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Re: new eZip motor

Post by DrkAngel » Jan 13 2019 12:25pm

From your description, the throttle seems to be the problem.
Try one of your spare throttles?
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Re: new eZip motor

Post by latecurtis » Jan 13 2019 12:51pm

From your description, the throttle seems to be the problem.
Try one of your spare throttles?
Thanks. I will look for one. Not sure if I have a spare as a lot of builds but will look.

Only thing I still don't understand is the LCD display module which comes with the kit and turns power off and on and has three speed modes. low , medium and high.

Default setting is supposed to be high if the blue wires are not hooked up however it makes no difference at all if the blue wire is hooked up or not. The three speed settings do not work on the LCD display and there is absolutely no difference when I hook up 12S LiPo or 10S Lion. The motor shows no difference in power.

I can switch the throttle from easy street which has 35% more power with the new build to rule that out though.

What you are saying makes sense though as when I go to the e bikeling web site I only see one controller for 36 volts and 500 watts. That makes me suspect that they used a 250 or 350 watt controller for the new build as they might have run out of the 500 watt controllers that are matched to those motors.

I am really not sure but will definitely find out. Thanks.

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Re: new eZip motor

Post by Sunder » Jan 20 2019 7:45pm

How do you know there is no difference? It may just be a bit too subtle to notice.

An ammeter on the battery would give you a better indication.

I've started playing with Arduino. It's a lot easier than I expected. And with the nano less than $3 shipped:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/MINI-USB-Nano- ... :rk:1:pf:0

There's no excuse to not experiment and learn. (Mos sensors cost $3-30. An arduino alone is "blind")

You could conceivably build one yourself, that takes the throttle position as well as the amps being used. When you are below the limit, just replicate the throttle position signal (It can replicate voltage, and PWM, but not resistance, so should be able to drive brushless, but not brushed motors).

You could also use it to accurately measure speed, efficiency (How many watt hours used per kilometer), see instantaneous stats when climbing hills, and by comparison, see how much you are helping, or if you lost weight, or got drop bars to ride in a hunched position. etc.

Endless fun.

Originally I was thinking of just making a custom range management tool - measure how much power is being used, estimate remaining charge, etc. But you can get all sorts of modules, including accelerometers (Can do acceleration and quarter mile estimation/measurement), and voice recognition. So I was even thinking of making it specific to my voice only, and turn on the bike by me saying "Bike On", and if it detects motion without hearing that first, start an alarm.

There are also GPS monitors, so I could get a location sent to me, but I'm out of pins on the Nano for that, so would need to get a Pro, or even a Mega (since I'd need a 3G module as well).

All of this is small enough to fit inside most pushbike frames (as in literally inside the metal/carbon fibre pipes), let alone hide it in a motorcycle frame, so it would make a good security feature while either hiding it, or looking like it's a part of the electric bike.
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Re: new eZip motor

Post by latecurtis » Jan 23 2019 8:58pm

As the Hub Motor Turns and the LiPo Fire Burns. It goes thru the snow and up the hill with some pedal assist.

We had a blizzard here about three days ago. 36 hours after the snow stopped falling I took a trip downtown with the new build.

I was very annoyed to see that most of the side streets had 1 to 3 inches of snow in many areas and even had to get off and walk several times so I did not wipe out.

When I asked someone downtown why all the roads were not clear I was told that it will rain tomorrow and that the snow will melt and is why they stopped plowing.

The thing is though all that melted snow will turn to solid ice tomorrow when the temperature goes back down to zero degrees. I guess they will need to put a lot of salt down to compensate for it.

As far as the performance of the little e bikeling motor it did just fine. It will probably last a long time with the lower power level and pedal assist than Easy street if I choose NOT to pedal assist.

However I have been checking google maps and Craig's list for the Cleveland Ohio area and it is mostly flat there. I do not see any sense in changing the throttle or controller at this time.

A train there from here is 76 bucks and they sell a large box to put a bike into. I will need to go there and measure the box and see if it will fit. I may have to take the front wheel and basket off and turn the handle bars or remove them as they could be too wide so I will need to look at that instead of the throttle and controller if I decide on taking a train.

I might order that gadget when I get settled up there to see how much power I am using but do not see an LCD or LED display. I also do not see how it hooks up. I am not familiar with such electronics but would be willing to watch a video or videos on it if you post a link. Thanks.

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Re: new eZip motor

Post by Sunder » Feb 03 2019 10:13pm

How's the snow? I heard you had a few days where it didn't break -14*C. We've had a few days over 40*C, and they're hard. -14*C though is another matter entirely.

On the bright side, it's kept me indoors, so now I've finished the 144v battery, and am just waiting on the controller to arrive.
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Re: new eZip motor

Post by latecurtis » Feb 13 2019 1:32am

Had a few days where the roads were clear and drove the new build downtown. there is a blizzard happening now though. Probably wont be able to ride for about a week. Was downtown last night before it started snowing today.

Went down on my right shoulder about two weeks ago. Was coming home after drinking and was across the street from storage about a block from my house. Would not have mattered if I was sober or not. patch of ice was as slick as a skating rink. It was black ice on the right side of the road and a car was turning so could not avoid it. Was only going about 5 mph and the wheels just slid right out. Right rotater cuff is already an old injury re injured about a dozen times over the past 20 years. I was in pain about a week. The car actually stopped and asked me if I was alright.

It still has no power up hills and tops out at around 15 mph I think. Easy street has the same motor but on the front and is a 700c wheel and goes at least 25 mph and takes the same hills with a lot less pedal.

I have not changed the controller or throttle on the latest build yet. DA told me he thinks it is the throttle so will try that first. Just not been in the mood to work on anything.

This move has me really stressed out. I got less than a month to find a new place or will be living in the dark as no power here when my room mates move out.

Was a big riot here last night. I guess everyone was fighting after I left to go down town and the police were here for screaming and yelling.

I was downtown drinking and watching movies. Good thing as I might have killed a dude. I don't handle aggression well. The landlord wants them to move out before me as I brought them in. I can understand that but once they leave I am without power or heat.

I have to find a place and move first. I am too old to be a baby sitter. I need to get the hell out of here A.S A P. I do not wish to die an old man in a jail cell. Thanks.

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Re: new eZip motor

Post by Sunder » Feb 17 2019 10:17pm

Sorry to hear about the drop. I've had only one drop so far (and hopefully ever), it was about 40km/h (25mph?), had some bruised ribs and inflammed tendons for up to 6 months, but no treatment required. Just a fair bit of pain. I was a lot younger too, so healed faster than you would, I guess.

Really hope you find somewhere to settle that's decent. The amount of crime and drama around your current place would drive me absolutely insane. My house is in the kind of place, where we went on holidays for 2 weeks, and accidentally left the front door open. Computer, TV, home theatre - All still there when we got home. The only down side we had was a squatter - An Indian Myna bird that decided our bedrooms made a nice nest.

Let us know where you end up. I'd be keen to take a virtual tour of the place, especially good riding spots. I've been "Golden handcuffed" (Offered a bonus to stick around for a few years), and I'm dreaming of travel, so would love to live vicariously. The bonus is big enough for me to take a year off at the end of it, if that's what I want to do, and I am seriously thinking of doing that - but not sure how to with kids in school. (Not really a fan of home schooling).

My projects haven't progressed. I've got a rare window of both energy and time to work on it, but the shipping is taking a bit longer than I had expected/hoped, even paying for express shipping. I have done all the wiring diagrams, to figure out how to keep the standard kill switch, tap the bike's brake switches to trigger regen, etc. I'm much more confident I can get this working, touching only 1, maybe 2 of the Australian Design Rules, meaning it will be easy (Easier at least) to register.

Anyway, hope your dramas and moving location go well. Sounds like you could do with a bit of stability and a good space to work on hobbies.
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Re: new eZip motor

Post by latecurtis » Feb 19 2019 7:59pm

As the Hub Motor Turns and the LiPo Fire Burns.

We got a bunch more snow. Also due to alcoholism and lack of ambition I sleep past 6 or 7 PM on most days now. Basically am fed up with my life and care very little about anything in the world outside these days.

The one person I go downtown to see drinks less and less as time goes on and claims his heart is failing. He also sleeps most of the day and has very little interest in life as well.

I am lucky if I go downtown once a week due to my friends failing health and the weather. I just play video games and watch TV basically and drink beer around or after midnight until about dawn and sometimes after.

I do plan on changing the thumb throttle that is on the new build. The more I ride the bike the more I believe DA to be right when he said it sounds like the throttle is the problem. It sticks a lot and can actually set it for cruise control because of that. I have to press it upwards to completely disengage the motor and it only responds at approx. 1/2 throttle.

My plan is to take the throttle off the Schwinn. The kit you sent Sunder as the rim is still slightly bent after I replaced the spoke so am not riding it until I can find a bike shop which will put it on a machine for 15 or 20 bucks. I can try that throttle on the new build as if I remember correct it worked perfect.

If that does not solve the problem with the lack of power then I still have the 36 volt 500 watt controller Dan sent me and by looking at it I think that all the wires will match up. I do not think the module which has the speed settings will hook up to it but the speed settings did nothing anyway so also suspect it could be defective as well.

The last time I rode the bike I was so drunk I don't remember much but do recall making it all the way up state street hill around noontime after about 16 Budweiser's I started drinking around midnight. McDonald's serves breakfast all day and ordered two sausage mc-muffins with no egg and two mc-double cheeseburgers.

I don't recall the trip back to storage and both my main 36 volt packs are down there now. I was there yesterday to make sure my bike was in my unit and locked up. lol. I still have to pay that bill this month. I really do not know how or where I am moving to for sure. I will just be glad when the move is finished. Thanks.

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Re: new eZip motor

Post by latecurtis » Mar 07 2019 4:27pm

As the Hub Motor Turns and the LiPo Fire Burns. Spring - Pleeeeease :P

Looking forwards to riding. Have not run the Turbo dual motor or the other 20" dual motor bike in a long time. Been at least two years since the first dual motor build. I also look forwards to building a huge 60 volt pack from used but tested to 85% minimum capacity. 100 cells all rated over 2,000 mAh. 2,500 to 3,000 mah New and all tested to > 2,000 mAh. 100 count minimum for a 16S pack. 16 * 6 = 96 so 100 count will be a 6P - 16S pack for 2,000 watts for dual motors or a 1,500 watt rear 48V direct drive for my next build.

My new PC build. It can run most games out there. One of my other hobbies when the weather is terrible and is no fun to ride an e bike. :mrgreen: Thanks.

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Re: new eZip motor

Post by Sunder » Mar 08 2019 9:35pm

Not a bad setup. Will definitely play FHD games on full detail.

One of my friends is getting a new PC. Looking at a similar build, but 1- 2 generations newer. Ryzen 2800 instead of 1800 and Radeon 580 instead of 380.

I'm more of an Intel Nvidia person myself. Less bang for buck, but higher total performance.
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Re: new eZip motor

Post by DAND214 » Mar 09 2019 8:49am

Hey LC, are you still in NY or moved? Either way, it's good hearing from you.

Dan

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Re: new eZip motor

Post by latecurtis » Mar 10 2019 3:54pm

room mates are moving out this week or next and will be sitting here without heat or lights.

looks like the homeless shelter for awhile the way things are going.

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Re: new eZip motor

Post by Sunder » Mar 10 2019 6:57pm

Anything we can do to help?

At least it's spring there now, though that far north, it's gotta be still really cold, right?

You ever thought about doing a bit of bicycle couriering on the side - either for a company like Uber Eats, or directly approaching local restaurants/businesses? It'd get you out in normal daylight hours, get a bit of exercise, a bit of extra money and you're still riding around enjoying your bikes.

Remember this story from last year? https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real- ... a257a6a687

Dedication overcomes a lot of disadvantage.
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Re: new eZip motor

Post by latecurtis » Mar 12 2019 9:41pm

I don't think a delivery company will hire someone on an e bike. Not legal in ny. NY city mabye due to the heavy traffic e bikes are good for delivery if the cops don't stop you.

also when it pours down raining or ice and snow would not be able to do it. That happens very often in NY and probably Ohio as well. I am pretty much screwed.

Thanks though.

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