Qulbix 165/140 Raptor /NYX Carbon - Sabvoton/Adaptto - 20s/22s Build #5

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Re: Qulbix 165/140 Raptor /NYX Carbon - Sabvoton/Adaptto - 20s/22s Build #5

Post by liveforphysics » Apr 10, 2018 6:00 pm

Nice work on the drop outs! I will copy that if my own dropouts spread.
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Post by ridethelightning » Apr 11, 2018 8:34 am

I was worried about those dropouts spreading, so made clamping stainless "spanners" to shift the leverage up the swingarm. I got a stainless 12mm thick block lazercut that press fits tight in the dropout socket, welded on a piece of flatbar with a single 8mm bolt that is not visible in the pic(behind phase wires) that transfers the torque ~8ich up the swingarm.
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Re: Qulbix 165/140 Raptor /NYX Carbon - Sabvoton/Adaptto - 20s/22s Build #5

Post by eCue » Apr 11, 2018 5:17 pm

For the seams I would sand the top coat off fill the seams with a carbon epoxy mix sand then respray a top coat.


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Re: Qulbix 165/140 Raptor /NYX Carbon - Sabvoton/Adaptto - 20s/22s Build #5

Post by efMX Trials Electric Freeride » Apr 11, 2018 5:34 pm

eCue wrote:
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For the seams I would sand the top coat off fill the seams with a carbon epoxy mix sand then respray a top coat.

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I think they are more concerned with the misalignment issues (with the suspension etc) more than the aesthetics of the seams not matching up.. although it would be nice if it both works and looks perfect, for the price paid..
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Post by ridethelightning » Apr 11, 2018 5:39 pm

yeh, my seems also dont match perfectly, but the bike seems to be well aligned and havnt had any issues with the plastic bushings wearing.

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Post by Merlin » Apr 11, 2018 8:02 pm

yep that gap isnt a Problem. changed the M6 Bolts 8.8 to strongest 12.9 + filled it just with black silicon.
you cant epoxy that because you have to open minimum one side if you need new bushings.

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Post by brumbrum » Apr 12, 2018 2:28 am

Thanks Merlin, maybe i will try some washers and see if it stops excessive wear of bushings and movement on swing-arms

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Post by eCue » Apr 12, 2018 4:07 pm

efMX Trials Electric Freeride wrote:
Apr 11, 2018 5:34 pm
eCue wrote:
Apr 11, 2018 5:17 pm
For the seams I would sand the top coat off fill the seams with a carbon epoxy mix sand then respray a top coat.

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I think they are more concerned with the misalignment issues (with the suspension etc) more than the aesthetics of the seams not matching up.. although it would be nice if it both works and looks perfect, for the price paid..
The more I read about the frame the stronger it resembles knock off Chinese junk

Plastic bushings. Buyer beware
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Re: Qulbix 165/140 Raptor /NYX Carbon - Sabvoton/Adaptto - 20s/22s Build #5

Post by brumbrum » Apr 12, 2018 4:40 pm

eCue wrote:
Apr 12, 2018 4:07 pm
efMX Trials Electric Freeride wrote:
Apr 11, 2018 5:34 pm
eCue wrote:
Apr 11, 2018 5:17 pm
For the seams I would sand the top coat off fill the seams with a carbon epoxy mix sand then respray a top coat.

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I think they are more concerned with the misalignment issues (with the suspension etc) more than the aesthetics of the seams not matching up.. although it would be nice if it both works and looks perfect, for the price paid..
The more I read about the frame the stronger it resembles knock off Chinese junk

Plastic bushings. Buyer beware
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They are made from POM sometimes called Delrin. It's self lubricating and often used in engineering.

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Re: Qulbix 165/140 Raptor /NYX Carbon - Sabvoton/Adaptto - 20s/22s Build #5

Post by MadRhino » Apr 12, 2018 5:44 pm

Swingarms pivots need bearings, bushings are wallbikes domain.
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Post by eCue » Apr 12, 2018 6:50 pm

Good to hear it is a proper material for bushings etc , I was worried for the owners wobbling down the road :)
I replaced Motorcycle bushings before do to play/ wobble being steel they were hammered out and pressed in using a vise.
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Re: Qulbix 165/140 Raptor /NYX Carbon - Sabvoton/Adaptto - 20s/22s Build #5

Post by eCue » Apr 13, 2018 12:59 am

Could be the Raptor uses ABC bushings as I was reading that my RM element uses plastic bushings as well.

description: ABC a self-lubricating plastic bushing injection molded from a blend of thermoplastic materials, embedded with reinforcing fibers and solid lubricant.

A RM manual instructs to lightly lube "ABC" bushings at assembly and infrequently after.

ABC Bushings https://www.igus.com/wpck/6410/plastic_bushings

iglide® plastic bushings have a low wear rate, superior chemical resistance to sintered bronze bearings, and operate quietly. They are dirt, dust, UV, and corrosion resistant and have a high load capacity.
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