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Re: new eZip motor

Post by latecurtis » Jun 24 2019 9:31pm

I just went back and looked at the terminal blocks. I did not understand what they were about but after looking at the pictures I see the screws so now it makes some sense to me.

I hope to get my storage here next month and order some new tips DA recommended so I can start soldering and shrink wrapping again so I can make professional looking plugs and adapters.

I will also need to start assembling large capacity packs with quality BMSs that have short circuit protection as well as low voltage as well as charge AND discharge balancing.

I would appreciate some links for BMSs which have all the features mentioned above or most of them. Defiantly short circuit protection.


I also am interested in knowing how many cells are recommended to be wired in parallel. I would like to order a lot of 100 or more cells which have been tested to 85 or 90% capacity and build a large 10S pack consisting of 30 or 40 cells. Will a 3P or 4P 10S pack work with a single BMS ?


I could use three BMSs - 30 cells each for a 90 cell 10S - 9P pack. That would be ideal for 40 mile round trips, Please let me know.


Thanks.



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Re: new eZip motor

Post by Sunder » Jun 27 2019 7:27am

I got this one working on the pack for my electric motorcycle a few months ago:

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https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3297624 ... 37adkd315I

It's a bit on the pricey side compared to a "Dumb" BMS, but it does everything, short circuit protection, charge protection (on a different line to the discharge, so it's harder to screw up).

Everything is programmable to the Nth degree, (configurable, rather, since no code is required), so if you want a long life out of your battery, program it to stop charge and balance to 4.0v instead of 4.2v. Got special cells that discharge safely down to 2.5v? Well, set cut off at 2.3 volt under load, and 2.51v at rest.

Get the screen as well - It will give you full detail on what's going on in your pack, and can be integrated with your controller to give you standard speedometer/odometer readings, etc. Real time power draw.

I know it's probably more than you wanted to spend, but as long as you look after it, it's probably the only BMS you will ever need, and you can carry it from pack to pack, if you make the connectors modular.

Edit: Link to the cheaper and smaller 8-24S version: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3297417 ... 67f5O02ut7
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Post by latecurtis » Jul 10 2019 2:27pm

As the Hub Motor Turns and the LiPo Fire Burns.

Wiped out again on the bike. Thought my shoulder was dislocated but just a contusion. Went to emergency room for x rays. Damage to rotater cuff. Will need MRI but tore that many times in the past lifting weights but not as bad.

Moved about 53 miles from motel to City of Canton. Population 80,000. Was riding 2.8 miles to Wall Mart and started raining and did not bring plastic to cover my electronics. Was looking for somewhere to get a plastic bag and cut across some grass by Auto zone and flipped the bike. Over handlebars and directly on my right shoulder.

Was only going about 5 mph but there was a manhole or storm drain about 4 or 5 inches below the grass but completely camouflaged as tall grass all around it. When I showed the lady who worked at Auto Zone I had to stare hard for several seconds just to see it. Almost invisible unless you are looking for it. She said it is the City. I said they need to put a red flag or a cone there. Someone will break their ankle or something for sure.

I went to the library and found a different way to travel to Wall-Mart and have been there twice since then with no mishaps. Again it was not my fault. Last winter it was a patch of Black ice and same shoulder. I believe serious permanent damage to right rotater cuff now and will need MRI and dye to document it for Social Security. I have a medical update for disability this year and have rotater cuff damage as well as Gout to add to my list of disabilities. Thanks.

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Post by tomjasz » Jul 11 2019 1:41am

Dude, seriously? Not your fault? You rode across a lawn, not a bike path... I found that if I take responsibility for my decisions I soon lose the aura of victim. Hang in there! Pain sucks! Glad to read it’s not more serious. That woulda trashed me for months.
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Post by Sunder » Jul 11 2019 3:01am

My parents were sued by an old lady who claimed she tripped in front of our property. On advice of a lawyer, my parents offered her medical costs and one year of in home assistance to avoid a law suit. Came to about 100k aud, maybe about 70k USD equivalent.

She refused and put in a claim for 1.3 million. Good thing she called Saul Goodman. Their lawyer was not only a shonk, he was incompetent.

First claim was that we damaged footpath. Judge pointed out that footpath is council responsibility, irrespective of who damaged it, (otherwise we would have responsibility to repair, but no authority to do so) so case ajourned and the council is added as a defendant. We agree to split costs with council for a Queen's Counsellor (Most senior lawyer you can get, usually charge 8k a day)

QC argues that if she tripped on a footpath in broad dayligh, the danger was obvious, and she failed to take reasonable care of her own safety and therefore council is not responsible. Also shows photos of our "damaged" footpath, vs the rest of the footpath, and judge says if the photos weren't labelled, he couldn't tell the difference. Judge rules that as the damage is readily apparent and isn't all that severe, the plantiff is 100% responsible for her own injuries, dismissed the case and awards standard costs.

She appeals again, saying her lawyer misunderstood her instructions and she actually tripped over debris hidden in long grass that we left there. New judge is absolutely puzzled as to how that kind of miscommunication can happen, so our QC takes a different approach. Asks us to pay for a PI to film her doing thing she said as a result of the injury, she couldn't do. E.g she asked 1.3m for lifetime home care because she could no longer bend over to clean. Get a video of her bending over.

PI did an amazing job. The judge comments that she looks extremely fit and able for her age.

Our QC presses the case: This woman is a liar. She lied about where she fell, she lied about the impact. She didn't call and ambulance and didn't use her normal GP, she went to a GP family friend to write up the assessment of her injuries (PI found that too). Judge agrees and labels her a vexatious litigant. What that means is that she cannot bring us, or any other party to a civil claim, until her lawyer has laid the facts in front of a magistrate AND puts the estimated costs up as a bond before the case starts. Unsurprisingly, he also awards maximum costs.

So the woman now has gone from a position being offered 100k to being 280k in debt. (Those QCs are not cheap!).

Anyway, most of that story wasn't all that relevant. I just found it interesting the process the judge went through to determine whether firstly you took reasonable care of your own safety, and secondly whether there was negligence on behalf of who you claim is responsible. Yes, there is risk riding through long grass. But also yes, the council is responsible for mowing grass and marking hazards. In Australia at least, its possible partial compensation could be paid, depending on how much the judge though each party contributed to the accident.

Anyway LC, glad you are mostly ok.
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Post by latecurtis » Jul 12 2019 1:24pm

I did not think it was a good idea to sue the city less than a week being here. The cops would all hate me and give me a hard time.

I was only hoping the city could mark such dangerous spots to prevent someone else getting hurt. It is no fun flipping a bike and damaging a rotater cuff which was already tore and damaged many times in the past.

I am seeing a doctor about this injury and will let him know how it happened. It should be brought up at a city council meeting though so such hazards can be marked but doubt it will happen.

Maybe if the mayors mother or aunt step in the hole and break an ankle or hip falling then it will be addressed. Nobody who runs any city gives a ratts ass about people from out of town unless they are a tourist spending big money. :(

Thanks.

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Post by wturber » Jul 12 2019 2:12pm

latecurtis wrote:
Jul 12 2019 1:24pm
It should be brought up at a city council meeting though so such hazards can be marked but doubt it will happen.

LC out.
Just send an email with a photo to the appropriate department. No need for a council meeting on something so basic. Or - novel thing - you could bring some clippers and just trip the grass yourself to help the next fella not hurt himself.
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Post by latecurtis » Jul 31 2019 3:38pm

Thanks for posting. Good to hear from you.

Those holes are all over the city. My shoulder is healing up. I went to get an MRI done and it is a rotator cuff tear as I suspected.

I am going to the Ortho doc. tomorrow. I have been steering clear of that area where I got hurt as there is heavy traffic there. A lot of on and off ramps and intersections. With my luck I probably get run over going back there to mark the spot and if I did it would be removed when the city cuts the grass.

Hopefully I will be getting my stuff out of storage soon and should be back to building e bikes again. Thanks.

LC out.

8/3/19

Went to the ortho doc. He said shoulder needs surgery . Bad rotator cuff tears on two major tendons.
Was on my way to Wall-Mart and the bike kept shutting down and was close to full charge and less that a mile riding. Happened before and at least a couple times, I then noticed sparks coming from the kill switch. Very notacable when I switched it on after switching it off and checking connections. I saw Auto Zone and about a block after passing it did a U turn and switched off and walked a block there to replace the switch. No Spark now and good as new but for how long. Switch is rated for 420 watts and 35 amps at 12 volt. I need a 36 volt switch and should be rated > 500 watts as that is what the e bikeling motor is rated for.
Please let me know. Thanks

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Post by latecurtis » Aug 12 2019 5:49am

As the hub motor stops turning and the Lipo Fire stops burning.


E bikes are cool. But the fact is they are not practical. They are a calamity in the rain or snow. Most do not carry a second passenger. They do not have a heater in the winter or AC in the summer.

They are severely limited by battery technology so impractical for any significant distance.

I will really miss you all here on ES but the fact is I am buying a gas powered car. A Honda Civic four cylinder.

Not only did I hurt myself riding but was assaulted last month riding here in the City of Canton Ohio. I posted it then edited it out as was not relative to this forum. Besides a motor vehicles protection in rain and snow and creature comforts a car protects the driver/passenger from people with vicious or criminal intent.

I am a violent felon and not allowed to possess a firearm and riding around on an e bike with a sword or machete will either get me shot , arrested for manslaughter, or both.

To make it simple. I am much better off with a simple gas powered vehicle. I will most likely sell most or all of my e bikes and invest in good quality insurance and pursue my previous passion for car audio so doubt there will be any funds left over for anything e bike related. Thanks and goodby. I will truly miss you all.


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Post by Sunder » Aug 12 2019 4:54pm

The end of an era, hey... That's sad, but I understand.

I think you're wrong in one sense, but right in another. Ebikes are before their time. They are not practical - Yet. It's like taking that high tech 11:1 compression, high revving motor with a hybrid system back to the 1960s. It's superior to those big block V8 motors running 6:1... but in a time where nobody cares about efficiency or emissions, and when fuel quality is so inconsistent, you'll just blow up your motor and have people wonder why you bother with all this uneccessary complexity. It's solving a problem that people in the 1960s don't have, and don't understand yet.

Ebikes are like that now. Before their time, rather than not practical. They have benefits nobody wants, and they are a curiosity that just draws attention to you.

I think it's changing though. As hundreds of millions or BRICs Brazil, Russia, India, China citizens come out of poverty into middle class, the demand for cars and petrol will make it only available to the elite and the rich.

But enterprising people will build ebikes with panniers and windshields, and powered biker clothing will become more common and available. Combined mode transport, where you easily dock your bike onto a bus or train for longer trips and use it for the "last mile" ( or 5) will become common.

But... not for a while. Too long, in my mind. There's no commercial incentive to drive change while cars and petrol are cheap and convenient enough.

It has been a good journey LC. Frustrating at times, but encouraging, fun, and we got to know you as a friend online. Take care mate. I wish you all the best.
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Post by wturber » Aug 12 2019 5:34pm

Sounds like you are substituting "car replacement" with "practical." Ebikes can be very practical. But they aren't nearly as versatile as the typical automobile. Because of that, they can seldom completely replace one.

I've replaced about 70-80% of my single person car trips with ebike trips and about 60-70% of my single person car miles with ebike miles in the last couple years.

I've had two Honda Civics in the past. They were very good and very practical cars.
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Post by latecurtis » Aug 13 2019 6:33pm

As the Hub Motor Turns and the LiPo Fire Burns. I probably wont ever stop building e bikes. Maybe just slow down.

First off cars break down. I know I have been there and probably most of you all have broke down somewhere on the side of the road out in the middle of nowhere stranded. Not only can that be an inconvenience but also a life threatening situation.

The first thing I will do when I get the car is install a bike rack on the roof. I have two 20" BMX e bikes in storage. My next project will be converting one to a two passenger somehow. I have to think of the woman I am with. If we are stranded on the side of the road we both need a way back to civilization.

I need to have a rear seat I can bolt up to a strong reinforced bike rack and when I don't need the seat I can replace with a large cargo basket as I can ride the bike on nice days to the super market to haul groceries. This is most important and can even start the planning process now as I will have the car in 3 weeks and will be driving it on October third when I get auto and triple A insurance.

I will be driving to NY to get some of my storage. I hope to have a bike rack on the roof which will hold at least one and mabye two bikes. The emergency two seat will need to be 100% waterproof. Eventually all my e bikes will need to be 100% waterproof and many upgrades will be done.

I don't plan on selling any of my bikes and will be getting the rim on the 1,000 front direct drive Sunder sent fixed at an e bike shop in Akron as well as the 800 watt 20" rim. I will be working all winter on upgrading my 6 e bikes. I am still planning on a dual hub motor e bike with the 1,000 watt motor on the front and a new 1,000 watt motor on the rear with 2 controllers and a single throttle on a Schwinn Ranger by The Spring of 2020. I will need to build a 48V custom battery pack with 18650 cells.

First though I can use some tips on how to build a two seat bike for roadside emergencies. It will need a really strong rack which will support a 120 pound person for a 5 to 10 mph emergency trip and for non emergencies a rear basket for laundry or groceries as I want to save the car for when I really need it. I will reduce my carbon footprint and save money on car repairs , tires ect.

Thanks and please let me know.

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Post by Sunder » Aug 13 2019 6:54pm

I don't think any off the shelf bike rack would hold 120lbs. They're usually secured to the rear hanger, which isn't designed to hold that kind of weight.

I could be wrong though, because bike pegs do exist, and they are designed for teens who could hit that weight, but not my area of expertise.

You'd be better off getting a tandem, or a second bike.

With regards to waterproofing, I do have a 3D printer, so if you need to encase something and make it water resistant with grommets/cable entries and silicone, I can print off anything you need and mail it to you. (As long as you do the drawing - There's free software like www.tinkercad.com you can use).
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Post by wturber » Aug 14 2019 12:22am

Sunder wrote:
Aug 13 2019 6:54pm

You'd be better off getting a tandem, or a second bike.
I'd throw a Free Radical Xtracycle conversion into the mix as a possibility. You can sometimes find used ones for a good price on Craigslist.
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Post by latecurtis » Aug 14 2019 3:58am

I have to work with what I have. I will get steel bars, Nuts and bolts. Whatever I need to make it work. 120 pounds is maximum. She is about 110 and am looking at a bolt in banana type seat Actually the seat is all I will need help finding.

I am very familiar with flat steel bar at home depot and steel drill bits. It just has to be about double the strength as what I have already built. Pegs on the rear wheels and good tires and tubes.

What I am looking at with each build is upgrades. I miss working on them and the e bike workshop. I even built an awesome pack out of 18650 cells and even hooked a BMS. Would still be running if I did not hook up wrong. It was proven to be a strong pack.

I just need an alternate mode of transportation which is more mainstream and practical. A gas powered vehicle. That will cost money so any and all e bike related projects are on a back burner on low flame or life support for awhile. A few months at least. I will require a booming stereo in my new ride. That is never optional with me. Thanks.

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Post by wturber » Aug 14 2019 11:12am

... then do a search on DIY Long Tail Cargo bikes for ideas on how to extend a bike by adding the rear triangle to the back of another. Most of the simpler projects are essentially do it yourself Xtracycles. Be double sure that the bike is sound before giving others a ride.
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Post by latecurtis » Aug 23 2019 5:39pm

Thank you. That makes sense.

My savings for a car is not going well. Lucky if there is 100 left towards it by the time the 3rd of September rolls around.

Paying 95 a month for storage 500 miles away hurts. I am paying for stuff I cant use and have no transportation to go there and haul it here.

I do not want to lose it. I have 5 working e bikes there and the FX 75-5 motor and controller , About 8 or 10 other bikes and frames and spare parts including both LiPo chargers and my old LiPo batteries , all my tools. About 4 computers including a gaming machine with a Ryzen 7 1800X processor and liquid cooling. 3 large aquariums and a bunch of other stuff that I cant ever use and have to keep paying for. Thanks.

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Post by latecurtis » Aug 29 2019 12:59am

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As the Hub Motor Turns and the LiPo Fire Burns.


The trip was for a modem for a landline phone for 20 a month.

Was up that way once to get the first modem for internet. I got lucky and store was open cause there were people there as close 8 PM and was a couple minutes late. I was not sure where it was as only there once.

Went to Mcdonalds and forgot the charger. Batteries are old now. Reaching end of life.They might be a little over 50% capacity as when were new.

It was dark and asked about 4 or 5 people directions. Was planning on going back the way I went and making a second trip to WallMart to get the phone to hook to the new modem with the Sona packs home but someone told me if I kept going on Whipple rd. It would end on Tusk....... where Wallmart was. I made it there and got everything I needed.

I have learned too much to ever give up on e bikes. The neighborhood I live in is not the safest at night. I used my brain and took the bus and used the bike rack for most of the 2.8 miles back home and had plenty of battery power for the last 1/2 mile or so left.

Only a few people on the bus and a young guy maybe in his 20s was observant and saw My bike was electric. He asked me about it and how to get one and I told him to go to e bay. I said it was a hub motor that was geared. I said they are more efficient and quiet.

I explained to him the federal speed limit of 20 mph and a 750 watt motor being legal. Also said that most geared hub motors are about 500 watts and direct drive usually 1,000 watts. I wish I told him it was an ebikeling motor.

I also gave it some thought and mentioned it during my conversation on the bus that a lot of roads are definitely NOT safe for e bikes!!!! Here is my Big Question. Are there any android or other navigation app specially designed for bicycles so the best routes to avoid high traffic and intersections are available. That could save lives. :idea: A real time app so area traffic is monitored so the best route is available at any point in time.

I doubt I am buying a car next month. I need to get a post office box so I can pick packages up there so they don't get stolen. I need to order a good back tire for winter as it will be here soon. Also a waterproof throttle and finally new batteries.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ELECTRIC-BIKE- ... 0005.m1851

I went to e bay and saw that. I think I will order that unless there is a reason NOT to. It seems like that would be better than ordering 3 or 4 - 4.4 Ah packs and then have to wire them all together however if someone knows they are no good for some reason please tell me before the 3rd of September as I want to place an order then. Only thing I see wrong with it is no BMS. I don't see one in the pictures. :roll:

I do not want cheap Wall Mart tires. What are the best tires for puncture resistance. I want to order a good tire. I think someone posted something a lot of pages back somewhere but will have to look. However if someone knows of a good tire link or battery : please post if you can. I am looking for batteries like the 36 volt Samsung and Sona packs I got. I am not going back to LiPo and definitely not SLAs. Thanks.


LC out.


8/31/19

Since I moved in this apartment which is mostly carpet I notice me feet and ankles itch all the time and place was sprayed by exterminator for bed bugs right after we moved in. We got a zip up plastic mattress for bed and box spring so not getting bit in bed but everywhere else where there is carpet my feet itch if I take off my socks. I decided to solve the problem by spending 100 bucks on a brand new carpet steam cleaner at Wall- Mart and will be spraying all the carpet with a gallon bedbug and flea spray from Home depot before running the steam cleaner this week end.

Not sure but think something wrong with the rear wheel with the motor or the frame. Something was rubbing on my way to Wall-Mart to get the steam cleaner and then it stopped. Got a flat tire in the rear almost to Wall Mart. I tried free air at a gas station and would not hold any. Walked to Wall Mart and got new tire and tube. An adjustable wrench and flathead screw driver for the torque arm and a small hand held air pump.

I had a lot of difficulty changing the tire and got a guy to help me and got the new tire and tube on including the torque arm but when started out the wheel came out of the drop outs. The torque arm kept it from coming completely off. There was a short young female security guard with a gun there who was really nice and helped me for over an hour trying to get the wheel back on right so I could make it back home.

The problem was the axle will not go all the way down in the drop outs. We got it together the best we could and made it home ok with the large box the steam cleaner was in bungeed to my front rack with the small SONA packs under it and the heavy chains , padlocks , tools and gallon of steam cleaner fluid in my back pack. but could not get the torque arm back on and the wheel rubs. I suspect that I may need a couple washers on the inside of the axle as there is not enough clearance between the cassette and pedal chain and the motor.

I have very few tools to work with here but Chad , the guy down stairs has a gas powered bicycle and is mechanically inclined. I will need to find the old installation instructions as Doug in NY is the one who installed the motor. I did not and am not sure where all the washers go. It is my only rear hub motor. The other three uub motors in storage in NY are front hub motors. Please help with a diagram if possible. Thanks.

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Post by marty » Sep 01 2019 5:35am

latecurtis wrote:
Aug 29 2019 12:59am
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Since I moved in this apartment which is mostly carpet I notice me feet and ankles itch all the time and place was sprayed by exterminator for bed bugs right after we moved in. We got a zip up plastic mattress for bed and box spring so not getting bit in bed but everywhere else where there is carpet my feet itch if I take off my socks. I decided to solve the problem by spending 100 bucks on a brand new carpet steam cleaner at Wall- Mart and will be spraying all the carpet with a gallon bedbug and flea spray from Home depot before running the steam cleaner this week end.

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Careful with chemicals to kill bugs. Them chemicals also kill humans. Lets tackle this like a war. First we have to identify the enemy. Any bite marks on your feet, legs? Take pictures. Years ago my legs were itchy. Had no idea what was the cause? tried different bar soap in the shower. That was not the problem. Finally figured out that crappy laundry soap was the problem. Socks touch my skin. Problem was name brand laundry detergent from https://www.dollargeneral.com To let it be known name brand laundry detergent from Dollar General is not the same as name brand laundry detergent from the supermarket. Now we use laundry detergent without dyes or perfumes from https://www.bjs.com

Years ago a heating cooling guy was telling me that Honeywell thermostats from Home Depot were not the same as Honeywell thermostats from Plumbing Wholesale place. Same part number. Home Depot thermostats were lower quality. Lower price also. So it don't matter if ya buying thermostats or laundry detergent. Important to get good stuff.

Re: "carpet steam cleaner" From my knowledge of carpet cleaning. A carpet cleaning machine sprays soapy water on the carpet then vacuums it up. No steam. Best carpet cleaning guy used a shop vac. That guy was a legend in the world of carpet cleaning. He died. I have done this with a rented carpet cleaner. If carpets look dirty? Better option is to remove and throw away.

Careful not to get too much water on carpets or floor under will be damaged. Also some bugs love water. Best way to get rig of all bugs is to clean, clean, clean. Also repair any water issues. Leaks, roof, plumbing, etc.

Tenant from hell was all excited about some free carpet he got from a music studio. He told me that carpet was hanging on a wall for 30 years and was in perfect condition. I helped him carry it into my house. To let it be known nothing good happens to carpet or fabric after 30 years. The backing on the carpet was all deteriorated. Carrying it made me itchy. I get itchy now thinking about that old deteriorated carpet. Tenant from hell went to jail and I threw away all his carpets. Went to jail for a probation violation. Told me that drug counselor told him to write a story about his drug use and the counselor did not like his story?

Before ripping out carpet, ask permission from landlord. What do floors look like under carpet? Pull a corner up and look. To let it be known professional carpet installers work real fast and do not clean the floor. They have been known to lay carpets over dead bodies. To let it be known some bugs are attracted to dead animals.

To let it be known I apologize about the over use of the words - To let it be known :(

Best way to get rig of all bugs is to clean, clean, clean.
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Post by marty » Sep 01 2019 7:07am

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Thank you. That makes sense.

My savings for a car is not going well. Lucky if there is 100 left towards it by the time the 3rd of September rolls around.

Paying 95 a month for storage 500 miles away hurts. I am paying for stuff I cant use and have no transportation to go there and haul it here.

I do not want to lose it. I have 5 working e bikes there and the FX 75-5 motor and controller , About 8 or 10 other bikes and frames and spare parts including both LiPo chargers and my old LiPo batteries , all my tools. About 4 computers including a gaming machine with a Ryzen 7 1800X processor and liquid cooling. 3 large aquariums and a bunch of other stuff that I cant ever use and have to keep paying for. Thanks.

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Paying to store stuff sucks. I got more stuff then I want. Sometimes I wish that all I owned is a phone, computer and some clothing.

Perhaps you might be interested in the services of Marty's Moving Company? I live in Buffalo NY. Half way between Canton, Ohio and Albany, New York. At $1 a mile, total cost would be $1000.

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No idea how to choose a trucking company? I stumbled around the internet and found http://www.centraltransportint.com/ I was happy with their services. Receiver was not happy. Sorry you get what you pay for. Delivered by truck is not the same as personal service by a guy with U-Haul truck.

Central Transport has a web site where you can calculate costs. Shipper needs to create a bill of lading. That's a paper. Central Transport web site has a form to create the paper.

Ballpark cost of using FedEx, UPS or USPS is $1 a pound.

Don't forget boxes, magic marker, tape and dispenser, hand truck, knife, newspapers for packing, blankets, scales, water, snacks, fruit. Am I forgetting anything?
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Post by wturber » Sep 01 2019 3:29pm

Ran some quick numbers on U-Haul and the truck from NYC to Canton is $788 for three days and 538 miles (Google maps puts the drive distance at around 460 miles). Assuming 10 mpg and $3/gallon gas, that's $165 for gas. Let's just call it $200. So yes, it's about $1000 to move a 15 foot truck full of stuff from NYC to Canton.

None of these calculations includes insurance costs.

A 10 ft truck would only be $50 cheaper.

The truck cost going the other direction from Canton to NYC is only $503. Seems like more people are moving stuff out of NYC with U-Haul than into NYC with U-Haul.
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Post by latecurtis » Sep 03 2019 1:30am

Thank you both for posting and glad to hear from you guys.

Renting steam cleaners are not the same as owning one. I can clean as much as I want all the time.

Moving stuff is always a tragedy money wise if you are without a truck or motor vehicle. Or help from someone with a vehicle.

Hopefully I can solve these problems and get on with building e bikes which is what I love doing. Thanks.

LC out.

9/3/19

I guess the only way to get the back wheel on right is to remove the disk brake. Running it with no rear brake is better than having the wheel fall off. I guess I will be walking to Wall Mart to get allen wrenches because all my tools are 500 miles away. :cry:

9/4/19

It is 1:53 am

I was right as soon as I removed the disk brake disk the axle fit perfect in the drop out. I did not have to remove the caliper so there is a possibility if there is a disk slightly smaller I could run disk brakes again. The drop outs are not that deep to begin with. Just enough to fit the axle so the way it was was a disaster waiting to happen. I am surprised the wheel stayed on as long as it did. The wheel is not bent but perfect and straight. If anything got screwed up when I flipped the bike it was something to do with the disk brakes.

Like I said Doug installed the motor and the bike had 27.5" wheels on it but could not find a motor kit so 26" wheels are now on the bike. Axle nuts are nice and tight and even put the torque arm back on also.

Not sure if any other type of brake would work on it since it is a 26" wheel with a bike built for 27.5" wheels. I may just have to run it with just the front brake. Not sure if there is a way to modify it or install a custom bracket for a U or V brake. Please let me know if anyone would know. Thanks.

LC out.

9/11/19

Went to Wallmart to pick up a wet vac for the shower as the drain is slightly higher than the floor and stagnate bacteria grows on my shower floor but no more with the little wet shop vac.

The bike runs great now but only front disk brake. I am not sure if there is a slightly smaller brake disk so I can have rear brakes again. If there is I will want a bike shop to install it properly.

Perhaps there is an adjustment on the disk caliper so I can use my current disk. Not sure. All I know is the disk I have now prevents the axle from going all the way in the drop out so am unable to use it. Does anyone know if there are different size disks and has any one else had this issue with hub motors.

The bike frame is for 27.5" wheels and the hub motor is 26" so could be the problem. Doug installed the motor last winter I think and I did not have any issue until I had to replace the tire and tube at the Wall Mart parking lot about 10 days ago I think. Please post when you can.

Thanks.

LC out.

9/14/19

found a bike shop close enough willing to properly install my rear brake. 15 bucks labor and possibly 20 bucks for slightly smaller disk if needed.They mentioned a spacer could be missing. I think they said spacer or some part.

Doug installed the rear motor in NY and rode it several hundred miles total before the flat. Probably got somewhere between 500 and 1,000 miles on it. Not sure. Could even be more.

Looking forwards to having the bike fully functional again. Thanks.

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Post by latecurtis » Sep 30 2019 8:38am

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Please Sunder if you are there please reply or anyone who might know. Looking to invest in solar power awhile I live here as all utilities are included. When I move though to a bigger place where I can have an e bike workshop I will need these. Also I live in a 5 apartment unit and am the only tenet on the third floor.

Since all utilities included am only unit allowed air conditioning and any electric heater strictly prohibited. My wife got phenomena last September. Other tenants say it is cold here with heat.

Please help me. I just want my place to be warm. I would guess heat here will be below 70 in our sleeping area and huge inconvience to move that due to space allowed. It is a studio / efficiency attic unit. Looking at 500 or 600 watt infra red heater and need enough solar panels to accommodate that and would love to buy additional each month for my next place.

The apartment has a window which has a wood built fire escape unit which is a platform and wood steps to second floor roof. I have a lot of options for mounting solar panels.

Thanks.

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Re: new eZip motor

Post by DrkAngel » Sep 30 2019 4:11pm

Forget Solar!
Insulate your ceiling.
Apartments below you will provide great heat!
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Post by john61ct » Sep 30 2019 4:50pm

You think you are going to generate enough electricity from solar panels, to run electric space heaters?

No.

A landlord is required to provide decent heating, by law. Oil, gas, pellet stove are all a lot more practical and cheaper than electric, even using mains power which is much much cheaper than solar.

And solar is simply not powerful enough.

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