Tommm said:
MadRhino said:
Tommm said:
Mount as low as possible. Center of gravity is king.
The slower you ride, the lower you want the center of gravity. The opposite is also true. Look at motorcycle types: a GP racer has the weight high, while a Trial has it low. I could explain why, but I guess you can find by yourself, now that you have a clue.
Even if that was true, which would completely defy physics, ...
OK. I see that you have your mind set and won’t search for the truth?
Lever physics is simple enough?
Riding slow, or even standing still, there is an advantage to stand upright and to have a large lever effect on the bike’s weight. Low COG is exactly that. That is because you then need to move the top of the bike a lot to transfer a given amount of weight. This large range of movement is giving precision over the amount of weight transfered, and a delay that is helping the rider avoiding over-correction when moving the weight in order to maintain balance at low speed or standing still.
When riding and maneuvering fast, there is an advantage to transfer weight with minimal movement and to adopt a tucked position. You want the shortest delay, thus the least lever effect on the bike’s weight. High COG is exactly that. Racing a GP bike, you first steer a bit left to turn right, to help initiating the weight transfer of a bike on which you have almost no lever effect. We do it naturally too at lower speed on light weight bikes but it is then a counterintuitive reflex.
Now about bike types. A big highway cruiser has low COG for the reasons that:
-It is heavy, thus would be hard to maneuver at low speed or stopped.
-It doesn’t need to have reactive handling. Quite the opposite, it has an advantage to have a delay because of the lazy riding position.
MX racers have a huge and high gas tank, for a short race after all, and one that requires light weight. Why is that? We want to be able to tune the height of the COG, with the amount of gas in the tank. That is because some tracks are faster with lower jumps and the advantage of high COG is more important than the advantage of lighter weight in high speed aggressive maneuvering.
On the opposite, Trials have a very small gas tank that is very low. All the bike is designed for the lowest COG, because you need a lot of lever effect to place the bike with precision, in a sport that is practiced at very low speed and penalizes every touch of a foot to the ground.