Torp 11kW / 29kg mid drive electric free rider prototype

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Torp 11kW / 29kg mid drive electric free rider prototype

Post by efMX Trials Electric Freeride » Sep 16 2018 11:05pm

11 kW Electric Motor bike PROTOTYPE from TORP :

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• 11 kW peak power
• 29 kg with the low center of gravity
• 80 km hard off-road driving range
• 1,6 kWh removable battery
• fully configurable regenerative braking

https://evnerds.com/electric-vehicles/e ... from-torp/

production version coming soon, stay tuned for details .. 8)

http://www.torp.hr
https://facebook.com/TORPMotors/
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Re: Torp 11kW / 29kg mid drive electric free rider prototype

Post by skeetab5780 » Sep 17 2018 6:59am

I like it! I want to make something similar but dont have time to put my own thoughts into actions. Hopefully unlike LMX i will be able to obtain one here in the US...and hopefully it wont cost $10k

Looks very cost effective and lightweight. Im a big fan of the k.i.s.s builds!

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Post by srapy » Mar 03 2020 11:21am

Today the bike was released officially!

Looks really nice, but Battery could have more capacity :?

No pricing yet. 110km range... come on :lol:

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Post by efMX Trials Electric Freeride » Mar 03 2020 11:37am

aww you beat me to it.. cheers mate:)
8)
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Post by bionicon » Mar 03 2020 12:03pm

Wow nice lightweight bike, does anybody know what it will cost?
It looks a real fun machine, 29kg 15kw and 300nm torque on the rear wheel :D

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Post by srapy » Mar 03 2020 12:05pm

Here are little more infos: https://evnerds.com/electric-vehicles/e ... -dirtbike/ 7000€

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Post by efMX Trials Electric Freeride » Mar 03 2020 1:17pm

here's some eye candy from the article :

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Post by flat tire » Mar 06 2020 8:51pm

63.5 lbs.

I have to question whether this bike can actually deliver 1.8kWh while outputting 15kW at full throttle while meeting the weight and having a sturdy frame. At best, 1.8kWh has to be the nominal capacity, but even that leaves a lot of questions:

Even the best cells are just under 10lbs / kWh without packaging. How can you safely package a 1.8kWh battery (20+ lbs) with a motor deserving to have 15kw in the name, even intermittently, plus a frame, suspension, controller, wheels etc that can all withstand bumps and jumps and other stresses reliably?

The swingarm looks like it belongs at walmart. If that's how this thing is built, there is just no way. The specs have to be very, very optimistic.

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Post by efMX Trials Electric Freeride » Mar 06 2020 9:24pm

optimistic range is nothing new in the ev realm.. when I came here a few yrs back there was nothing in this genre, now it's a handful plus and growing.. (so try not to kick a gift horse too hard unless you plan to join the market..) looking forward to more testing and reviews soon ..
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Post by bionicon » Mar 10 2020 1:23pm

I think this is a big gamble of 7000 euros, that you pay for you have seen even one test of it. You have to believe their word that all these figures they give are correct. For example, I have never been able to drive 2.5 hours fast offroad with a 1.8 kwh battery and with a 15kw motor. You may still use the highest efficient motor and controller, but I still can't believe this.
They are going to have to prove these figures before I consider a purchase.

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Post by macribs » Mar 17 2020 6:11am

Within a month or two after the first bikes are shipped to customers I think we will start to see real world reviews, ride videos and possible side-by-side testing with other similar bikes, like sur ron, cake, otto bike mxr, revX and possible even neematic. Also some EV sites might be able to get invite to a test ride even before that.

When it comes to the overall weight, materiel choices are key factor. Aluminum, or magnesium alloy are so much lighter then steel and using the right dimensions for what they target could really yield a lot of weight savings. I saw Torp's prototype a few years back but have not paid much attention to them after the initial flow of news from the company. This is the first I read of their consumer ready product and all I can say is the made a lot of changes. Now they use a more cake-like frame. How this will impact the weight I have no idea, I don't even know what material they chose for the finished product.

I look forward to see the first real world 3rd party tests.

These are beautiful times we live in, well except from that corona hell.
More and more fun bikes are being developed, and already we have a decent selection of crossover bikes between mx/e-bikes/trail to choose from. And more are coming. Where are we in say 5 years? Do we by then have say a battery break trough, maybe we by then have doubled the range and a battery pack only take up half the size of current packs. The future looks bright for ev-freaks like us.

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Post by sn0wchyld » Mar 17 2020 11:14pm

subbed... saw this one on FB - 29kg at that battery and power level sounds a bit hard to believe, but hey, could happen. Personally more interested in the boxxbike as its a 'bike' too, but this doesn't look bad either. Personally I prefer the 'naked' version somewhat - is that an earlier model/version?

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Post by markz » Mar 18 2020 1:48pm

The bike looks like it will be very expensive.

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Post by Joe King1 » Mar 18 2020 10:21pm

63 lbs is possible.

An Exess HP-E180 w/Bafang Ultra, carbon fiber frame, bicycle wheels/tires, 10lb. battery weighs about 58 lbs. Considering the Ultra is about 15 lbs and if the Torp motor isn't a lot more, add heavier rims/tires & aluminum frame, it might be possible.

I hope this isn't a year or more away...I'm afraid many of us won't be around by then :cry:

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Post by markz » Mar 18 2020 11:00pm

oPTOMISTIC U R
Joe King1 wrote:
Mar 18 2020 10:21pm
I hope this isn't a year or more away...I'm afraid many of us won't be around by then :cry:

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Post by John in CR » Mar 20 2020 5:25am

7k euros and only comes in a kid's size judging from the photo...ridiculous.

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Post by flat tire » Mar 20 2020 5:59pm

Joe King1 wrote:
Mar 18 2020 10:21pm
63 lbs is possible.
Yeah but probably not with a bike that's safe to "free ride" with 15kw.

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Post by Joe King1 » Mar 20 2020 8:16pm

flat tire wrote:
Mar 20 2020 5:59pm
Joe King1 wrote:
Mar 18 2020 10:21pm
63 lbs is possible.
Yeah but probably not with a bike that's safe to "free ride" with 15kw.
They'll probably break as often as the <12lb. carbon-fiber road bikes that you hear about all the time :roll:

Btw...this comment was meant sarcastically...12lb. cf road bikes DON'T break..but people just THINK they should.
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Post by markz » Mar 20 2020 10:02pm

John in CR wrote:
Mar 20 2020 5:25am
7k euros and only comes in a kid's size judging from the photo...ridiculous.
It does look a tad small doesnt it.

The geometric lines dont please me eyes.

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Post by macribs » Mar 22 2020 9:06am

Well I hate to be the one to say this, but sometimes there are too much nay saying going on here. I remember when I first joined this forum, carbon frames was crazy and insane for ebikes, seemed to be the consensus.Nothing but pure steel would hold up. Well a few years in and it was available for all to purchase and I think one crazy well known forum member run a qs 273 in his rear wheel on that carbon bike. And we have seen aluminum frames too.

I am not taking a stand for the Torp, as I don't know anything more then what they released. But that weight numbers could be doable depending on what alloy they chose for the frame. Safe or not? I doubt any companies today will release a high powered bike without serious testing, jumping, riding, and thrashing the bike before putting it for sale. Also today everyone got access to advanced simulation software that can find weak spots on the design so that it can be dealt with.

If they put this one up for sale, with 15 kw peak power I think frame will take it. Otherwise major f-up on their part and that was all she wrote for the company. I remember the first steal e-bike frame I bought heavy as a pig. There was several footage of people claiming the frame split or didn't hold together. When I looked into it, it was one (1!) frame damaged in shipping that got replaced from manufacturer. By then I had already adapted a better safe then sorry policy and reinforced the frame with additional steel making it even heavier and less joyful to ride. A few years back I got slammed by a crazy lady in her big car on snowy roads, I was damaged and banged up pretty bad, bike was a not rideable. I could have salvaged the frame, and kept riding if I had put in a weekend or two replacing parts and maybe a little jigging or welding but by the time I healed there was a new kid in town, the sur ron. Albeit many people jumped in straight away a lot where also not sure how the bike, the frame, etc would hold up. I was still big and huskey when I got the sur ron, a little over the max rider weight back then but even ridden hard and jumped hard, dropped hard it holds up still. Less weight to carry these days and upgraded fork and rear shock but still, sur ron was all that it claimed to be.

I guess what I am trying to get across is lets not get carried away being all critical yet. Lets see what this bike can do when its released. It could be all marketing and hype or it could be a really great bike. Anyway. The most important thing is getting more players on board the e-bike/e-motorcycle train. That means more competition, more innovation and sooner or later even more competition in the sur ron price range. But we need players in the top tier too, and we are seeing more and more joining in. I love that.

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Post by efMX Trials Electric Freeride » Mar 22 2020 9:26am

:bigthumb:
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Post by Boom Storm » Apr 26 2020 3:00pm

markz wrote:
Mar 18 2020 1:48pm
The bike looks like it will be very expensive.
7000E is pretty darn good !?
IF it comes to fruition

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Post by scrambler » Oct 06 2020 7:36pm

Nice design.

It reminds me of the old Husqvarna prototype
https://www.topspeed.com/motorcycles/mo ... 27835.html

I hope they come up with an extended battery solution. 1.8kWh seems quite small for such a bike...

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Post by leisesturm » Oct 06 2020 11:23pm

"If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is ..." -anon.

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