Brake can't reach the rotor mounted on front motor

Swe

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On my new front 14 mm hub motor with IS disc mount fork, I can't get standard shimano brake adapters to fit. If I use 180 mm rotor and adapter the brake will only be able to touch the edge of the rotor.

The fork has "lawyers lips" and the motor axle is 14mm. I have no normal wheel to compare with (maybe my fork is odd?) but I think the problem is that the 14 mm axle makes the center of the wheel axle to be off center enough to make this problem.

Is this a common problem or have I something very strange here?


I think my solution will be to but the brake adpter (IS to Post) upside down (making it to short) and then use longer bolts and a nut or similar as distance. And maybe I can file the inside of the fork edges to make the axle go a little deeper, but that will only give a mm or so.
 
I would call/write to the maker of the bike you have and tell them the situation. Is is a cargo bike or some other custom bike ?

Close up pictures here to show the problem, will be much better. Take pictures with a Real Camera, set the megapixels to 2mp or less.

Perhaps use a 160 rotor and some washers under the brake caliper / between the brake caliper and mount on the fork ? but not seeing pictures that is just a far out there guess.
 
Yes a cargo bike, bakfiets.

Your last idea about 160 mm adapter and washers was what I was thinking of (but need like 10 mm), but I felt that 180 mm adapter upside down was closer, but did not compare that much. There is a little difference in angle of how the caliper sits then but nothing extreme.

I can fix a picture of tomorrow.

Actually almost all thick axle hub motor should cause a slight offset from original center? But maybe most often it is just a couple of mm so it is no problem.
 
Looking like you got a standard 203mm adapter. Buy a rotor for it, or find the proper bracket for the rotor that you have.
 
I mean, instead of setting a bracket upside down and add 10mm of washers, it should be better to use a larger rotor that will make a better fit. Washers and spacers are not bad when little correction is required, but when you put a lot the brake alignment is not as reliable and might move pretty often. Also, you would have better brake with a larger rotor atop of a stiffer mount.
 
Here are som pictures describing. If I use the 203 mm adapter upside down I only need a couple of mm of spacer to make it fit good. Why not?

Picture of fork with 180 mm rotor:
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Picture of axle in fork. Should I file the edges of fork to get the motor further in? Or will it only make the fork weaker? Edit: yes I should, se my new post below.
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Picture of 180 mm adapter that should be the one to use since the rotor is 180 mm. But the caliper is too high upp and only touches the edge.
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Picture of 203 mm adapter upside down. The caliper is all the way in (too far), but with a few mm spacer it should get clearence to rotate.
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That looks sketchy as hell, Jesus. The fork leg, I mean. You expect it to handle all that torque with no problem or fatigue failure? Yeah, right...
 
That was the plan yes. 48V and 18-20A with two torque arms.

But sure it looked tiny when the fork and thick motor axle arrived... and you think it is crazy?
 
Swe said:
Should I file the edges of fork to get the motor further in? Or will it only make the fork weaker?

Well I can answer my own question, yes I should file it to fit all way in. See topics below:

https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=60065
and
https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=43786
 
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