Can you help me identify this batter connector?

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Can you help me identify this batter connector?

Post by thepuzzlemaster » May 09 2018 11:46pm

I have a 2017 model RadWagon by Rad Power Bikes, and I bought a BBSHD to install and remove the hub motor. I would like to use the same battery which came with the RadWagon and I would prefer to not cut the cable. Attached is a picture of the connector. What I would like to do is get a connector to go from the battery harness to an xt90. But I don't know what should be at the other end of that connector.

Anyone know what kind of connector that is? The round one in my hand.

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Post by Raisedeyebrows » May 10 2018 1:06am

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Re: Can you help me identify this batter connector?

Post by MadRhino » May 10 2018 7:08am

If I was the boss of the company that developed this connector...
The employee who named it cannon plug, would have been fired. :mrgreen:

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Post by thepuzzlemaster » May 10 2018 12:32pm

Awesome! That totally looks right! Thanks so much!

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Re: Can you help me identify this batter connector?

Post by fechter » May 10 2018 2:43pm

MadRhino wrote:
May 10 2018 7:08am

If I was the boss of the company that developed this connector...
The employee who named it cannon plug, would have been fired. :mrgreen:
Hmmm... I think his name was Cannon.
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Post by thepuzzlemaster » May 10 2018 2:44pm

It's really unfortunate they only seem to sell female cannon connectors :/

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Post by docw009 » May 10 2018 6:51pm

Seems to be a few male connector plugs on that website. Only 18G wire, but if you keep it short to the XT connector, you won't starve your BBS on voltage. Seems kind of silly going from 18G to a XT90.

Doing that would bother me. I would just take off the back of the Dolphin cradle, unscrew its two pin plug and connect a proper sized wire plus XT. Easily changed back to the original wiring if you can solder. I'd probably connect to the existing cable rather than the plug. Too easy to mess up the pins.
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Re: Can you help me identify this batter connector?

Post by thepuzzlemaster » May 10 2018 7:04pm

Hmm, I only saw universal 2-pin male connectors, not the cannon ones. Regardless, the 18G was rather disappointing to me as well. I hadn't considered taking apart the dolphin cradle and soldering the xt90 directly to the back of those pins. I like that idea much better, and as you say, I can still solder back the old connector if I ever want to in the future.

Thanks for the great suggestion!

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Post by ddk » May 11 2018 10:45pm

That's a Tuchel connector, commonly used as an audio connector. Cannon is just one of the many manufacturers of that type.
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Re: Can you help me identify this batter connector?

Post by Raisedeyebrows » May 12 2018 11:37am

ddk wrote:
May 11 2018 10:45pm
That's a Tuchel connector, commonly used as an audio connector. Cannon is just one of the many manufacturers of that type.
I want to start using the Rosenberger plugs in place of any XLR type connectors I have now, would like to find a source for them at a good price, never tried them but they look like something I'd like. I think the last Cannon type I had was on an old Cannon Hi-8 video camera I have buried in the garage somewhere.
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Post by rumme » May 12 2018 4:21pm

some solar panels use a connector like that also, to connect the panels in a string for higher amp output .

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Re: Can you help me identify this batter connector?

Post by ddk » May 12 2018 6:17pm

Raisedeyebrows wrote:
May 12 2018 11:37am
ddk wrote:
May 11 2018 10:45pm
That's a Tuchel connector, commonly used as an audio connector. Cannon is just one of the many manufacturers of that type.
I want to start using the Rosenberger plugs in place of any XLR type connectors I have now, would like to find a source for them at a good price, never tried them but they look like something I'd like. I think the last Cannon type I had was on an old Cannon Hi-8 video camera I have buried in the garage somewhere.
Raisedeyebrows wrote:
May 12 2018 11:37am
ddk wrote:
May 11 2018 10:45pm
That's a Tuchel connector, commonly used as an audio connector. Cannon is just one of the many manufacturers of that type.
I want to start using the Rosenberger plugs in place of any XLR type connectors I have now, would like to find a source for them at a good price, never tried them but they look like something I'd like. I think the last Cannon type I had was on an old Cannon Hi-8 video camera I have buried in the garage somewhere.
excuse me for going off topic here, but to answer (kinda) this query I will.

I'm assuming you mean the Rosenburger Power Data connector. While that connector can be had with up to a 60A rating @60V it remains a specialty connector that hasn't been widely adopted yet.
This determines price and for a specialty connector, it seems reasonably priced. But compared to the more widely used audio and data connectors the e-bike industry mainly uses, the Power Data connector system is insanely priced.
Mouser was one supplier I found via a quick search. Digikey and Luna being other sources.

I use a common audio connector for my power connections, the NL4 initialy developed by the manufacturer Neutrik.
-cost about $5 per connection, good for up to 40A DC if connections are paralleled thru the 4 connectors... rated for 30A (AC) per connection (x4). It has been adopted by most speaker and high-power amplifier manufacturers.
The big advantage to the NL4 connector is that the surfaces of the actual connectors are not exposed to inquiring fingers, connected or not.
I trust the NL4 connector in my situation where I use 30A or less controllers with my motors
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