Has anyone tried one of these Chinese enduro bikes?

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Has anyone tried one of these Chinese enduro bikes?

Post by rsilvers » Sep 07 2015 7:12pm

It has a CA on it - they don't seem to be cutting any corners.

http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/3 ... 8.8.IrGnkf
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Post by markw » Sep 07 2015 9:52pm

Looking for holes in this build... but I can't find any. Shipping on these for a single bike could be quite expensive and bring the price up to that of what we would normally expect for such a build... but still cheaper than similar builds by about a grand. No mention of regen braking on the listing, but easy enough to modify for.
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Post by rsilvers » Sep 07 2015 10:05pm

I paid $1200 surface shipping for a 600 lb machine that came in a crate that would hold at least four of these bikes.
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Post by amberwolf » Sep 10 2015 2:17pm

FWIW, I think I have seen some of those pics on their site in one of the threads here on ES. Possibly someone's build thread. If so, it would not be the first time a site like that has taken pics (and even ad copy) from somewhere else, and used them for their own product (assuming they actually even have a product at all).


FWIW, since this isn't a review or a test (unless you've purchased one and are going to post the results here) this doesn't belong in this forum, and I'll move it to ebike general if there is not going to be a review/test in it.

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Post by joe81 » Oct 21 2015 6:32pm

i contacted them and they say they will not deliver the bike within china. they could not say why there is this policy. also waiting time would be two months because they dont have the controller for it.

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Post by rider95 » Oct 22 2015 8:33am

Just a matter of time before a E bike like that will be much more common and the price will drop to the point were the Stealth bombers HPC and other high end builders will be pushed out as E bikes become more common and main stream , as for that ad for now beware .

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Post by MadRhino » Oct 22 2015 11:48am

rider95 wrote:Just a matter of time before a E bike like that will be much more common and the price will drop to the point were the Stealth bombers HPC and other high end builders will be pushed out...
They will be pushed UP, hopefully :wink:
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Post by AF7JA » Oct 22 2015 12:02pm

joe81 wrote:i contacted them and they say they will not deliver the bike within china. they could not say why there is this policy. also waiting time would be two months because they dont have the controller for it.
As was mentioned in another thread, there are commonly speed limits on e-bikes in many cities in China. The limits are applied to the device. These may be too fact to be sold in China.

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Post by d8veh » Oct 23 2015 9:23am

Something is definitely wrong. Smells of a bit of a scam, or at least a bit of poetic licence used in the ad. You won't get a bike from China with a Cycle Analyst attached! The photo clearly shows one.

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Post by Dauntless » Oct 23 2015 9:49am

rsilvers wrote:I paid $1200 surface shipping for a 600 lb machine that came in a crate that would hold at least four of these bikes.
So you got one. How is it?
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Post by joe81 » Oct 26 2015 5:07am

but what if i only want to use it for sports on a track. selling in china should be ok..?!

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Post by korpin » Oct 29 2015 10:01pm

looks like the same bike advertised as stealth bomber 50 KPH NOT MPH: http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/S ... 35791.html

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Post by meeki » Oct 30 2015 1:16pm

And yet another stealth bomber... :mrgreen:

http://m.aliexpress.com/item/32464551472.html

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Post by teaux » Nov 08 2015 5:47pm

I bought the raw frame. I'm pretty impressed with the quality and construction, and I'm excited to put it together. Full build below:


Front Suspension: DNM USD-8 dual crown - new black version (Amazon).
Rear Suspension: DNM Burner RCP-2 (the top bracket on the frame is adaptable for different lengths, but 110mm is probably optimal) (Amazon).

Battery: Custom construction. 32 x 10AH prismatic LiFePO4 in 16S 2P arrangement for a total of 48v (nominal), 20 AH. (Disassembled a battery I had from Gary Salo - Golden Motor Canada, upgrading the housing, busbars, and BMS).

BMS: High-Rate V5 BMS from PingBattery.

Motor: MXUS XF40 45H, 3T winding (Kinaye)
Wheels: 19" by 1.6" motocross rims (Kinaye)
Tires: Shinko 244 Dual Sport (Canadasmotorcycle.ca)
Controller: 18 fet Infineon (Kinaye)

Notes on the frame:

It comes with a square taper bottom bracket installed (seems this is a bit old-school, according to my local bike shop. They only had one crankset in stock that fit).
The plastic panels are attached with red anodized aluminum bolts which I think are kind of cheesy. I'm replacing them with black steel bolts and rubber washers.
The front and rear suspension fit perfectly, very easy installation.

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Post by joe81 » Nov 15 2015 1:37pm

let's see your build teaux

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Post by etard » Nov 15 2015 3:00pm

How much was it? Any pics of what you received?
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Post by joe81 » Feb 17 2016 9:47am

people here don't seem to be too enthusiastic about their china bikes!?

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Post by unclejam » Feb 25 2016 8:00am

Any more info Teaux? I'm considering ordering two of these and wondered what the wait was like for delivery / shipping cost / ease of ordering etc?
Anything you can share would be most appreciated. :D
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Post by ABritInNY » Mar 17 2016 3:15am

I don't know how I missed this particular thread, as it's EXACTLY the project I was also building (In my Bedroom lol) during, these months this post was active.
OK so I also bought just the EEB frame set (direct tho not thru em3ev) Dealing with the company was actually very easy, just as it's China there is an obv time difference and a small not terrible, peculiar language used but otherwise it was a easy to communicate what I wanted.
Controller * 18fet 65a lyen edition 4110
Shocks Zoom 680DH front and DNM air shock 200 * 55 rear
Leafmotor 1500w with 7sp derailleur
CAv3 Dash
Zoom hydraulic brake 203mm rotor
Custom 76v nom lifepo4 30ah 3c-8c with 60a-120a bms
and lots mor guess I should show my build pics in a thread.

Frame is awesome tho so far in testing, really feels solid at higher than usual speeds.
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Post by FF9F00 » Apr 29 2016 4:01am

rsilvers wrote:It has a CA on it - they don't seem to be cutting any corners.

http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/3 ... 8.8.IrGnkf
korpin wrote:looks like the same bike advertised as stealth bomber 50 KPH NOT MPH: http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/S ... 35791.html

OBVIOUSLY SMALLER MOTOR
I'm about to get my first electric bike and found your two posts by coincidence, so thanks for these links.
I have a couple of questions about these bikes though, and hope someone can answer.

How easy is it to charge these bikes while you are in a location far away from home?
Example usage: I want to travel some 53 Kilometers (32 miles), once there I would like to be able to park the bike take out the battery, get the battery and charger inside the local railway station and charge the battery there. And then continue driving some extra 40 kilometers or so.

This would require the bikes to give easy access to removing the battery, and hopefully the charger which accompany these bikes won't weigh 3 Kg and break my back in the process.
Are these bikes good for this purpose, or will I need some other type of electric bikes?


And I noticed one of these bikes have "72v 20ah lifepo4 lithium battery", while the other bike probably has a standard lithium battery pack. Will there be any complications in charging this "lifepo4" battry in my example usage? I heard something about it being extra annoying to charge a lifepo4 battery, but I don't know if there is truth to that.

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Post by friendly1uk » Apr 29 2016 4:12am

MadRhino wrote:
rider95 wrote:Just a matter of time before a E bike like that will be much more common and the price will drop to the point were the Stealth bombers HPC and other high end builders will be pushed out...
They will be pushed UP, hopefully :wink:
Yes, as they have become more popular the prices have risen for the average bike buy about a third in recent years. Figures taken from the dutch market.
bmsbattery sent me broken and incorrect stuff, and won't even talk to me about it.

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