kimboviper
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https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/wave-electric-28mph-bike
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Drunkskunk said:One look at the rack's angle tells me this was designed by idiots looking to make a cash grab.
aaronb said:Drunkskunk said:One look at the rack's angle tells me this was designed by idiots looking to make a cash grab.
Thanks for the compliment! I am actually one of the founders. . . .
I agree its a bit better. After reading the Indiegogo site, things I like: 750 watt rear mounted motor, steel frame, wavy styling, comfort ride, Samsung lithium-ion battery. I can understand the lowered cost by not adding any gearing. I'd like to see the same bike with three gears, which should be doable. Most of the time, I'm only using three gears, though I have 24 to choose from. I keep it in the highest gearing possible most of the time and switch to lower gears when climbing hills. And its the hills that demand that option.dogman dan said:Seriously, IMO a much better bike to have than the storm.
arkmundi said:I agree its a bit better. After reading the Indiegogo site, things I like: 750 watt rear mounted motor, steel frame, wavy styling, comfort ride, Samsung lithium-ion battery. I can understand the lowered cost by not adding any gearing. I'd like to see the same bike with three gears, which should be doable. Most of the time, I'm only using three gears, though I have 24 to choose from. I keep it in the highest gearing possible most of the time and switch to lower gears when climbing hills. And its the hills that demand that option.dogman dan said:Seriously, IMO a much better bike to have than the storm.
dogman dan said:Should be quite cheap to add a 7 speed, BSO type derailleur to the bike. Also easy to weld on stuff like disc brake mounts too, since it's a steel bike.
Main thing I like about it is a durable DD motor with 20 amps or so of controller. Not great for range, but better for the hill than 350w stuff with a 10 amps controller. And fast, when you need fast to dodge across a busy street.
A very street usable ebike, for basic transport, commuting, etc.
aaronb said:Do you guys think 3 front gears would make a difference in desirability? Or would the preference only be to have rear gears?
I think your formulae is a low-cost eBike entry. So the typical 3 gears on chain-ring. Adding in a cheap deraileur might spell trouble, because they'd tend to need service. And I don't find a disk brake for the speeds acquired on a 750 watt motor is necessary. I'm running on twice that with calliper brakes and they work fine, and are not as finicky as disk brakes with regards to proper alignment. The KISS approach works.aaronb said:Do you guys think 3 front gears would make a difference in desirability? Or would the preference only be to have rear gears?
aaronb said:arkmundi said:I agree its a bit better. After reading the Indiegogo site, things I like: 750 watt rear mounted motor, steel frame, wavy styling, comfort ride, Samsung lithium-ion battery. I can understand the lowered cost by not adding any gearing. I'd like to see the same bike with three gears, which should be doable. Most of the time, I'm only using three gears, though I have 24 to choose from. I keep it in the highest gearing possible most of the time and switch to lower gears when climbing hills. And its the hills that demand that option.dogman dan said:Seriously, IMO a much better bike to have than the storm.
dogman dan said:Should be quite cheap to add a 7 speed, BSO type derailleur to the bike. Also easy to weld on stuff like disc brake mounts too, since it's a steel bike.
Main thing I like about it is a durable DD motor with 20 amps or so of controller. Not great for range, but better for the hill than 350w stuff with a 10 amps controller. And fast, when you need fast to dodge across a busy street.
A very street usable ebike, for basic transport, commuting, etc.
The 750 watts on the Wave is really noticeable on hills. I need to get a good video online showing the hill climbing because that's where it shines compared to 350-500 watt bikes.
We are actually working on offering a disc brake upgrade (to the front wheel).
Do you guys think 3 front gears would make a difference in desirability? Or would the preference only be to have rear gears?
beastcoast said:Aaron, I tried sending you a private message on IndieGogo but I'm not sure that it was sent. Is there ANY possible way to receive the bike prior to July? I desperately need an e-bike for the summer as I will be selling my only car. I originally intended to build one but after seeing your project, I couldn't pass up those specs for such a low cost. I would seriously pay an additional 200 bucks to be able to receive one earlier
arkmundi said:I think your formulae is a low-cost eBike entry. So the typical 3 gears on chain-ring. Adding in a cheap deraileur might spell trouble, because they'd tend to need service. And I don't find a disk brake for the speeds acquired on a 750 watt motor is necessary. I'm running on twice that with calliper brakes and they work fine, and are not as finicky as disk brakes with regards to proper alignment. The KISS approach works.aaronb said:Do you guys think 3 front gears would make a difference in desirability? Or would the preference only be to have rear gears?
ebikedelight said:arkmundi said:I think your formulae is a low-cost eBike entry. So the typical 3 gears on chain-ring. Adding in a cheap deraileur might spell trouble, because they'd tend to need service. And I don't find a disk brake for the speeds acquired on a 750 watt motor is necessary. I'm running on twice that with calliper brakes and they work fine, and are not as finicky as disk brakes with regards to proper alignment. The KISS approach works.aaronb said:Do you guys think 3 front gears would make a difference in desirability? Or would the preference only be to have rear gears?
Wow..you are running a 1500 watt ebike system..and using caliper brakes ?
Is that like using drum brakes on a Ferrari ?
avitt wrote:
I don't see an issue. I run good quality, well adjusted V-brakes with a Mac10 at speeds up to 40 mph, and have never felt wanting for more stopping power. Look at the brakes used by road racers, who hit extreme speeds on mountain descents...calipers.
DAND214 said:avitt wrote:
I don't see an issue. I run good quality, well adjusted V-brakes with a Mac10 at speeds up to 40 mph, and have never felt wanting for more stopping power. Look at the brakes used by road racers, who hit extreme speeds on mountain descents...calipers.
A MAC 10t at 40mph! What voltage are you running?
As for the Pros, they don't weigh half of what we run. Rider and bike.
For what they are selling, rim brakes will do just fine.
Low weight and so so speed will be fine with them.
I sure hope you don't believe all you read on these ads.
Dan
Avitt said:DAND214 said:avitt wrote:
I don't see an issue. I run good quality, well adjusted V-brakes with a Mac10 at speeds up to 40 mph, and have never felt wanting for more stopping power. Look at the brakes used by road racers, who hit extreme speeds on mountain descents...calipers.
A MAC 10t at 40mph! What voltage are you running?
As for the Pros, they don't weigh half of what we run. Rider and bike.
For what they are selling, rim brakes will do just fine.
Low weight and so so speed will be fine with them.
I sure hope you don't believe all you read on these ads.
Dan
I run at 30-32 mph on the flat, with a 38-40 mph downhill section. My point is that rim brakes are perfectly adequate, especially for dry, road conditions.