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Post by brake034 » Sep 28 2019 9:31pm

Grace contacted me on WeChat, the bike and battery are in Guangzhou now and will leave China tomorrow.
Arrival in Thailand is in 10-15 days, via special line so duty free :D
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Post by entropic » Sep 30 2019 7:52pm

brake034 wrote:
Sep 25 2019 1:37am
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That is a fantastic color!

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Post by brake034 » Oct 01 2019 7:09am

@entropic thanks, it was a color option that Grace showed me in some sample pictures.

Here is the box, reinforced with a wooden crate for additional protection.
It was shipped out of Shenzhen yesterday, note the gentleman in the background sporting a "Beijing bikini" :D
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Post by brake034 » Oct 13 2019 3:50am

The Frey HT arrived today, but the battery not yet.
It was very well packed, keeping the box if I have to ship it again :D

Quick assembly today, next week to busy...
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Re: The Frey HT1000 - And yes, HT stands for Hardtail! *updated*

Post by eggbert » Oct 26 2019 8:57am

The first posts in this thread are now over a year old, so if there are any early adopters still out there, how how has that year treated your bike?
Are there any major or minor gripes that you have or had the bike surpassed your every expectation? How much have you had to spend on the upkeep of your bike. Any upgrades you wished you had thought of when you bought it?
I'm seriously considering buying one, but it would cost over 3.5 times the amount this old man has every spent on a bike.

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Post by shap08 » Oct 30 2019 11:11pm

Here is my unboxing

Video: https://youtu.be/2-EykSwlUTs

Pics: https://imgur.com/a/7Y9DVJC

Website: http://www.frey.bike/HardTails-electric ... HT1000.htm

Specs: 2019 HT1000 L size matt blak

Motor: Bafang Ultra G510.1000 48V 1000W mid motor system.

Battery: 52V 17.5ah Samsung battery

Front fork:GTMRK 120mm air suspension front fork;

Handlebar & Stem: Promax brand alloy mountain style.

Seat post: Promax brand alloy.

Saddle: SR sport comfortable saddle;

Brakes: TEKTRO HD E725 4-piston Hydraulic disc brakes Transmission:

Shimano DEORE M6000 10 speed gears.

Tire: schwalbe super Moto x 27.5*2.8

Pedal: Wellgo alloy mountain style pedals.

Add front/rear fenders, rear rack and front/rear light, one frey hiking bag as gift.

First time building a bike, got the seat the wrong way around!

Unfortunately Frey shipped me a US battery charger which fried when i plugged it in. They are express shipping me AU one.

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Post by entropic » Nov 17 2019 8:37pm

eggbert wrote:
Oct 26 2019 8:57am
The first posts in this thread are now over a year old, so if there are any early adopters still out there, how how has that year treated your bike?
Are there any major or minor gripes that you have or had the bike surpassed your every expectation? How much have you had to spend on the upkeep of your bike. Any upgrades you wished you had thought of when you bought it?
I'm seriously considering buying one, but it would cost over 3.5 times the amount this old man has every spent on a bike.
No major gripes on mine, but I haven't ridden it as much as I'd like due to illness and other obligations.

This is our nice time of year to ride and am looking forward to getting back on it. Just ordered a Jones bar. 8)

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Post by guel135 » Dec 05 2019 3:51am

Hi! I am a newbie in the forum and I getting this bike soon. I am from Spain but nowadays I live in South Germany Heidelberg.

It is already in the shipping process and I hope I can get my bike the first days of the new year.
I will use it for commute every day 100kms (I order 2 chargers for charge also in my job) and I am getting the 2,4 supermoto x tire for fast riding. I am quite fit with the road bike and I do this 52kms usually in 2h and it is not only tarmacked it is also a forest with good pavement and some gravel. I hope with this bike I can do in around 1h 15 min with that is enough. If not I will use my car (also in rainy and cold days)

I have some questions:
- How much is the range for commuting? In what conditions?
- I want to buy the 48t, do I need to look for a special one? what bolts sizing is?

Regards,
Miguel

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Post by shap08 » Dec 05 2019 6:16pm

guel135 wrote:
Dec 05 2019 3:51am
Hi! I am a newbie in the forum and I getting this bike soon. I am from Spain but nowadays I live in South Germany Heidelberg.

It is already in the shipping process and I hope I can get my bike the first days of the new year.
I will use it for commute every day 100kms (I order 2 chargers for charge also in my job) and I am getting the 2,4 supermoto x tire for fast riding. I am quite fit with the road bike and I do this 52kms usually in 2h and it is not only tarmacked it is also a forest with good pavement and some gravel. I hope with this bike I can do in around 1h 15 min with that is enough. If not I will use my car (also in rainy and cold days)

I have some questions:
- How much is the range for commuting? In what conditions?
- I want to buy the 48t, do I need to look for a special one? what bolts sizing is?

Regards,
Miguel
I bought this 48T chainring and it fits perfect https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3297607 ... 4c4dFsUKKw

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Post by brake034 » Dec 05 2019 8:35pm

Hello Miguel, welcome to the (small) club of Frey HT owners. Did you get the 27.5" version?

It's quite a distance you do every day. Look forward to hear your experiences and please share some pictures. :thumb:
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Post by guel135 » Dec 07 2019 4:06am

Yes, I got the 27,5 but with "Normal" 2.4 supermoto x tires. With the Magura brakes upgrade and the recon shox. If not the break will be only 180 and I weight around 95kg and I need big brakes :)

Yes, it is going to be challenging drive 105kms a day even with the ebike. But I plan to do it not all the days.
I will also see how the battery works around 0 degrees. I did some commuting last year at -5 degrees but It was only 20kms to my previous job and I hope I dont need to ride 25kgs bike the last 15kms only with my legs.

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Post by clem » Dec 07 2019 5:54am

Hi i'm Clem from France, 34yrs
I will probably buy the HT1000 too
I never found the information, how fast this bike is going (for a commuter use like our friend guel135)
On a flat road with no wind, how much is he able?
It's a powerfull 1000w but heavy frame, i hope he can reach 55- 60km/h like the bbs02...
In a classic 48V 21Ah config

(I saw frey blocks it to 50km/h..)

In my place only boring flat roads...
Thx

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Post by guel135 » Dec 08 2019 12:48pm

Hi Clem, I will let you know when I have the bike. I will commute near to France (Karlsruhe) let me know if you want to try the bike.

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Post by clem » Dec 09 2019 2:27pm

Hi Guel135 thanks a lot, with pleisure. I'm not so far from Strasbourg and Karlsruhe that would be nice to see this frey ht1000 through you.
I tried some models of kits to make e-bikes and also new e-bikes since my first one was stolen. This powerful model seems to be very interesting, the best is to talk about it with his owner.
You must be impatient to receive it, let me know your feeedback when you get it :thumb:

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Post by guel135 » Dec 09 2019 3:12pm

Yes... counting the days and also thinking is going to come just in Christmas than I go to Spain and probably I would receive the packet but I cannot mount it :(

Really I don't live in Karlsruhe, I live in Heidelberg and I will try to commute ther. And of course, I will be happy to show you the bike and I will let you when the bike is here.

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Post by robwalley1963 » Dec 11 2019 5:14am

I'm up to 55miles and still some charge left, I estimate 70 mile range. If you can stretch the battery with some of your own fitness, then it will last 4 years rather than 2 (if you charge twice a day).

You're commute looks very flat, so it might be worth you programming your controller to get the most efficient assist level for your commute to squeeze every drop from the battery in an attempt to do it in one charge. Also if you keep an eye on your watts level and keep it below 400 at 50kph then you should make it both ways.

I think someone else mentioned front sprocket, I have swapped to a 48t (max fit before hitting the chainstay), you will be spinning fast with the standard 42t at 50kph (do the math - 95 cadence with a 42t, 84 with a 48t)

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Post by guel135 » Dec 13 2019 4:42am

Thanks for the info about the range, if it like you said it will be nice to have a charge something like 30% to 90% 2x time per commute and the battery will be healthy some much time. Probably one of the first things, when I get the bike, will be putting a 48t chainring. About putting some watts over the ebike I am so used to do 70/100kms with a road bike with 26kpmh average (15mph) that I would feel bad not to try to push myself even in an ebike. I think also the supermotox 2.4 (they also offer me 2.8) will increase a little bit the range.

About my commute is quite awesome, even thinking that I live so near to small mountains but the way to work is super flat, bike lanes, very very small roads (not even with lines draw) and path through the forest. All in a straight line. (Attached a picture)

But I don't plan to go every day, at least in the winter and also when the weather is bad/feel lazy I work from home office many days. I also really love my car and driving in the Autobahn with no speed limit but I like even more biking.

I have even some colleagues saying that I will not do more than 10 times per year but I am kind of stubborn.
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Post by formula101 » Dec 24 2019 8:44pm

I think this bike would be a superior city/commute bike compared to the AM1000 which is a superior trail bike.

What is the standover height on the medium? Can anyone measure? I assume it's similar to the AM1000 but just wanted to check.

I would love to test or demo the AM or HT1000. Is Frey going to have demo bikes available at the Sea Otter Classic? I may make a trip for a day or two just to test ride these bikes!

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Post by formula101 » Dec 24 2019 8:52pm

As a general question about the bafang ultra, how much effort subjectively speaking is required to maintain the top speed of 37+ mph? This is assuming stock wheel sizes + 46 to 50 tooth chainring?

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Post by brake034 » Dec 25 2019 7:29am

formula101 wrote:
Dec 24 2019 8:44pm
Is Frey going to have demo bikes available at the Sea Otter Classic?
Yes Frey plans to have all current production models available for testing at the Sea Otter event, see you there!
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Post by brake034 » Dec 28 2019 9:09pm

I have been doing a couple of test rides with the HT and it's a great bike in the standard setup.

It's easy to do about 35km/h on pedal support and that's fast enough on Thai roads as it's dangerous on the roads here! I didn't try max speed PAS yet.

Throttle full speed on the 29er HT in full stock configuration is 56 km/h so far.
I did try the Eggrider system but didn't get better results, I will need to study that system further to see if it has a benefit for me.
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Post by Sinbord1981 » Dec 29 2019 8:56am

formula101 wrote:
Dec 24 2019 8:52pm
As a general question about the bafang ultra, how much effort subjectively speaking is required to maintain the top speed of 37+ mph? This is assuming stock wheel sizes + 46 to 50 tooth chainring?
On my AM1000 v5.0 with a 46T chainring fitted, to maintain 35mph on the flat I’d say the m putting in about 160-180 watts myself. Based on my ftp I could probably maintain that for about an hour and a half. That is, it is a fair amount of effort up above 35mph. I used to time trial at my local club TT10’s and TT25’s and I still cycle a lot with my club (non e-assisted) so I’ve got a good feeling on effort levels cycling, based on watts, pedal cadence, heart rate etc. I hope that helps!

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Post by Tom » Dec 31 2019 4:19pm

What is the weight of the HT1000? I assume it is similar to the Flx Blade which claims 48 lb without battery but not sure how much they are fibbing.

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Post by mikespub » Jan 01 2020 11:51am

Richard N wrote:
Jun 25 2019 3:01pm
stew wrote:
Jun 25 2019 10:36am
-Hi Richard
-Cam from Duncan
-did Fedex drop in Victoria -extra cost ?
-I am interested in the Med frame-30"inseam -sounds right
-did you get a bigger chain ring 46-48 ?
-any other info appreciated
-Cam@jamelot2@gmail.com
----Thanks Cam
Hello Cam

It will arrive in Richmond, from there FedEx will contact you to resolve the Customs charges. I did have the bike delivered to Victoria but it did not come through FedEx if was with a 3rd party and I did not pay extra.

I'm 30" as well and went with the medium frame and am happy with it.

I did not change the chainring, and so far, I have no plans to do so.
I am interested in an HT1000, primarily for transportation, just getting around. I occasionally ride on trails, but not technically challenging trails... the kind of trails that people walk on with kids. I need to decide on frame size. My inseam is about 30-31in (about 76cm, or 32in / 81cm with shoes on) and I am about 6'1" (185cm) tall. Grace recommended the XL frame, based on my height. I think I should prioritize standover height, I am leaning toward the Large Frame size. Does anybody have an HT1000 with the large frame size? How tall are you, and do you know your inseam?

Sinbord1981 (Simon from https://www.facebook.com/AdrenalineEbikes in the UK) and I exchanged a few PMs, he thought a large frame would work for me, I suspect he is right (Thanks again for your advice Simon!). Does anybody else have any sage advice? Many thanks!

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Post by guel135 » Jan 01 2020 2:39pm

I hope next week I can get mine and my height is 1,84m. Usually, I ride always in my bikes Size L (Cannondale, Mondraker) and in road bike 56cm. I hope I was right because I didt though about getting XL size.

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