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Re: Smartphone EV trip dashboard + NAV - Android/iOS - $99

Post by Powervelocity.com » Sep 03 2018 1:54pm

Raspberry can work but it's an overkill for the purpose. It would make the whole thing bulkier and more expensive. Pretty much any micro controller can work with screens, you don't have to have a Raspberry for that.

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What about pushing the app to a Raspberry PI with a $20 screen. That would totally rock.

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Post by bobmutch » Sep 03 2018 2:00pm

What about pushing the app to a "pretty much any" micro controller with "pretty much any" screen. That would totally rock. Have you considered doing that?
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Post by bobmutch » Sep 03 2018 2:33pm

Jestronix wrote:
Aug 29 2017 6:19am
Also My dream of cell monitoring up on the dash, without buying an Adaptto ? With alarms to boot :) getting carried away now :)
You can put cell monitoring on your dash now via BT or miniScreen from OliveLeaf's 8S-24S 300A Cont $99USD shipping in or 16S-32S 300A Cont $137USD shipping in (they are both on a 13% sale that is over today) the miniScreen is $15 extra.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Smart-D ... 69363.html

It would be nice if PV would start selling marketing these 2 BMSs with there products and add the stats from these to their dashboard app.
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Post by Powervelocity.com » Sep 03 2018 3:04pm

Yes, actually, there is some work on that already in progress.
bobmutch wrote:
Sep 03 2018 2:33pm
Jestronix wrote:
Aug 29 2017 6:19am
Also My dream of cell monitoring up on the dash, without buying an Adaptto ? With alarms to boot :) getting carried away now :)
You can put cell monitoring on your dash now via BT or miniScreen from OliveLeaf's 8S-24S 300A Cont $99USD shipping in or 16S-32S 300A Cont $137USD shipping in (they are both on a 13% sale that is over today) the miniScreen is $15 extra.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Smart-D ... 69363.html

It would be nice if PV would start selling marketing these 2 BMSs with there products and add the stats from these to their dashboard app.

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Re: Smartphone EV trip dashboard - Android/iOS - $99

Post by bobmutch » Sep 03 2018 4:34pm

Powervelocity.com wrote:
Sep 03 2018 3:04pm
Yes, actually, there is some work on that already in progress.
Cool.
bobmutch wrote:
Sep 03 2018 2:00pm
What about pushing the app to a "pretty much any" micro controller with "pretty much any" screen. That would totally rock. Have you considered doing that?
Is this in the works, or have there been consideration for a product like this. I can say your dashboard is with out question the best around that I have seen. If it could be pushed to some low priced hardware I would consider that a "killer app/hardware". One hardware screen -- monitoring and displayed information from the Controller the BMS the Battery and the Motor.
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Yes, plug and play with CA connector. Will post some pics soon.
Dimensions are 50mm x 23mm x 10mm. It's small.
I saw the CA JST6pin on the new BT. Does this mean this BT unit can be added to any Controller that has a CA connector and that will enable your Dashboard app to work to some degree with other controllers? So like Lynn or Kelly or Grin PR controllers?
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Post by Powervelocity.com » Sep 03 2018 5:02pm

Even though adding a dedicated display is very simple, I have been resisting doing that. Phone screen provides far better flexibility than any displays out there and, believe it or not, some people don't want any screens attached permanently to the handle bar.

The pinout for voltage, current and speed pickup is 100% compatible with the CA plug, so the Dashboard will work on any controller that has those outputs.
bobmutch wrote:
Sep 03 2018 4:34pm
Powervelocity.com wrote:
Sep 03 2018 3:04pm
Yes, actually, there is some work on that already in progress.
Cool.
bobmutch wrote:
Sep 03 2018 2:00pm
What about pushing the app to a "pretty much any" micro controller with "pretty much any" screen. That would totally rock. Have you considered doing that?
Is this in the works, or have there been consideration for a product like this. I can say your dashboard is with out question the best around that I have seen. If it could be pushed to some low priced hardware I would consider that a "killer app/hardware". One hardware screen -- monitoring and displayed information from the Controller the BMS the Battery and the Motor.
Powervelocity.com wrote:
Feb 26 2018 1:30pm
Yes, plug and play with CA connector. Will post some pics soon.
Dimensions are 50mm x 23mm x 10mm. It's small.
I saw the CA JST6pin on the new BT. Does this mean this BT unit can be added to any Controller that has a CA connector and that will enable your Dashboard app to work to some degree with other controllers? So like Lynn or Kelly or Grin PR controllers?
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Post by Powervelocity.com » Sep 20 2018 2:18pm

Because a few people requested this feature, we are adding the following via a software update in the next few days:

- 0 to 30 mph acceleration time measurement
- 0 to 60 mph acceleration time measurement

Voltage sag and amp peak measurement functions are also moved from the app to the module. That means you don't have to run the app to track those and it will always be available once you connect the phone.

Stay tuned.

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Post by MJSfoto1956 » Oct 11 2018 4:01pm

Powervelocity.com wrote:
May 07 2018 7:13pm
All new BT modules shipped after May 1, 2018 have external design.
Just to be clear: it would thus appear that one can use a PV controller with EITHER bluetooth OR cycleanalyst, but not both -- correct?

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Post by Powervelocity.com » Oct 11 2018 11:23pm

No. Both can be used at the same time. Just need the second CA connector if that's what you want to do.
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Powervelocity.com wrote:
May 07 2018 7:13pm
All new BT modules shipped after May 1, 2018 have external design.
Just to be clear: it would thus appear that one can use a PV controller with EITHER bluetooth OR cycleanalyst, but not both -- correct?

Michael

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Post by MJSfoto1956 » Oct 12 2018 6:57am

Powervelocity.com wrote:
Oct 11 2018 11:23pm
No. Both can be used at the same time. Just need the second CA connector if that's what you want to do.
Awesome! I assume one would just extend the existing 6 CA wires to another CA connector in parallel -- correct?
Any "gotchas" with both CA and BT running in parallel potentially "stepping on each other's toes" so-to-speak?

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Post by Powervelocity.com » Oct 13 2018 12:33am

No gotchas. It works.
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Oct 12 2018 6:57am
Powervelocity.com wrote:
Oct 11 2018 11:23pm
No. Both can be used at the same time. Just need the second CA connector if that's what you want to do.
Awesome! I assume one would just extend the existing 6 CA wires to another CA connector in parallel -- correct?
Any "gotchas" with both CA and BT running in parallel potentially "stepping on each other's toes" so-to-speak?

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Re: Smartphone EV trip dashboard + NAV - Android/iOS - $119

Post by MJSfoto1956 » Oct 14 2018 6:09pm

Speaking of the PV BT module, I notice on another thread that a poster had issues with using a Domino throttle with a PV controller (I am assuming he was not using the BT module as he mentions Cycle Analyst and thus I assume he has plugged his Domino directly into the PV controller). Specifically, he had to add an inline 470Ω axial resistor to keep the voltage down to 4.55V, otherwise, when the throttle delivered 5V the PV controller would shut down. QUESTION: if we hook a Domino throttle up to the PV Bluetooth module rather than directly into the PV controller, will we also need to use an inline 470Ω axial resistor? Or should it work "as is"?

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Post by Powervelocity.com » Oct 16 2018 2:49pm

Overvoltage on the throttle is normally an indication of a broken throttle and the controller is set to treat it that way for safety. Not a bug, it's a feature. Domino is using a potentiometer rather than a hall sensor, which means it outputs 0 to 5v in its range rather than 0.8v to 3.6v that a hal would output for the same input voltage. There are three ways to make it work:
1. Use resistors to adjust 0-5v to 0.8-3.6v
2. Run the throttle via the BT module
3. Run the throttle via the CA and adjust it.

MJSfoto1956 wrote:
Oct 14 2018 6:09pm
Speaking of the PV BT module, I notice on another thread that a poster had issues with using a Domino throttle with a PV controller (I am assuming he was not using the BT module as he mentions Cycle Analyst and thus I assume he has plugged his Domino directly into the PV controller). Specifically, he had to add an inline 470Ω axial resistor to keep the voltage down to 4.55V, otherwise, when the throttle delivered 5V the PV controller would shut down. QUESTION: if we hook a Domino throttle up to the PV Bluetooth module rather than directly into the PV controller, will we also need to use an inline 470Ω axial resistor? Or should it work "as is"?

Thanks!
Michael

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Re: Smartphone EV trip dashboard + NAV - Android/iOS - $119

Post by MJSfoto1956 » Oct 16 2018 3:14pm

Powervelocity.com wrote:
Oct 16 2018 2:49pm
There are three ways to make [a Domino Throttle] work:
1. Use resistors to adjust 0-5v to 0.8-3.6v
2. Run the throttle via the BT module
3. Run the throttle via the CA and adjust it.
Perfect!

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Post by MJSfoto1956 » Oct 16 2018 3:27pm

One more question: can the Domino Microswitch be used as the "trigger" for your PV cruise control function?

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Post by Powervelocity.com » Oct 16 2018 5:03pm

The cruise control works this way:
You get to the speed you need and you press the cruise button to lock that speed. Touching the throttle, brakes, or cruise button will disengage cruise.

The micorswitch on the Domino throttle engages at some 0-2% position of the throttle (when it's fully released), so I don't see how it can be used for cruise. It's designed to engage brakes and/or disengage throttle completely.

For cruise, you really need a dedicated button.
Some approaches I have seen is holding throttle for x seconds engages cruise but I think it's extremely unsafe. Talking about stuck throttle that engages when you don't want it to.


MJSfoto1956 wrote:
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One more question: can the Domino Microswitch be used as the "trigger" for your PV cruise control function?

Thanks!
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Post by MJSfoto1956 » Oct 16 2018 5:11pm

Powervelocity.com wrote:
Oct 16 2018 5:03pm
The microswitch on the Domino throttle engages at some 0-2% position of the throttle (when it's fully released), so I don't see how it can be used for cruise. It's designed to engage brakes and/or disengage throttle completely. For cruise, you really need a dedicated button.
Thanks a lot. That clarifies things a bunch.

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Post by \ (•◡•) / » Oct 20 2018 5:08am

Hey Vadym, Just wanna say thank-you for helping me calibrate this module via PM. Took my first ride with it and must say this thing is great, response time is excellent and the whole app is easy to use. Plus the new 0-30 and 0-60mph timer is a incredible thing to have, now we just need a optional leader-board for this feature? :lol:, just kidding of-course but I must say i'm really surprised how great the dash is on a phone, I've now completely removed my CAv3 in exchange for my phone.

I do however have a question after using the module, I haven't been able to get my regen button working yet, I have checked the actual push button i'm using works and that it's wired correctly into the BT module, everything looks okay but i'm still not getting any regen at all, any ideas what could be wrong?

Cheers, and keep up the great work Vadym.


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Re: Smartphone EV trip dashboard + NAV - Android/iOS - $119

Post by MJSfoto1956 » Oct 22 2018 7:22am

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An overview of latest version of the app.
Damn fine work. A+

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Post by Powervelocity.com » Oct 22 2018 2:20pm

Great to know it works well for you. The leader board is not out of the question.

To make the regen work, please connect your brake switches/ button directly to the EBS- on the controller for now.
The brake input on the module is meant to to detect the braking event and is reserved for future functionality.
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Hey Vadym, Just wanna say thank-you for helping me calibrate this module via PM. Took my first ride with it and must say this thing is great, response time is excellent and the whole app is easy to use. Plus the new 0-30 and 0-60mph timer is a incredible thing to have, now we just need a optional leader-board for this feature? :lol:, just kidding of-course but I must say i'm really surprised how great the dash is on a phone, I've now completely removed my CAv3 in exchange for my phone.

I do however have a question after using the module, I haven't been able to get my regen button working yet, I have checked the actual push button i'm using works and that it's wired correctly into the BT module, everything looks okay but i'm still not getting any regen at all, any ideas what could be wrong?

Cheers, and keep up the great work Vadym.

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Re: Smartphone EV trip dashboard + NAV - Android/iOS - $119

Post by \ (•◡•) / » Oct 22 2018 3:22pm

Powervelocity.com wrote:
Oct 22 2018 2:20pm
Great to know it works well for you. The leader board is not out of the question.

To make the regen work, please connect your brake switches/ button directly to the EBS- on the controller for now.
The brake input on the module is meant to to detect the braking event and is reserved for future functionality.
Oh sure, will do.
Thank-you

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Re: Smartphone EV trip dashboard + NAV - Android/iOS - $119

Post by davideserin » Oct 24 2018 3:18pm

Hello, how can i buy the module? I have a Phaserunner and simply want to temperature rollboack on the motor without having a big CA display on the handlebars.


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