they are still very over-priced, and limited to 15mph

I have been researching e-MTB's for a few months now and I came very close to ordering the same bike as my friend - a Specialized Turbo Levo which cost 8500€ ($9k), but a) I cannot afford it, and b) the power is limited to 15mph, it has no throttle and I just couldn't see 8500€ when I rode it. Remember, I'm a novice, a blunt instrument, so the super-duper quality components would be wasted on me (for now)

Anyway, 3 days ago thanks to the videos of Robocam (grateful), I found the Frey AM1000, and yesterday I pressed the button and placed my order with Ivy. I did it so soon partly because she told me that the factory will close for 3 weeks after this week and I didn't want to wait.

So, once my bike arrives I'm going to write a review and try to offer advise to others from the perspective of someone like myself ie a complete novice to Mountain Biking.

Ivy told me that I am the first to order from Spain. So I will report on my experience about ordering an e-bike directly from China to Europe, including any other costs involved. The quality of communication (during and after) and any hurdles that I come across.

I have to admit, the feeling of vulnerability is palpable. To press a button and send nearly 4000€ to somewhere other than Amazon (or anywhere else for that matter) is really scary. I've never done it before. However, I have to say it really does help to read, and hopefully be a future contributor to this thread. For example, as a result of reading others contributions, I have decided to change the front shocks to Lyrik. I've no idea what the difference is, but enough people with seemingly heaps of experience seem to think it's a worthwhile upgrade. Who am I to argue.

Well I haven't really got anything else to say at the moment. Writing this introduction has reminded me that I've just blown 4 grand...and I need to go lie down for a bit. Actually, in reality the bike has cost 8000€ because my wife has told me that she thinks it's only fair that she can go blow 4k as well :( - Any advise on that one?

If anyone wants to ask any non-technical questions about my experience and findings as things progress I will try to answer as honestly and promptly as possible.

Cheers for now

Dan
The best things in life are not things :)

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000

Post by hoojsn » Feb 04 2018 11:55am

DaninSpain wrote:
Feb 04 2018 11:37am
Hi.

I notice that most of the people commenting and advising on this thread seem to be experienced and knowledgable with regard to off-road riding, the equipment and various components that go into making these capable machines. But, much of the terminology used has flown over my head, and I have found that some of the basic stuff, which is interesting for a novice, but probably boring for the experts doesn't really get covered.

Having just ordered a AM1000 I would like to offer the thread a different perspective. The perspective of a complete novice :)

I'm 54 years old, in good(ish) shape, and I love technology (not a techy though). I'm British but live in Southern Spain where cycling seems to be the national sport/pastime due to the amazing climate and stunning beauty.

e-MTB's have become really popular here, and I imagine in the rest of Europe as well, but they are still very over-priced, and limited to 15mph

I have been researching e-MTB's for a few months now and I came very close to ordering the same bike as my friend - a Specialized Turbo Levo which cost 8500€ ($9k), but a) I cannot afford it, and b) the power is limited to 15mph, it has no throttle and I just couldn't see 8500€ when I rode it. Remember, I'm a novice, a blunt instrument, so the super-duper quality components would be wasted on me (for now)

Anyway, 3 days ago thanks to the videos of Robocam (grateful), I found the Frey AM1000, and yesterday I pressed the button and placed my order with Ivy. I did it so soon partly because she told me that the factory will close for 3 weeks after this week and I didn't want to wait.

So, once my bike arrives I'm going to write a review and try to offer advise to others from the perspective of someone like myself ie a complete novice to Mountain Biking.

Ivy told me that I am the first to order from Spain. So I will report on my experience about ordering an e-bike directly from China to Europe, including any other costs involved. The quality of communication (during and after) and any hurdles that I come across.

I have to admit, the feeling of vulnerability is palpable. To press a button and send nearly 4000€ to somewhere other than Amazon (or anywhere else for that matter) is really scary. I've never done it before. However, I have to say it really does help to read, and hopefully be a future contributor to this thread. For example, as a result of reading others contributions, I have decided to change the front shocks to Lyrik. I've no idea what the difference is, but enough people with seemingly heaps of experience seem to think it's a worthwhile upgrade. Who am I to argue.

Well I haven't really got anything else to say at the moment. Writing this introduction has reminded me that I've just blown 4 grand...and I need to go lie down for a bit. Actually, in reality the bike has cost 8000€ because my wife has told me that she thinks it's only fair that she can go blow 4k as well :( - Any advise on that one?

If anyone wants to ask any non-technical questions about my experience and findings as things progress I will try to answer as honestly and promptly as possible.

Cheers for now

Dan
Dan, does Spain has limitation of 250watts and 25Km/hr as in most of the Country in Europe? AM1000 is pretty cool however the Ultra Motor is pretty obvious at a glance. You might want to buy your wife a bike from Frey later with M600 motor with 500 Watts. The good thing is, that motor will be more stealth looking on the bike.

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000

Post by Velophil » Feb 04 2018 12:40pm

Hello. I'm in France and interested by this AM1000...but i prefer waiting for the new M600 motor,probably enough for me.
I Hope that Frey will propose the same bike with this new motor and a 48v 21ah battery...

Excuse me for my Bad english..😣

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000

Post by leelorr » Feb 04 2018 12:50pm

I hesitated to post this, but I think since Frey is following this thread, they should have this feedback.

I have been using EndLess-Sphere for quite a while, and have built a few Ebikes, and sold a couple to friends.
A friend just asked me which bike he should buy now for his first Ebike and I suggested the Frey AM1000 (the subject of this thread). He contacted Ivy at Frey and received a quote for the bike and shipping. He then sent another message (the same day) that he was ready to purchase and asked for the additional price of a second battery, Lyrik front shock upgrade and a couple of additional derailleur hangers so that he could place the order. He has never heard back, even after repeated attempts for over a week. This understandably made him nervous, and has now decided to buy a different bike from a dealer in the U.S. I am actually watching closely the thread about the new bike you are designing with the upcoming Bafang M600, and hope that you will take this post as constructive feedback to a company that I hope does well in this market.

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000

Post by Cruncher123 » Feb 04 2018 12:56pm

DaninSpain wrote:
Feb 04 2018 11:37am
Hi.

I notice that most of the people commenting and advising on this thread seem to be experienced and knowledgable with regard to off-road riding, the equipment and various components that go into making these capable machines. But, much of the terminology used has flown over my head, and I have found that some of the basic stuff, which is interesting for a novice, but probably boring for the experts doesn't really get covered.

Having just ordered a AM1000 I would like to offer the thread a different perspective. The perspective of a complete novice :)

I'm 54 years old, in good(ish) shape, and I love technology (not a techy though). I'm British but live in Southern Spain where cycling seems to be the national sport/pastime due to the amazing climate and stunning beauty.

e-MTB's have become really popular here, and I imagine in the rest of Europe as well, but they are still very over-priced, and limited to 15mph

I have been researching e-MTB's for a few months now and I came very close to ordering the same bike as my friend - a Specialized Turbo Levo which cost 8500€ ($9k), but a) I cannot afford it, and b) the power is limited to 15mph, it has no throttle and I just couldn't see 8500€ when I rode it. Remember, I'm a novice, a blunt instrument, so the super-duper quality components would be wasted on me (for now)

Anyway, 3 days ago thanks to the videos of Robocam (grateful), I found the Frey AM1000, and yesterday I pressed the button and placed my order with Ivy. I did it so soon partly because she told me that the factory will close for 3 weeks after this week and I didn't want to wait.

So, once my bike arrives I'm going to write a review and try to offer advise to others from the perspective of someone like myself ie a complete novice to Mountain Biking.

Ivy told me that I am the first to order from Spain. So I will report on my experience about ordering an e-bike directly from China to Europe, including any other costs involved. The quality of communication (during and after) and any hurdles that I come across.

I have to admit, the feeling of vulnerability is palpable. To press a button and send nearly 4000€ to somewhere other than Amazon (or anywhere else for that matter) is really scary. I've never done it before. However, I have to say it really does help to read, and hopefully be a future contributor to this thread. For example, as a result of reading others contributions, I have decided to change the front shocks to Lyrik. I've no idea what the difference is, but enough people with seemingly heaps of experience seem to think it's a worthwhile upgrade. Who am I to argue.

Well I haven't really got anything else to say at the moment. Writing this introduction has reminded me that I've just blown 4 grand...and I need to go lie down for a bit. Actually, in reality the bike has cost 8000€ because my wife has told me that she thinks it's only fair that she can go blow 4k as well :( - Any advise on that one?

If anyone wants to ask any non-technical questions about my experience and findings as things progress I will try to answer as honestly and promptly as possible.

Cheers for now

Dan
Dan, I'd be interested in your thoughts. I'm similar age/ebike novice and bought the Biktrix Ultra FS rather than the Frey. Both bikes have the new Ultra motor and full suspension. Mine won't ship until end of the month (likely means mid March delivery). Like you, the thought of paying 2x for name brand with an underpowered motor seemed a ludicrous idea. Alibaba was a big deterrent in my decision in going with Biktrix (although I liked Biktrix components and larger optional 48v 20a battery better).

Love to see some video when you get your bike. Very few vids/reviews of Ultra motors so far.

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