I wasn’t aware they were in Taiwan that is a bonus I hate to make a genrization but quality is typically better their . I don’t think as far as battery is concerned with Bafang you can always add and build up your own unless the battery cavity of the bike your talking about for the the forward tube of the frame is not big enough. But it’s realy the quality of the cell that makes the difference seems like most of the development is going on in the 18650 cells since Tesla could buy or should I say make any cell they want.Bigwheel wrote: ↑Jul 19, 2018 11:42 pmEver since seeing an explanation of the M600 online I have been attracted to it like a moth to light. Basically for all the reasons mentioned including a conventional centere Q factor.
However I am moving forward beyond the 18650 cell to 21700’s and the frame above doesn’t work for that. As an aside it is cool that they offer a 340wh, iirc, and 600+wh option with a 1000wh battery in development.
I have been in contact with the company that makes this bike for awhile and they haven’t had a request for the use of the larger cells but are aware of them. It will be up to Bafang to make that move anyway.
In the meantime I am trying to feed them info on geometry especially as these bike are close but not totally in line with the current crop. Trying to get them to make a gravel bike type frame also that will fit up to 45c rubber. The one they list currently is up to 30c.
The beauty of it is that the manufacturer is based in Taiwan and the 25% tariff would not apply. For now anyway. I’m pretty sure though as described above the bikes will be fully sufficient and perform on par with any of the other similarly set up brands. With a throttle. I don’t use mine for more than starting off and helping to get the bike up graded to steep to ride and just for those reasons alone I’ll never have an eBike without one.
I would suggest you buy the frame and the Bafang M600 so price without freight is $799 frame and 650 for the Bafang Bike kit . Not sure what freight would be for that . I know if I order three complete bikes I can get a discount that covers most of the freight so the freight is only $50 each but I need one more bike for quantity three . I think the bikes with the Yari forks with nice grupo and carbon wheels would be about $3500 still getting confirmation estimate only . The quantity break is significant $700 off all three bikes . All this has been quoted on e mails since this is preproduction and they just became available yesterday . PM me with phone if you want to discuss .devo1223 wrote: ↑Jul 20, 2018 10:28 amThat looks awesome! Plus size tires are a must for me too. $800 shipped? I might have to pull the trigger on that. Do you have a link to that other ES post? I can't find it. Has anyone purchased a m600 yet? I'm looking for a good source. I'm guessing the supplier of this frame will sell me just the frame and motor?
Certainly that eagle would be a better choice if I was on a plain mountain bike with no electric . But in ordering a E bike you need to keep a eye on the total Costs of the grupo with Eagle does jump up . If I had total control of each part I could pick and choose . That would be a change of the derailleur with 12 speed not just the cassette change out but a powered e bike not a absolute requirement to have a eagle with e bike you can find a few eagles but usually not on e bikes now .But we’re dealing with a Chinese Manufactuer and every parts ordering gets criptic language barrier and all . It took several weeks for me to get quotes on just the shocks and I still didn’t get all the fork prices I want . I’m not even going to try to get a dropper post I would be better getting my own and own saddle . I’ve seen a lot of the Chinese manufacturers still using the cable switch on the outside of the dropped instead of the integrated one that runs through the bottom of the post . But I’m working it out . I currently shut down my e bike power and ride up hill s on my 8 speed and I’m fine with it just to get the excercise .ScooterMan101 wrote: ↑Jul 21, 2018 9:58 amsurfingjeff,
Not sure why you are going to use a 11-42 tooth cassette, ?
Sram Eagle NX cassette comes in a 11-50 .
https://www.sram.com/sram/mountain/prod ... e-cassette
Understood always will be new technology like Tesla but we’re talking about a Chinese Manufactuer of a bike here that already designed a frame to accommodate a18650 cell with the best available density choice is LG Samsung Panasonic . So unless we have total control of the battery tray / down tube size I really do not want to build a custom pack and install . I simply want to order the best off the shelf parts at reasonable price . The battery’s are much better now than just few years ago I finally replaced my 18 ahr lead acid battery’s all four of these 12 volts for a single tiny 60 volt LG 20 AHR 70mmx120mm x300 mm 5.4 kg battery to saved at least 30 pounds with very low voltage drop greater range now my scooter is too fast( wheely machine) and need to control the throttle with Grin Technology Cycle Analyst .AWD wrote: ↑Jul 21, 2018 3:21 pm"But it’s realy the quality of the cell that makes the difference seems like most of the development is going on in the 18650 cells since Tesla could buy or should I say make any cell they want. "
And that is why they made the Giga Factory and are looking to build another to make 2170, as they call them, cells. First introduced with the new Model 3 with other models being refit for their use for next model year.
https://www.teslarati.com/inside-tesla- ... n-battery/