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Morning all (or whatever it is where you are),
I had a good scare last night that provided a stark reminder of why we treat LiPO (and all batteries really, but particularly LiPO) with the respect and care we do. Most who read here regularly are generally well aware of the dangers and how to mitigate them, but not everyone, and a reminder never hurts anyway.
I charge my LiPO outside on a cement surface and at least 18" away from anything flammable, but I have sometimes slacked a bit on how close it is to any flammable objects. Don't be me, don't slack on safety.
Last evening I went outside and hooked up a pair of 4s parralell LiPO for a quick bulk charge and came back inside. That was making a mistake before I even started. It was late, I was tired and distracted, and there was no good reason it needed charging right then. Don't charge before bed or when you're just not paying attention. Well, I proceeded to forget I put those on the charger, until about an hour or so later when my gf and I hear these popping noises. I immediately knew what it was and ran outside, hoping I wouldn't find everything already in flames. Luckily it wasn't quite there yet. The two packs were puffed out to balloons, split open, and smoking. Ohshityouidiot.gif
I had left these packs far too close to flammable objects including a large outdoor carpet, my bike itself, and some assorted bike stuff. Those objects in turn could have easily spread the fire to the house itself eventually if left unattended. I quickly unplugged the packs from the charger, grabbed them by their wiring harness, and tossed them far into the gravel driveway where they could do no harm. This was actually not very smart and I could have hurt myself because about a minute later one of those packs exploded in flames, and I do mean exploded! If I had been holding that when it went up I'd probably have been blinded! I did need to get rid of it ASAP but I should have taken a second to protect myself first. Again, don't be me.
It was quite the show, and my gf was shocked at how much energy a relatively small battery can hold. After the pyrotechnics settled down I buried both packs in gravel to let thermal runaway do its thing and safely expend all their energy into the rocks.
I realized what had gone wrong fairly quickly, it was my fault and a stupid mistake. I had not changed my charger settings and it was attempting to charge my 4s LiPO to 20.75v (5s @ 4.15v/cell). The charger just kept dumping energy into these poor things well past their capacity to hold that energy, and boom was the inevitable result.
Kind of scary. If I hadn't been right there to hear those initial pops as the first few puffed cells popped there is a very high chance I'd have come out to a full blown fire by the time I realised anything was wrong. I am actually glad it happened though because it turned out okay and was a priceless reminder to never slack on safety, especially when other are involved (my gf and my beautiful 2 month old baby girl)!
From now on I will be doing a couple things differently. Outside or not I will be charging inside a fireproof container. I will be keeping a large bag of sand/dirt nearby to dump into that fireproof container in case of fire (water or fire extinguisher will not work!). I will also keep a pair of safety goggles and fire resistent gloves nearby. And above all I will just be more aware and safety conscious from here on.
The energy density of these things is crazy, don't forget it or underestimate the damage they can do. Safety first! Have fun, but stay safe!
I had a good scare last night that provided a stark reminder of why we treat LiPO (and all batteries really, but particularly LiPO) with the respect and care we do. Most who read here regularly are generally well aware of the dangers and how to mitigate them, but not everyone, and a reminder never hurts anyway.
I charge my LiPO outside on a cement surface and at least 18" away from anything flammable, but I have sometimes slacked a bit on how close it is to any flammable objects. Don't be me, don't slack on safety.
Last evening I went outside and hooked up a pair of 4s parralell LiPO for a quick bulk charge and came back inside. That was making a mistake before I even started. It was late, I was tired and distracted, and there was no good reason it needed charging right then. Don't charge before bed or when you're just not paying attention. Well, I proceeded to forget I put those on the charger, until about an hour or so later when my gf and I hear these popping noises. I immediately knew what it was and ran outside, hoping I wouldn't find everything already in flames. Luckily it wasn't quite there yet. The two packs were puffed out to balloons, split open, and smoking. Ohshityouidiot.gif
I had left these packs far too close to flammable objects including a large outdoor carpet, my bike itself, and some assorted bike stuff. Those objects in turn could have easily spread the fire to the house itself eventually if left unattended. I quickly unplugged the packs from the charger, grabbed them by their wiring harness, and tossed them far into the gravel driveway where they could do no harm. This was actually not very smart and I could have hurt myself because about a minute later one of those packs exploded in flames, and I do mean exploded! If I had been holding that when it went up I'd probably have been blinded! I did need to get rid of it ASAP but I should have taken a second to protect myself first. Again, don't be me.
It was quite the show, and my gf was shocked at how much energy a relatively small battery can hold. After the pyrotechnics settled down I buried both packs in gravel to let thermal runaway do its thing and safely expend all their energy into the rocks.
I realized what had gone wrong fairly quickly, it was my fault and a stupid mistake. I had not changed my charger settings and it was attempting to charge my 4s LiPO to 20.75v (5s @ 4.15v/cell). The charger just kept dumping energy into these poor things well past their capacity to hold that energy, and boom was the inevitable result.
Kind of scary. If I hadn't been right there to hear those initial pops as the first few puffed cells popped there is a very high chance I'd have come out to a full blown fire by the time I realised anything was wrong. I am actually glad it happened though because it turned out okay and was a priceless reminder to never slack on safety, especially when other are involved (my gf and my beautiful 2 month old baby girl)!
From now on I will be doing a couple things differently. Outside or not I will be charging inside a fireproof container. I will be keeping a large bag of sand/dirt nearby to dump into that fireproof container in case of fire (water or fire extinguisher will not work!). I will also keep a pair of safety goggles and fire resistent gloves nearby. And above all I will just be more aware and safety conscious from here on.
The energy density of these things is crazy, don't forget it or underestimate the damage they can do. Safety first! Have fun, but stay safe!