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Re: GPS tracker

Post by markz » Feb 10, 2016 5:37 am

https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... o.activity


https://play.google.com/store/search?q=tracker&c=apps
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=motion&c=apps
https://play.google.com/store/search?q= ... ker&c=apps

I realized my previous post I said FREE incoming, but we need outgoing text.
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Re: GPS tracker

Post by Fyod » Feb 15, 2016 4:26 pm

If anyone's interested in a tracker with open-source Arduino compatible code, with your ability to program it to do whatever you want, grab data from CycleAnalysts and similar ebike controllers, and make it fit into handlebars - check out https://www.tindie.com/products/Fusion/ ... rod_search
Glad to answer any questions.

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Re: GPS tracker

Post by LockH » May 02, 2016 9:34 am

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Re: GPS tracker

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Re: GPS tracker

Post by FrankyRay » May 17, 2016 7:29 pm

markz wrote:Fido a division of Rogers has a Pre-Paid plan where you dont even pick a plan, let it slide, $0.40/min talk and $0.30 per text. Get this incoming text is FREE!!!!

Its a little known fact that you can do that, I dont think Fido is anything special in regards to this type of plan. Their customer service is regular 9-5 Eastern Time Zone, Nigerians usually answer with a North American name like Bill or Bob or Sue.

Prepaid website
http://www.fido.ca/web/page/portal/Fido ... lans/Plans
Under "By the minute" is what I term....The "Let it slide" Plan.
Says right there unlimited incoming text. Which is good!
No monthly fee, except for the $0.75 emergency fee.

Its a free plan, its a pay per use plan. So they want to snag you into $0.40/min talk and $0.30/outgoing text.
I use these guys a lot, but tend to switch the plan over to Bell network Virgin Mobile. Fido has good phone numbers depending on the geographical address you put in.

I am wondering if they charge the $ 0.30 outgoing text wheb the gps device send to you to give information on the location, speed ,etc, on your phone message text.

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Re: GPS tracker

Post by markz » May 17, 2016 8:03 pm

That is the issue at hand, the lowest price I have seen is $15/month and that is expensive for a GPS text message sender. Maybe a high Gigahertz transmitter is whats needed in the GPS unit, and a mini FOB to receive the signal. Those seem to be about 1200ft or more with signal gain technology. Not counting concret or brick buildings.

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Re: GPS tracker

Post by LockH » May 19, 2016 7:03 am

"Winona, MN entrepreneur fights crime"
http://www.winonapost.com/Archives/Arti ... ghts-crime
After his bike was stolen, a Winona entrepreneur created a GPS unit that could be hidden inside of bicycles. The device led Winona Police to a bust an alleged bike thief and recover numerous stolen bikes.
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Re: GPS tracker

Post by LockH » Jun 05, 2016 2:16 am

"Coming soon | E-PiCycle - a open source, Raspberry Pi based GPS tracking / security alerts & GPS guidance system + custom web dashboard and Ebike display."
e-picycle

Raspberry Pi powered by electric bike battery. V 0.01
Parts Required:

DC-DC Converter eg 36v to 12v or 48v to 12v (depending on battery voltage)
Raspberry Pi
GPS component (optional)
Wi-Fi dongle (optional)
Temperatue / Humidity probe (optional)
Bluetooth Dongle (optional)
Cycle Analyst (optional)
Cycle Analyst USB Serial TTY programing cable
Custom Display EG smart phone, Tablet, Kindle (optional)

Description

E-Picycle a Raspberry Pi GPS Tracking / GPS Guidance (offline maps) and E-Bicycle statistics gathering solution.
Idea

Wireless USB Dongle configured to constantly be searching for open Wi-Fi networks. Once connected to the internet, notify the owner / operator of the E-Bike the GPS coordinates, Battery Statistics and Cycle Analyst data.

The notification method will be highly configurable with options such as Web bashed dashboard (local and/or remote), Android application. An smart device may be used as a custom display and communicate with the raspberry Pi by WiFi or Bluetooth.
Discussion

https://www.reddit.com/r/epicycle/
Cycle Analyst

Record Cycle Analyst data ( volts, amps, speed etc. at regular intervals) Save until exported to Web based dashboard.
Web Based Dashboard

Local Pi Web Server
Export to remote web server

Export raw data

Idea: Option to have raspberry pi export data to FTP Server, Email, Twitter, Web Based Dashboard local and or remote * Dashboard enabled * Dashboard disabled
Custom Display

Idea: Wifi and optionally Bluetooth now onboard the ebike with the Cycle Analyst data being recorded. We can make a custom display with a custom device with WiFi or Bluetooth. EG old android phone with a app or web page to display: * Speed * Trip Timer * AH trip timer * AH total timer * Km/h * KM current trip * Custom distance queries * Watt Hours total / current trip * Offline GPS mapping / route guidance
Seen on Reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/epicycle/comme ... pberry_pi/

Hello World - Your E-Bike now has a IP address!
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Re: GPS tracker

Post by amberwolf » Jun 05, 2016 2:27 am

LockH wrote:"Coming soon | E-PiCycle - a open source, Raspberry Pi based GPS tracking / security alerts & GPS guidance system + custom web dashboard and Ebike display."
https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewt ... it=PiCycle

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Re: GPS tracker

Post by LockH » Jun 05, 2016 4:33 am

Dang. Sorry A. Didn't check first. sorry (again)
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Re: GPS tracker

Post by LockH » Aug 08, 2016 9:42 am

Trackr in news... again. "How to track your bike in case of theft using your mobile phone?" (from a website titled "Amazing New Tech"):
http://amazingnewtech.com/TrackR/CA/a-275/
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Re: GPS tracker

Post by danielrlee » Aug 08, 2016 10:23 am

LockH wrote:Trackr in news... again. "How to track your bike in case of theft using your mobile phone?" (from a website titled "Amazing New Tech"):
http://amazingnewtech.com/TrackR/CA/a-275/
As with most of these (over)hyped tracking solutions, this uses a peer to peer network which relies upon others to also have the app installed.

IMO, the only tracking solutions that can be relied upon use the GSM comms network.

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Re: GPS tracker

Post by phild » Aug 14, 2016 8:34 pm

I use this

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Waterpro ... 108.u5gVw9
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hooked up to a 12v DC-DC converter.
I needed to buy a $5 prepay SIM card and top it up with credit to send me SMS texts. it sends me a txt with a link to google maps showing me the location when I send it an SMS in the required format... the instructions are chinglish. It is a bit obvious for someone looking but there is also a power off alarm - sends me a text when the power goes off ... must be enough capacitance to fire off a dying txt. So if it is ripped off I get a txt.
There is also a cool web-site that tracks the device in real time

http://www.lkgps.net/
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Re: GPS tracker

Post by mybike » Aug 14, 2016 11:15 pm

I’m looking at buying this one as it seems simple two wire to a 12v.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mini-Realtime ... 1#shpCntId

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Re: GPS tracker

Post by LockH » Aug 15, 2016 10:13 am

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Re: GPS tracker

Post by LockH » Oct 01, 2016 6:38 pm

DANG... these things are getting cheap. The "ANKR Location Tracking Tags":
https://ankr.com/

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How ANKRs work
← ANKR Basics
ANKRs work by communicating with the ANKR mobile app to help you keep track of your stuff.

ANKRs can be attached using the included key ring or the key ring can be removed and the ANKR can be hidden in a bag or wallet.

ANKRs communicate via Bluetooth Low Energy, but do not need to connect or pair in order to function thanks to ANKR's patent-pending technology.

ANKRs have a 250 foot range. Because ANKRs and Bluetooth use RF (radio frequencies) to communicate, the communication range can be impacted by environmental factors such as walls, people, water, etc.

An ANKRs battery lasts for about 6 months. They use a 2025 lithium coin cell battery which can be purchased here.
Seen here:
https://www.touchofmodern.com/sales/ank ... 69cbe7639d

... currently for $19.50 ("was $24.95")
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Re: GPS tracker

Post by MikeSSS » Oct 02, 2016 10:28 am

This is a very interesting thread and very informative too. Like many others, I'm wanting some sort of tracking, especially one that contacts me if my bike is being disturbed. It would be nice to shop or eat without thinking about the bike.

For now, I'm using a 10mm Security Maxx chain and Abus 34/55 lock when on a ride and an Abloy 367 lock when at home. Second lock is a Kryptonite NY Fahgettaboudit mini U lock. Next step is a Kryptonite New York Noose for parking the bike at home, it has a 12mm chain, probably the biggest size chain size for actual carry. Also, the bikes battery goes with me, when the bike is parked, that will continue even if I get a tracking / remote alarm system.

Our son had both his race motorcycles stolen a few months ago. He found them through social media, and got them back. He provided Houston PD with all the information they needed for arrest, indictment, prosecution and conviction. HPD did nothing except ping pong him between HPD offices. HPD did nothing, they were of no value at all, zero value. Law enforcement can not be depended on to recover stolen items. If you have had a LE agency help, you have been lucky.

Thanks to all who have provided the valuable information in this thread.

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Re: GPS tracker

Post by i2000s » Oct 08, 2016 4:04 am

Since the bike has a battery, why not use the bike battery to power a normal GPS and you don't even need to hide it--just connect the device without label to the battery--the theft will think this is a part of the ebike... @phild, why do you use a DC-DC converter? The device seems supports 10-75VDC wide band voltage input, but I have no experience with this.

As pointed out above, the ANKR GPS tag looks interesting. But it seems the sale has ended (see https://www.touchofmodern.com/i/WYUQ8CAC for the promotion page). So, $25.
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Re: GPS tracker

Post by 4LivesPerGallon » Nov 15, 2016 12:52 pm

LockH wrote:So. Looks like (local to me, in Toronto, Canada) "Mini GPS Tracker GPS GPRS GSM Vehicle Car Tracking" currently for $50. Seen here:
http://www.dobuydirect.com/collections/ ... ississauga

I assume install and monthly monitoring fee extra...
Thinking is to install... somewhere on trike frame. (Watts better than deterring theft? Catching a thief. Hehe) Anyway, it'd take many months before equaling the cost of any lock, chain, wattEVer. `Been sorta getting used to/liking not having to carry any lock or find somewhere (not always handy) to lock up to. Having to carry a key around... etc.

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Re: GPS tracker

Post by 4LivesPerGallon » Nov 15, 2016 12:57 pm

MikeSSS wrote:This is a very interesting thread and very informative too. Like many others, I'm wanting some sort of tracking, especially one that contacts me if my bike is being disturbed. It would be nice to shop or eat without thinking about the bike.

For now, I'm using a 10mm Security Maxx chain and Abus 34/55 lock when on a ride and an Abloy 367 lock when at home. Second lock is a Kryptonite NY Fahgettaboudit mini U lock. Next step is a Kryptonite New York Noose for parking the bike at home, it has a 12mm chain, probably the biggest size chain size for actual carry. Also, the bikes battery goes with me, when the bike is parked, that will continue even if I get a tracking / remote alarm system.

Our son had both his race motorcycles stolen a few months ago. He found them through social media, and got them back. He provided Houston PD with all the information they needed for arrest, indictment, prosecution and conviction. HPD did nothing except ping pong him between HPD offices. HPD did nothing, they were of no value at all, zero value. Law enforcement can not be depended on to recover stolen items. If you have had a LE agency help, you have been lucky.

Thanks to all who have provided the valuable information in this thread.

Mike S


Your son's story is typical. The hidden-from-the-naive "game" is that the victims are suppossed to collect insurance money, then buy another bike/motorcycle/car etc. The police 'think' that the victims should be happy, now that the victims got a brand new model, and the victim got rid of the old stuff.

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Re: GPS tracker

Post by 4LivesPerGallon » Nov 15, 2016 1:00 pm

LockH wrote:DANG... these things are getting cheap. The "ANKR Location Tracking Tags":
https://ankr.com/

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How ANKRs work
← ANKR Basics
ANKRs work by communicating with the ANKR mobile app to help you keep track of your stuff.

ANKRs can be attached using the included key ring or the key ring can be removed and the ANKR can be hidden in a bag or wallet.

ANKRs communicate via Bluetooth Low Energy, but do not need to connect or pair in order to function thanks to ANKR's patent-pending technology.

ANKRs have a 250 foot range. Because ANKRs and Bluetooth use RF (radio frequencies) to communicate, the communication range can be impacted by environmental factors such as walls, people, water, etc.

An ANKRs battery lasts for about 6 months. They use a 2025 lithium coin cell battery which can be purchased here.
Seen here:
https://www.touchofmodern.com/sales/ank ... 69cbe7639d

... currently for $19.50 ("was $24.95")


What you've posted is the same as a "wireless luggage alarm" that buzzes the receiver when the luggage is moved out of the transmitter's range.

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Re: GPS tracker

Post by 4LivesPerGallon » Nov 15, 2016 1:11 pm

phild wrote:I use this

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Waterpro ... 108.u5gVw9
Tracker.JPG
hooked up to a 12v DC-DC converter.
I needed to buy a $5 prepay SIM card and top it up with credit to send me SMS texts. it sends me a txt with a link to google maps showing me the location when I send it an SMS in the required format... the instructions are chinglish. It is a bit obvious for someone looking but there is also a power off alarm - sends me a text when the power goes off ... must be enough capacitance to fire off a dying txt. So if it is ripped off I get a txt.
There is also a cool web-site that tracks the device in real time

http://www.lkgps.net/


BTW, nice seatpost! Had two e'cycles with those suspension seatposts, stolen. Btw, the company that makes that had (has?) a virtual monopoly and at one time managed to get offshore, cheaper, clones blocked at the port, by their lawyers. That compnay also bought out their only North American competitor at one time.

What is the monthly subscription cost? Don't you have to get a full-coverage wireless company at $35/month?

My uncle recently bought a very flexible home alarm with enough components and programmability to cover bikes, garage, bike lockup, etc. It's the "Fuers G18 GSM SMS LCD Wireless Home House Burglar Alarm System Kit Solar Siren" from Amazon.ca

N.B. Amazon censors reviews, surf for "Amazon censorship like Big Brother". Most of Amazon reviews are "paid for" by professional reviewers who get product free, or at a discount.

Anyway this "Fuers G18 GSM SMS LCD Wireless Home House Burglar Alarm System Kit Solar Siren" system was $125. Now, Amazon has jacked up the price to $267.


This is what my uncle stated (his review) of this Fuers G18 GSM SMS LCD Wireless Home House Burglar Alarm System Kit Solar Siren:

SUMMARY: This system is awesome value for the price of $125, but it took me two weeks to program the settings, and to finally get the solar siren working. The user manual is missing some important "keystrokes" for setting parameters. I like solving "puzzles", so I persisted in making it work, rather than returning it. Spent more than 10 hours total in programming the system.

BREAKDOWN:

There is a lot of "hardware" for the $125 price, but customs fees was another $22 on top. Still, this system is probably worth $350 if it was easier to set up. A video clip would have been more useful for this particular system.

This hardware, generally, is sold under 3 brands, or more, with different controllers and sirens. This particular system is actually the solar siren (which is a stand-alone alarm already) and the security system. Confusion results from having two manuals, both of which are needed to understand how to use the solar siren, in particular.

PRO's:
- Made up of very high-quality plastic. Includes batteries.
- In two weeks of use, has not made any false alarms.
- There is sufficient "hardware" and an internal "battery backup" to protect an average Canadian home.
- The solar siren has a low-energy ussage warning blink-light to warn potential intruders.
- The solar siren has internal protection against tampering, disabling, or removal. (I took it all apart) Designed by a genius, probably. Cannot be modified without setting off an internal alarm (constant blue light.) The circuit board has 2 resistor-wires in case there is too much solar power -- that's brillant.
- The controller is made of very, very high quality.

CON'S:

- Solar siren not suitable, if no sun for a week.

UPDATE: One of the remotes is no longer registering on the controller.


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Re: GPS tracker

Post by Mündawg » Nov 15, 2016 10:44 pm

If i lived in a dense city, where would be thieves would be taking and using my bike within a few miles, i would get a crowd powered (or whatever it's called) device. I would probably use it as a back up while helping to launch it's viability. But i live in the mountains and work and sometimes ride around a city nearby. If some one stole my bike from the coffee shop they would likely throw it in the back of a pick up and be off dozens of miles away in some back country area never to be seen again. And going after some redneck who stole my bike and brought it back to their place... well.. :roll: I wouldn't risk getting shot to get my bike back after it's stolen..

For me, it has to be prevention and deterrence. I maybe will get a motion/movement activated system, 110dB thereabouts. And i like the kryptonite locks. I'll replace my substandard U-Lock or supplement it with a heavy chain lock. I think making the bike look (and be) way more work than it's worth is the best deterrence. So the U-lock holding it (hopefully) to a bike rack or street sign, and the chain going through both wheels. At quick glance a would be thief can tell it wouldn't be worth the effort to even try.

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Re: GPS tracker

Post by Ozzzz » Jan 08, 2017 5:21 pm

No review of performance but here's an independent GPS tracker:

https://www.xyfindit.com/xygps?utm_sour ... =CID-nagps
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Re: GPS tracker

Post by LockH » Jan 09, 2017 8:10 am

Well, well. ES Bible "No suitable matches were found." For "Chipolo".

Seen at CES 2017, the "Chipolo Plus" reported here:
https://www.cnet.com/products/chipolo-i ... r/preview/

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While the Chip has been around for a while, the "Plus" is the new/latest version. "Pricing is currently unavailable."

In part:
A company by the name of Chipolo, which claims to have the thinnest and loudest trackers on the market, has a different approach. The company offers three devices: the Plus, Clip and Sticker. All of them allow you to use a companion app to ping the tracker, which will emit a loud sound to help you find your items. You can also click on the tracker to ring your phone. Each tracker has a range of 60 feet (standard for Bluetooth), but also include a crowd GPS feature that uses other people's trackers to locate your missing items when outside of Bluetooth range.
"Then there's the Sticker, which can be attached to the side of a camera or a pair of sunglasses."... Or somewhere on your bike...

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Article ends:
The downside with Chipolo's trackers is the battery. The Plus and Wallet will last up to 12 months, but the battery isn't user replaceable. You have to instead send the tracker back to Chipolo and then have the option to purchase a new one for half off. The Sticker will support a new wireless charging technology, called Wattup, from Energous.

The Chipolo Plus is available now for $25 (which roughly converts to £20 or AU$34). The Clip is slated to arrive this spring for an undisclosed price, while the Sticker is expected to arrive toward the end of the year.
Hmmm... "the battery isn't user replaceable." Hmmmm.... :wink:
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