150 volt 12 FET 4115 Crystalyte 5403 Kona Stinky

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Hey guys,

Just finished reassembling my bike with components as described in the title. I'd been riding it on the default (I presume... whatever came with the unpopulated controller board I got) parameters for a eb212 controller, but just now got a hold of a programmer cable. I set battery current to 60 amps and phase current to 180 amps and the increase in power is a little unnerving.

Quick question to anyone who's used 4115 fet controllers-- what is a reasonable limit to set on the battery and phase currents? My controller casing is getting noticeably toasty and I hope to use the controller for a while yet. Is there any way to avoid hitting the hard current cut-off, where I need to reset the throttle before the controller provides power again? Is this a timeout parameter?

I have a feeling the answers to those questions are on the forum somewhere and the purpose of the post wasn't really asking for help, more of a .. 'yay my bike works!' post :D
 
150v 180A phase, I believe the motor can pull more but the 4115 fets are very close to their limits. If you up the Amps to get rid of the cutoff, I believe the fets will fry.

I feed my 5404 laced in a 26" wheel 100v 280A phase, with an 18 fet 4110 that doesn't get warm unless I am climbing steep repeatedly and it never did hit the cutoff. I suppuse that if you feed a 5403 150v, it must be laced in a small wheel.
 
Thanks for the input MadRhino,

Actually I am using a 26'' wheel. My goal isn't really for torque and acceleration, but to have a reliable commuter. Although now that it's built I'm feeling the need for more power :D

Another reason I got a 5403 is because it's what was available.

I may build my 24 fet into a 150v controller with 4115 fets. Until then, I suppose I'm reducing the current a bit. Casing is uncomfortably warm to the touch after a top speed test. Even down-hill I could not reach full throttle before the hard cut-off kicked in.

*edit:

I reduced the current to 50a battery 150a phase thinking I was being conservative... then this happened

http://imgur.com/a/0msOR
 
I exploded a few controllers too. This motor is very power hungry. I use the 5404 on my big dirt bike. For a commuter I find it heavy and inefficient. My controllers are all 18 X 4110, beefed traces and set very high power. I charge 24s RC lipo to 104v.

What was your top speed with a 5403 at 150v ?
In a 26" wheel, I believe it wouln't be much faster than fed 100v with more power. Speed sagging, I mean when your motor does very much slower loaded than unloaded, is a major factor of stress on controller and efficiency loss IMO.

I've been commuting with cromotors on 2 bikes for the last 3 years, just replaced my cromotor V2 with a 11.4 Kv QS 205 H50 V3. It is cheaper and better, making a very fast and efficient commuter.
 
The fastest I got was 90 kph down a mild hill. Not very impressive. I agree, I think this will work better with 4110 fets. I'm fixing a 24 fet I have, and ordered a 18 fet sinewave controller.

Down the road, I will experiment with TO-247 size fets. Probably a 12 fet version infineon board. I will perhaps machine a heatsink that allows me to stagger the fets mounting so they fit on the board.
 
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