Axiom: a 100kW+ motor controller

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TrifiveEV   10 µW

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Re: Axiom: a 100kW+ motor controller

Post by TrifiveEV » Oct 14 2020 2:29am

Arlo1 wrote:
Oct 13 2020 1:38pm
But at the end of the day this is a top notch product!
I hope it will be. I did look into the major component costs and yes, your hardware choices certainly make up a large portion of the price. The amount of robustness you have built into it with that hardware is what sells me; the cost of component failure down the track will eat up the purchase price in no time with lower quality equipment on high voltages.

The question was about other people's expectation of the cost, not the cost to build or sell it. My somewhat limited experience of EV enthusiasts is that cost is often the main factor in their component choices and this didn't match in my mind with the anticipated price of the equipment. If the average enthusiast cannot justify the cost then what is the chance that when I come to buy one they are no longer available due to lower than expected sales?

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Re: Axiom: a 100kW+ motor controller

Post by Arlo1 » Oct 14 2020 10:15am

TrifiveEV wrote:
Oct 14 2020 2:29am
Arlo1 wrote:
Oct 13 2020 1:38pm
But at the end of the day this is a top notch product!
If the average enthusiast cannot justify the cost then what is the chance that when I come to buy one they are no longer available due to lower than expected sales?
We don't have an expectation for sales numbers. We will grow this organically. We will build up 10 then sell them then build up 20 then sell them then build up 50 etc. Also if we get many people who want to put deposits down we will make sure we order enough parts to cover all of those deposits and a few more.

This is not going to be our last product. It is a product to showcase our skills. Our main focus at this point is consultancy work. Axiom is something we use to advertise with.

As for component choices. We have not made choices from price because as you said at these power levels we need to make sure reliability is number 1. Cost vs performance is number 2. Or something like that.
Does your project need a high performance motor drive, battery charger or other power electronics developed? Let's talk!
www.powerdesigns.ca
Leaf motor controller build. http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewto ... 27#p963227
YSR build http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRo8r5g4NBg
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Re: Axiom: a 100kW+ motor controller

Post by ray88 » Nov 12 2020 5:08pm

Arlo1 wrote:
Oct 14 2020 10:15am
TrifiveEV wrote:
Oct 14 2020 2:29am
Arlo1 wrote:
Oct 13 2020 1:38pm
But at the end of the day this is a top notch product!
If the average enthusiast cannot justify the cost then what is the chance that when I come to buy one they are no longer available due to lower than expected sales?
We don't have an expectation for sales numbers. We will grow this organically. We will build up 10 then sell them then build up 20 then sell them then build up 50 etc. Also if we get many people who want to put deposits down we will make sure we order enough parts to cover all of those deposits and a few more.

This is not going to be our last product. It is a product to showcase our skills. Our main focus at this point is consultancy work. Axiom is something we use to advertise with.

As for component choices. We have not made choices from price because as you said at these power levels we need to make sure reliability is number 1. Cost vs performance is number 2. Or something like that.
How do i put down a deposit for one of these controllers ? All i would really need is 200V and 400A max for and e-bike build to run and outrunner in FOC mode ! And the other big questions is , how much it would cost ?

Kind regards
Ray

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Re: Axiom: a 100kW+ motor controller

Post by Arlo1 » Nov 19 2020 3:04pm

ray88 wrote:
Nov 12 2020 5:08pm
Arlo1 wrote:
Oct 14 2020 10:15am
TrifiveEV wrote:
Oct 14 2020 2:29am
Arlo1 wrote:
Oct 13 2020 1:38pm
But at the end of the day this is a top notch product!
If the average enthusiast cannot justify the cost then what is the chance that when I come to buy one they are no longer available due to lower than expected sales?
We don't have an expectation for sales numbers. We will grow this organically. We will build up 10 then sell them then build up 20 then sell them then build up 50 etc. Also if we get many people who want to put deposits down we will make sure we order enough parts to cover all of those deposits and a few more.

This is not going to be our last product. It is a product to showcase our skills. Our main focus at this point is consultancy work. Axiom is something we use to advertise with.

As for component choices. We have not made choices from price because as you said at these power levels we need to make sure reliability is number 1. Cost vs performance is number 2. Or something like that.
How do i put down a deposit for one of these controllers ? All i would really need is 200V and 400A max for and e-bike build to run and outrunner in FOC mode ! And the other big questions is , how much it would cost ?

Kind regards
Ray
We are aiming at a $6500 USD price. 200V is a fail Zone for controllers try to run below 120vdc or above 350Vdc
Does your project need a high performance motor drive, battery charger or other power electronics developed? Let's talk!
www.powerdesigns.ca
Leaf motor controller build. http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewto ... 27#p963227
YSR build http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRo8r5g4NBg
Never above 4.2v never below 2.7v EVER!!!
Support me on Patreon. https://www.patreon.com/user/posts?u=6842045
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Re: Axiom: a 100kW+ motor controller

Post by mannberg » Nov 23 2020 7:00am

Anyone that has can-bus data from a axiom run and is willing to share?

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Re: Axiom: a 100kW+ motor controller

Post by hmf1235789 » Nov 25 2020 3:24am

​where can we find the FPGA code for this project?​

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Re: Axiom: a 100kW+ motor controller

Post by HighHopes » Nov 28 2020 9:40am

hmf1235789 wrote:
Nov 25 2020 3:24am
​where can we find the FPGA code for this project?​
FPGA code is not available, neither are the PCB gerbers
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Re: Axiom: a 100kW+ motor controller

Post by HighHopes » Nov 28 2020 9:42am

mannberg wrote:
Nov 23 2020 7:00am
Anyone that has can-bus data from a axiom run and is willing to share?
what do you want to know? CANbus running in AXIOM is programmed via VESC software which is open source so technically you can put any messaging you want, or change it or just learn every nouance you want.. basically all the measured data is put on CANbus
Does your project need a high performance motor drive? Let's talk!
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