yes I know.
Did you read the entire post ?
I really do not know what to do. I am at a turning point. I really do not want to go to the post office and deal with sending them back as I never did it.
But on the other hand why would I want to build packs for 96 batteries which will only = 1/2 the capacity of my two SONA packs which are 8 Ah in parallel.
96 cheap 18650 cells are equel to 20 Samsung cells. There is no way they will make it downtown and back which is only about 2.6 miles. That is really sad and am tired of wasting my time.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/PACK-OF-4-12V- ... SwYHxWOnCy
At least those will make it downtown and back mabye 50 to 70 trips.
I guess I will finish the second wood pack so I will have four : That way if someone happens to get a bunch of used laptop cells I will be ready to buy them. I know DA gets a bunch but would probably never sell any. He gets like thousands of them right ? I would gladly send a money order for $60 or $70 for 48 decent cells which would equel 8 Ah @ 48 volts. Thanks.
I have watched some you tube videos doing capacity tests. I can do this with my LiPo charger I think. I have never done it and all I did was charge these cells. If they are 1 Ah or higher 96 of these batteries would be 48V and 8 Ah. If that is the case I might keep them. If not they are going back and since I can upload pictures to e bay then they should give me a full refund when I take pictures of the test results.
Since I am running 96 cells in parallel series for 48 volts I may even return them if only 1 Ah and definatlly if 900 mAh or less. The only way I will definatlly keep them is if they are all over 1 Ah. I am looking for close to 10 Ah for them to even be useful to me. I will also need to test at least a dozen cells to make sure they are all the same. Thanks.
Is is what I thought. I bet you can imagine what I would like to do.
I better get 100% refund is all I know. I am really not happy about goiung back to SLAs and probably won't. Like I said I am about finished with e bikes and this post.
It is very obvious to me why gas still rules the world. It is because only about 10% of the people in the world can afford good batteries for any EV. A gallon of gas is usually less than $4 a gallon and is much more difficult to scam someone on. Basically until better batteries are produced any vehicle electric powered is a complete waste of time unless you make about $1,000 a week.
I waited about 3 weeks and worked hard on this battery project for nothing. 18650 batteries are garbage period. So is SLA and so is LiPo. They are all garbage. I am thru wasting my time. Everything is for sale. I will keep the 700cc build but when the SONA packs go I am selling that also. Mabye I will build a gas powered bike someday.
E bay sucks also and am about done with that too. If they let these crooks sell all these garbage batteries and lie their asses off just to make money then e bay is a really bad joke. It should be shut down. There just is no standards any more. And then people wonder why people go on mass shooting sprees. It is because people are evil. Most people are just no damm good. All anyone cares about is money and they do not care how many people are screwed over to get it.
I am done here. It really is nobodys fault here and I know I was warned and everyone has tried to help but lets just face it. The EV revolution is really nothing but a big joke. Electric motors work great and have for over 50 years but battery technology will never advance to the point where it will replace fossil fuel.
The oil companies will never allow it and will make sure the government suppreses any new technology from being developed. I bet 20 years from now the only people who will be driving electric cars and motorcycles are rich people just like today. E bay will also still be selling garbage and ripping people off because they make money doing it.
I still thank everyone for the advice and the help. Eventually though most of you will all realize just what a big waste of time the EV revolution is and most of you who post here probably own and drive a gas powered vehicle.
I am no exception as if I had the money for car insurence every month my 2005 Dodge caravan would be on the road. It only requires one 12V battery which I do not have to order on e bay but can buy less than a mile away at Wall- Mart with a two year guerentee however I don't need to as the last time it started the first time I tried it. Thanks everyone for your help and support.
Not sure what USD 5 is but probably 1/2 the money. It looks like they are afraid of getting a bad review. Wether or not I continue to keep building e bikes or batteries really is not the point here anymore at least not at this time. If there is any hope whatsoever of the EV revolution to succeed in the future it depends on putting a stop to the dishonesty going on with e bay.
I really can't count how many folk I have talked to over the years who simply gave up and sold or threw out their electric scooter or e bike simply because it was too expensive to get new , good batteries. Not everyone can afford decent quality lithium. Most people order SLA which really is not going to last long in the real world. Most people are not as smart as DA and they kill those SLAs in a few months or less. Also with the danger of Lipo many people shy away from it as I did at first.
I have heard at least 50 times from average people that they would rather build a gas bike and when I ask them why it is always because of the batteries.
As long as people stay ignorant and lazy ; gas will continue to prevail. Also as long as these greezy ( A word I made up over 20 years ago which means both greedy , greasy and sleazy )
Chinese manufactures and sellers keep making money robbing from people the EV revolution will continue to fail miserably. Everyone here on ES needs to get involved and stop this insanity.
The last pic on the bottom is the first message I sent back to the seller today and I sent the second as I did not think the first went thru. This sort of action is what must be done each time someone is scammed so that a stop is put to this sort of thing.
I did not make up the term better bussiness bereau. I know that at least one time it did exist. It needs to re exist and put a stop to false advertizing and scamming. Also whoever built the SONA packs and the LG and genuine Samsung packs need to start building more and also 24 and 48V packs.
It is something I would be willing to do as you can tell from my posts. My kit may not be as small as the cheap plastic kit but it is not much larger and if true 2,500 or 3,000 mAh cells were to be used it should prove to be profitable. I would even be willing to wire up a BMS as it is not much more difficult than the balance plug. However it seems like every time I come up with a good idea to benifit ES I either get no reply or the idea is shot down.
I truelly believe that pessimism really holds back progress in any idea or person who recieves it. I grew up hardly wanting to see my mother and was not raised much by her. The reason was I got sick and tired of hearing what I can't do. Basically if you are always told what you can't do eventually most people will choose to do very little or nothing. It is the same as brainwashing. everyone needs to get a clue. Thanks and I hope mabye I have cleared some things up.
I build e bikes. There not always pretty or practical but sometimes they work, at least for awhile. Immortality is not a dream but the future of our evolution. We were given the tools to forge our own destiny. We were created in gods image and shall evolve to live forever.