dm9876
10 mW
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20130212-why-you-really-hate-cyclists
likely similar reasons of cyclists feelings toward ebikers.
Dean
likely similar reasons of cyclists feelings toward ebikers.
Dean
I agree largely, but I would adjust this a little bit:John in CR said:...it really pisses people off that cyclists so commonly ignore the rules of the road without consequence, and drivers cannot...
Agreed wholeheartedly.John in CR said:... Plant the idea that each cyclist means one less car on the road ...
gestalt said:It all comes from the top down from our "betters". The government doesn't play by the rules, nor do the law enforcement or the 200k a year and up club. there is a whole different set of rules for each echelon all the way down and each of them looking down on the next while internally rationalizing their actions. I do it myself with pedestrians. I see them jaywalking, getting in my way while I'm trying to keep my momentum up and get pissed.
now here comes my rational, go ahead and break the rules, but know what you're doing and be aware of the situation. that goes for cars, motorcycles, bikes and pedestrians all around. just get off your damn phone and pay attention, look around you for christs' sake.
My view is consistent.Ykick said:Of course, the bigger the "private" vehicle the more "bully" the behavior IMO....
MattyCiii said:My view is consistent.Ykick said:Of course, the bigger the "private" vehicle the more "bully" the behavior IMO....
Also-
* The more expensive the car, the more entitled the driver acts (pretty much by definition, amiright?
(entitled: Driver honks, revvs, drives like everyone will get out of his/her way)
* People who drive all day - but don't drive for a living (i.e., all-day drivers that are not UPS/FEDEX, taxi drivers, etc) drive sloppily, then when challenged get aggressive very quickly. These are local contractors - plumbers, general contractors, etc.
There really is a class system out there on the road.
MattyCiii said:One thing I'll swear to is an e-bike gets lots more respect than just plain cycling. And not due to looks (my folding bike looks much the same with power as it did pre-epowwer). It's the acceleration and top speed that gets respect.
MattyCiii said:John in CR said:...it really pisses people off that cyclists so commonly ignore the rules of the road without consequence, and drivers cannot...
...it really pisses people off that motorists perceive cyclists so commonly ignore the rules of the road without consequence, and drivers think they themselves cannot...
Really? Did the driver choose to operate a car that has no brakes?
Dauntless said:MattyCiii said:John in CR said:...it really pisses people off that cyclists so commonly ignore the rules of the road without consequence, and drivers cannot...
...it really pisses people off that motorists perceive cyclists so commonly ignore the rules of the road without consequence, and drivers think they themselves cannot...
Really? Did the driver choose to operate a car that has no brakes?
Irrelevant that the car had brakes, the driver WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE USING THEM. Once the cyclist was at fault, the discussion ends, there is no absolution. The single greatest irritant is the sheer number of cyclists who insist they can't be held responsible for their own actions. And it's not one in thousands around me, it's about about half.
In the last 24 hours I twice had cyclists nearly cause accidents going the wrong way on the wrong side of the street and then running a red light in front of oncoming traffic. In one case there was a cop right there that did NOTHING!. If it was a motorcycle or a car pulling such fool stunts, he'd have been on it like a glazed donut. THIS is what is important. No amount of spin doctoring can change that.
John in CR said:WOW! No wonder cars treat cyclists like insects. Is that kind of riding actually common in big cities? It's going to get everyone banned. Thankfully no one does down here. Sure some of the moto riding courier guys ride too aggressively, but they inevitably end up in the hospital for it. That kind of adrenaline rush type of riding belongs off road.
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This type of behaviour is hardly conducive to having cordial relationships with motorists.