Juiced CCX or ATOM Diamond Wave Pro for 20mile each way commute

Mark2457

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About Me
  • 6’2” (31.5 inseam). 260lb.
  • Reasonably handy, but can’t lace a wheel to save my life. Would love to learn how to true up wheels
  • Ride my Bianchi Milano (internal hub) on evenings and weekends (10-40 miles at a time).
  • Prefer internal hub to Derailleur

Goals
  • Commute to work 20 miles, sweat-free (no showers). Ride more aggressively home. Will carry laptop only (no power supply) and waterproofs.
  • Map: https://cycle.travel/map/journey/97549
  • Mostly flat: 200ft elevation change
  • Would like to get commute down to 75 mins.
  • Round trip on single charge (OK with more human power in commute home)

Uncertainties
[*]Rear hub vs mid-drive - Think I want rear hub vs mid-drive (concerned about strain and wear on chain, etc with mid-drive, esp as I’m a big guy)
[*]Do I need class 3? In my short test rides, pedal assist didn’t require much work to get to 18 mph
[*]Do I need throttle? Have to arrive at work sweat-free as there are no showers
[*]Is 250W mid-drive big enough
[*]How long will batteries be available? Would hate to find that bike is discontinued in 2 years and battery is dead

Plan
  • Ridden several eBikes: (see below) short list is down to CCX and ATOM
  • Renting an ATOM Diamond Wave Pro to do test commute on Friday as I’m off work.
  • Buy next week

Contenders(* = Not ridden yet)
Note: many of the cons are personal preferences/current opinions, not facts

[*]Atom Diamond Wave Pro - https://bhbikesusa.com/diamond-wave-pro/
[*]Evo City Pro https://bhbikesusa.com/evo-city-pro/
[*]* Juiced CCX - https://www.juicedbikes.com/products/crosscurrent-x?variant=12524629000215
[*]Trek Super Commuter+ 8S - https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/hybrid-bikes/electric-hybrid-bikes/super-commuter/super-commuter-8s/p/17297/?colorCode=red
Walleräng M.01/M.01X - https://www.wallerang.com/gb/10-modular-one-e-bike
[*]* 2017/2018 Stromer ST2 - https://www.kozy.com/product/stromer-st1-platinum-electric-bike-step-thru-23739.htm & https://www.bikeexchange.com/s/electric-power-assisted-bikes/stromer?sort-by=cheapest
[*]Surface 604 Rook/Colt - https://surface604bikes.com/

Atom Diamond Wave Pro
Pros
[*]Loved the Brose - super responsive, super quiet (250-530W)
[*]Nexus
[*]Nice adjustable stem
[*]Can get second battery for about 250
[*]Magura HS-11 Hydraulic Rim Brakes - easy to service and remove wheels
[*]Can buy locally
[*]Liked ride position
[*]Bluetooth Option (I think)
[*]Theft prevention option (I think)
[*]Battery Sleeve
[*]KLICKfix on rear rack
[*]Front suspension with lockout and preload
[*]BH is a real bike and fitness equipment manufacturer
[*]5 year warranty and 1 year labor
[*]Can pickup tomorrow

Cons
[*]Class 1 - no throttle
[*]Top speed 20mph
[*]Mid-mounted (con?)

Juiced CCX
Pros
[*]Class 3
[*]Seems to have best electronics and ride modes
[*]Has throttle
[*]Hydraulic Disc Brakes
[*]Great reviews
[*]Massive battery and range (52v/19.2Ah)
[*]Price - seems by far best value for money
[*]Optional fast charger

Cons
[*]Derailleur
[*]Can’t test ride
[*]No local dealer
[*]Not sure whether I need large or XL frame
[*]Lead times
 
Few tips after I've done my 13.5mi 1-way trips to the office. 1. You'll likely want a battery higher than 48v... Maybe 14-16s would be good? You'll also likely need over 1kw. To give you some idea, I'm a measly 155lbs and 5'6", Ive got a rear hub modded controller for 2000w. My bike tops out at 2kw but I easily hit my speed limit and top our around 28mph cruising. I can get round trip on my battery which is about 21aH... I would suggest though that over time this may still work but I may have to back off the throttle. I can do it from door to door with locking up the bike in about 45minutes so you'll want to average at least 25mph for your commute...getting a bike to top out around 35-40mph would be best IMHO.
 
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