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Re: Torque Raptor in Texas

Post by Qulbix » Oct 22 2013 1:43am

efMX Trials Electric Freeride wrote:bending / crimping the frame chainstays during production is a pretty common practice to get clearance for tires, cranks, etc..
Hi.
Will not impose on your thread, snellemin, just to explain the swingarm identation:

Original Raptor swingarms were designed for a 150mm dropout. To fit the 165mm wide motors, we have to widen the swingarms at the end, but at the same time keep them narrow enough in the middle section to maintain pedal clearance (so the pedals do not touch the swingarm) (just as efMX Trials Electric Freeride says above). Therefore some indentation is visible, but that does not compromise the integrity of the swingarms in any way. The only downside is the optical factor.

In the mean time we have fixed this issue with some extra tooling so its visual effect will now be minimal (but not completly gone). Here are some pics to give you an idea, how 165mm (1st pic) and 150mm (2nd pic) look before paint job:

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There is some minimal indentation on 165mm, but that is inevitable. The swingarms that have noticable identations (as on pictures in snellemin'a post) will be replaced.

You will find more pictures on Torque Bike Frame Tech posted today on our Facebook.

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Re: Torque Raptor in Texas

Post by snellemin » Oct 22 2013 2:37pm

Thanks for posting Ziva.
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Re: Torque Raptor in Texas

Post by snellemin » Oct 22 2013 2:39pm

Some more pics.

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Re: Torque Raptor in Texas

Post by QuestionMan » Oct 22 2013 2:49pm

Nice, its coming along.

Can you take a picture with the motorcycle seat mounted or just placed on the bike?

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Re: Torque Raptor in Texas

Post by snellemin » Oct 22 2013 6:28pm

QuestionMan wrote:Nice, its coming along.

Can you take a picture with the motorcycle seat mounted or just placed on the bike?
Here you go.

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Re: Torque Raptor in Texas

Post by ecruz » Oct 23 2013 1:07am

Hey I was looking at your latest pictures and your swing arm dimples are much bigger than mine. Definitely shows on yours on my swing arm you have to look at it in an angle to really tell. Just FYI

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Re: Torque Raptor in Texas

Post by snellemin » Oct 24 2013 11:18am

Still waiting on my headset to arrive. I should of ordered it from somewhere else... :( . I did receive my rim, so that will need to be laced up soon.

My worries of the controller not bolting up has be eliminated. The controller protector is flushed with the controller, so only one screw is needed to keep it in place. Double sided foam tape will keep the back of the controller in place. That rubber grommet that was sent with the kit to keep the controller wires nice and tidy, is just too small. There is no way to run all the wires through it, especially with the connectors still on. I'll just have to cut the grommet/booth and silicone it up when the wires are wrapped in.

The stock rear disk adapter is too thick for my setup. I fished out a thinner 203mm adapter from my parts box and looks like it might work with some spacers and redishing the rim. I'm going to use a cheapo 3 speed freewheel in the meantime.
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Re: Torque Raptor in Texas

Post by snellemin » Oct 31 2013 12:04am

Some better pics. Got me some more spacers from Zombies, which are thicker than what came with the cromotor. I put a cheapy 3 speed freewheel and used 2 freewheel spacers for the chain to fit.

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Re: Torque Raptor in Texas

Post by botz244 » Oct 31 2013 6:23am

have you tried the sensorless with the motor? zombie said itll work but not smoothly like i like. just like a mac motor itll turn but like crap and i wont run it

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Re: Torque Raptor in Texas

Post by snellemin » Oct 31 2013 9:21am

botz244 wrote:have you tried the sensorless with the motor? zombie said itll work but not smoothly like i like. just like a mac motor itll turn but like crap and i wont run it
I haven't hooked it up yet, as I'm not in a big rush to finish the bike. Waiting on the front wheel to be built by the dude at BikeBarn.
I use sensorless controllers on my Magic Pie and GNG motor with success. I'm thinking the 18fet sensorless will be fine as long as I can modulate the throtlle properly and don't go overboard with the voltage. But I'll just have to wait and find out myself. The 18fet sensorless can always go to the Magic Pie motor and use Zombie's 18 fet controller with the cromotor.
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Re: Torque Raptor in Texas

Post by snellemin » Nov 02 2013 10:54pm

Installed the fork today after I picked up my front wheel from Bike Barn.

Used a spacer on the fork before installing the Cane Creek headset.

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I use just Royal Purple motor oil to install the headset.
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This tool is cheap and easy to use.
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Re: Torque Raptor in Texas

Post by snellemin » Nov 02 2013 10:57pm

Getting there...The bike is tall or I'm just too damn short. Waiting on more stuff to arrive next week.


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Re: Torque Raptor in Texas

Post by QuestionMan » Nov 03 2013 12:38am

What is the point of the spacer on the fork?

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Re: Torque Raptor in Texas

Post by snellemin » Nov 03 2013 12:59am

Spacer makes it easier to remove the crown race in the future.
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Re: Torque Raptor in Texas

Post by sn0wchyld » Nov 03 2013 1:39am

have you had a chance to stand astride it yet? how does the 160mm width feel?
great to hear 'bout the vendor standing behind their product! good stuff!

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Re: Torque Raptor in Texas

Post by snellemin » Nov 03 2013 1:46am

I've sat on it and felt fine. But I won't really know for sure until my crank arms arrive and start pedaling. It does feel huge compared to my regular bikes that I ride.
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Re: Torque Raptor in Texas

Post by snellemin » Nov 08 2013 5:44pm

Installed an old set of 165mm cranks. Still need to look for a new rear brake, as the the one I have is leaking oil at the lever. The front brake lines are find, but need to install some spacers between the brake rotors.

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Re: Torque Raptor in Texas

Post by skeetab5780 » Nov 08 2013 5:54pm

wow that is a huge pile o bikes you got there. I'm starting to get an overflow of parts also. Its just so hard to pass up a good EV deal :D

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Re: Torque Raptor in Texas

Post by QuestionMan » Nov 08 2013 10:49pm

snellemin: Are you worried about the cops in texas giving you problems with the raptor? Especially with the motorcycle seat?

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Re: Torque Raptor in Texas

Post by snellemin » Nov 09 2013 12:16am

QuestionMan wrote:snellemin: Are you worried about the cops in texas giving you problems with the raptor? Especially with the motorcycle seat?
Dunno man. They never bothered me with my other ebikes. But my commute will be a different route now, so I'll just have to wait and see.
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Re: Torque Raptor in Texas

Post by snellemin » Nov 12 2013 3:48pm

I know some of you appreciate nude shots.

18fet ebike ESC's. One is Zombie sensored 4115 and the other is Lyen sensorless 4110 controller.

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Re: Torque Raptor in Texas

Post by snellemin » Nov 14 2013 3:45pm

Got me some oldies Hope Brakes and MRP chainguides. Still waiting on my Hydraulic pressure switches for the brake cutoff.

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Re: Torque Raptor in Texas

Post by QuestionMan » Nov 19 2013 12:55am

What are you going to do about a chain tensioner or rear derailleur? Do you need any special length chain?

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Re: Torque Raptor in Texas

Post by snellemin » Nov 19 2013 2:14am

Leaky brakes and life is slowing my build. I will just build the bike up and look for a different solution for brakes. I tried pedaling the bike around and it felt weird withe the MC seat. Pedals is just for show in this case. The bike does feel nice riding though.

For now I'm using my old derailer and 8 speed connex chain. I did add an extension before with the 44T chain ring, but took it out when I installed the 40T chain ring.

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Re: Torque Raptor in Texas

Post by snellemin » Nov 21 2013 4:22pm

I found me some Magura e-bike brakes for 80 something bucks. They are not the best looking but sure have some fat levers. The brake lines are really long for the bike. So some cutting will be required if I decide to stick with them. I'm still waiting on some new brake adapters for the fork and old school Hope brakes. I'll be working on the bike the whole weekend and see how far I get.

Those Hygia brakes are toast and require a total rebuild. I took the calipers apart and looks like I can rebuild them myself sometime in December.

I swapped out the moto seat and it looks funny. I'm going to try to install the controller inside the frame and see if I like that setup. CA will be installed on the "top tube" and some steel cutting will be required to do so.

Turning radius is really small compared to my other bikes. Dual crown fork and that long wheelbase might me a challenge on some trails.

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