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Post by Ghost Rider » Nov 05 2018 7:20am

ScooterMan101 wrote:
Oct 14 2018 6:30am
People , buy these frames,

so that Artur can start selling frames ( light frame ) with a better swingarm, and with the main frame that has the opening on the side ( not bottom ) for the batteries , so that we can take out the battery pack each ride .
ScooterMan101, have you considered just buying the Typhoon frame instead of the light frame? Because It's not that heavy. Right now I use it as a bicycle (no motor or battery), and it pedals fine, even uphill. I use a 200mm rear shock with lock out, to keep it stiff when pedaling uphill.
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Post by ScooterMan101 » Nov 05 2018 3:05pm

Ghost Rider,

I have looked at all the e-bike frames available that I know of about 7 + of them when you look at the different vendors of e-bike frames.

The Typhoon frame is 12 kg .
That is 6 kg more than the Storm frame. ( so 13 pounds heavier

There is another frame available from another vendor at 10 kg that I will not mention because this thread is about the Vector Light ( Storm ) Frame. And besides , I like the Storm frame small look better than the others that look like motorcycles.

Of all the Frames available from all the other vendors I like the the Storm frame the best ( except for the better swingarm on the F.U.T.R. beta, but the Beta is heavier than the Storm and very expensive for what it is , Vector / Artur lists the Storm Frame at 5.9 kg .

I do not have a heavy 15 or 20 pound rear hub motor, I have a 9.5 pound rear hub motor and will be getting a RC motor drive system in the future,
So
The light weight of the Storm frame is important to me.

And now that Artur has put the price at $299 euro / $ 349 USD
It is the Frame I would most likely buy ... once he does a few improvements, and / or offers me a updated version of the Storm once the Mfg. ships that version to him, and he can sell the newer version at a price that is the same or less , or one for testing and a review .

I know that a good frame can be made that weighs in at 5kg, I have an Enduro frame from Santa Cruz that weighs less than 4 kg including the rear shock, so I know it can be done , 5-5.5 kg for a frame like the Storm.

I really want to buy one , but have thought the improvements on the Storm frame would have been done by this time.

Please have Artur tells us when a newer version will be available.





Ghost Rider wrote:
Nov 05 2018 7:20am
ScooterMan101, have you considered just buying the Typhoon frame instead of the light frame? Because It's not that heavy. Right now I use it as a bicycle (no motor or battery), and it pedals fine, even uphill. I use a 200mm rear shock with lock out, to keep it stiff when pedaling uphill.
My first conversion ... Sold

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=71378&p=1077497&hil ... 1#p1077497

It's 2018 already, lets get some real , improved e-bike / e-velomobile / e-motorcycle designs .

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Post by Skaiwerd » Nov 06 2018 7:22pm

I see your points scooterman101.
I went to 27.5” 50mm rims and 3” tires and it’s hard to think of going smaller now. Maybe like apple keep the basic frame as it is now for a basic ebike and offer a more advanced version like a “pro” or builder series, more usually costs more but worth it in most cases. A little room or length added to the swingarm in front of the rear tire would be nice. Seems from the forum some mid drive motors are being directly mounted to the swingarm. Qs motors has some nice mid drive scooter conversion motors in the 1000w-3000w range that look promising. Probably the 1000w is the right size for this smaller frame. Hoping someone tests one out soon and posts about it.

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Post by ScooterMan101 » Nov 07 2018 11:25am

I am also looking again at mid drive motors that are mounted to the Swingarm, Left side, these will have to be more higher power motors since on the left side we can not use different gears and a derailleur.

Although it would be fun to see someone develop a mid-drive swingarm made in such a way as to use a few gears/cogs and a derailleur on the left side and only one gear/cog on the right side ...that has a freewheel of course , so that we can have the best of both worlds . Meaning being able to not have to peddle sometimes while still having 3-7 or 9 gears ... on the left side for different speeds with the ability to climb up steep mountains while also the ability for better speeds with the smaller cogs.
This is all possible with a 148 mm wide or so dropout area on the swingarm. Wheel would sit different in the swingarm than current right side drive systems , and will be done with the swingarm designed for it.
A whole new approach I have not seen yet.

What allot of people do not think about is the fact that during any ride up to 20 % of the time is , Not , spent Peddling. That time is spend freewheeling and/or coasting to a stop .

Back to the current Storm/Light Frame Design ...
The Main part of the Storm/Light frame is OK, However I am still thinking about how it will have to be modified in order to be able to easily and quickly , install and take out the batteries for each ride .
Not easy to engineer a solution , since Vector made the opening on the underside of the main frame.
Which is one of two big reasons I have not bought a Storm/Light Frame from Vector yet.

We really need to hear from Vector / Artur , about improvements on the Storm/Light Frame.
My first conversion ... Sold

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=71378&p=1077497&hil ... 1#p1077497

It's 2018 already, lets get some real , improved e-bike / e-velomobile / e-motorcycle designs .

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Post by calfeetwenty » Nov 09 2018 2:18pm

Arthur.......….Your BMS says 150 amp max. Is that 150 amp continuous? What are the peak and the continuous amps?


I need to order a few things and I need to know so I can decide whether to include this in the order.
Electra 7D/BBSHD, 24 spd hybrid drive 52 volt....mods coming
Electra 7D Fat/Mxus 3000 Turbo, 72 volt.
Paratrooper Pro/BBS02/Alfine 8, 52 volt...back to regular bike
KMX Trike 1500 Edge 72 volt
Luna Cargo/ possible 2wd...on the back burner again
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Post by Artur » Nov 15 2018 11:43am

calfeetwenty wrote:
Nov 09 2018 2:18pm
Arthur.......….Your BMS says 150 amp max. Is that 150 amp continuous? What are the peak and the continuous amps?


I need to order a few things and I need to know so I can decide whether to include this in the order.
it is 100A cont, and 150A peak. on my bikes i set bat current to 35% of phase and phase to 300a. I had no problem with bms.

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Post by Artur » Nov 15 2018 11:46am

ScooterMan101 wrote:
Nov 07 2018 11:25am
I am also looking again at mid drive motors that are mounted to the Swingarm, Left side, these will have to be more higher power motors since on the left side we can not use different gears and a derailleur.

Although it would be fun to see someone develop a mid-drive swingarm made in such a way as to use a few gears/cogs and a derailleur on the left side and only one gear/cog on the right side ...that has a freewheel of course , so that we can have the best of both worlds . Meaning being able to not have to peddle sometimes while still having 3-7 or 9 gears ... on the left side for different speeds with the ability to climb up steep mountains while also the ability for better speeds with the smaller cogs.
This is all possible with a 148 mm wide or so dropout area on the swingarm. Wheel would sit different in the swingarm than current right side drive systems , and will be done with the swingarm designed for it.
A whole new approach I have not seen yet.

What allot of people do not think about is the fact that during any ride up to 20 % of the time is , Not , spent Peddling. That time is spend freewheeling and/or coasting to a stop .

Back to the current Storm/Light Frame Design ...
The Main part of the Storm/Light frame is OK, However I am still thinking about how it will have to be modified in order to be able to easily and quickly , install and take out the batteries for each ride .
Not easy to engineer a solution , since Vector made the opening on the underside of the main frame.
Which is one of two big reasons I have not bought a Storm/Light Frame from Vector yet.

We really need to hear from Vector / Artur , about improvements on the Storm/Light Frame.
we dont have in plans to change the frame now. you can connect battery to lower frame cover and remove it with battery if you need it.

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Post by ScooterMan101 » Nov 16 2018 10:33am

Artur,

I have thought about making a hinge on the top part of the lower cover, then less screws/bolts down the sides, and have plates inside the upper frame with nuts epoxied/glued to them for better holding strength .
And also make a tray that holds the batteries , that would sit on the inner side of the lower cover , that would slide off of the lower cover when I unbolt the lower bolts and let the lower cover hinge downward. I can also use velcro on the batteries and lower cover to hold the batteries in place.

However,

I keep seeing the 35cm max rear tire radius, I have a 27.5 inch wheel so that is 5 mm too short for my street tires, and about 15 mm too short if I would want to put 2.35 inch dirt/downhill tires on it, so I could only use the frame for street use . ( Unless you start making a Replacement Rear Swing Arm that will bolt up to the existing front frame )

My rear hub has 135mm dropout spacing,
And I want to stay with 68-73 mm Bottom Bracket wide at most, not 83 or 100 wide since all my cranksets are 68 or 73 mm wide ( Shimano Hollowtec II Cranksets ).
so

The main problem for me ( and many people ) , is the rear swing arm,

If I could use a rear air shock that has about 140-160 mm of travel , and a Front Fork that has about the same amount of travel about 150mm-160 mm of travel, and keep the bike with a slack steering angle or even slacker , then the frame could have possibilities .

The Rear Air Shock that I already have now is 160mm travel with a 200mm eye to eye length size. And I have a 150 mm travel front fork on another bike I could use. What would those do to the frames geometry ?

Slacken or the reverse ?

How are the pieces now fitting together ? as I have read here on E.S. that people have been having problems with rear and front frame fitting together properly .
My first conversion ... Sold

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=71378&p=1077497&hil ... 1#p1077497

It's 2018 already, lets get some real , improved e-bike / e-velomobile / e-motorcycle designs .

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Post by devo1223 » Nov 20 2018 12:22am

cool video, thanks
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Post by Skaiwerd » Nov 26 2018 6:30pm

AND

The typhoon frame is the same price $349 for USA

Updates for spring?

http://www.vectorebike.com/componentsss/vector-frame

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Post by Artur » Nov 26 2018 6:37pm

What do you mean?

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Post by Artur » Nov 28 2018 4:31pm

I think you all know, but just in case, we have around 15 out of 50 bike preorders left. I would preffer people from forum get those ebike-deals.

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Post by MarkUA » Dec 19 2018 5:46pm

Artur wrote:
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Hello Arthur!
I'm seeking my new full suspension frame for next season to replace my hardtail based on Cannondale Cujo (as a donor).
I need full suspension frame, and rear shock, I already have a BBSHD (68/73mm version), 27.5+ wheels, many different tires, fork, battery, etc. Maybe I need to buy another fork, instead of my Manitou 120mm travel.
On this picture, It looks like you tested Light frame with BBSHD with stock primary 46T. So I have a questions:
1) It's a normal, or fatbike version?
2) As I understand, only fatbike version can fit 27.5+ wheels, right? I want to use a 142/148mm rear wheel width.
3) If I order the frame with fatbike rear swingarm, as I understand, it have a 100mm BB, so my BBSHD won't fit? If so, can I use a angle grinder and cut "excess" metal, to fit my 68mm BBSHD?
4) If I need to recently disconnect battery from bike, to charge at my work, how long/difficult this operation?
5) Can you ship this to Ukraine? It is very desirable using EMS or any other mail except DHL? DHL works very poorly in my country, parcels often go for 2 months and often get lost. EMS from Germany always come in a ~1 week. Or, alternative way, I can give the address of a warehouse in Germany, a good company of an intermediary, which delivers parcels to Ukraine.
6) Can you write the amount of ~137 euros on the invoice package? Of course, I will pay the full price.

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Post by Artur » Dec 19 2018 5:51pm

I will make video review on this bike tomorrow if I can so I explain many questions :-)

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Post by MarkUA » Dec 20 2018 7:42pm

Artur wrote:
Dec 19 2018 5:51pm
I will make video review on this bike tomorrow if I can so I explain many questions :-)
Thank you, Arthur!
As I see, you are a person who hears his clients, and I hope your frame will suit me and we can deal!
Also, I forgot to ask about geometry and weight. I have a height of 192 centimeters, my weight is about 110kg.
I plan to use this bike in 3 scenarious:
- as a bike for everyday trips to work and around the city, possibly with a backpack, not very heavy.
- as a mountain electric bike, driving off-road, cross-country, without excess weight, aggressive overcoming obstacles.
- hang bags and go on tourist trips at ~ 50 kilometers from the city, riding style is calm, so it must bear my weight with a reserve.

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Post by MarkUA » Dec 22 2018 6:09am

Artur wrote:
Dec 19 2018 5:51pm
I will make video review on this bike tomorrow if I can so I explain many questions :-)
Good weekends Arthur, you not forget to make a video?

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Post by Artur » Dec 23 2018 4:06am

Contact my friends from Ekross in Ukraine, they will make bike foe you :-)

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Post by Dumsterdave » Dec 24 2018 2:26am

Artur wrote:
Dec 19 2018 5:51pm
I will make video review on this bike tomorrow if I can so I explain many questions :-)
I'd like to see this video as well.

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Post by Artur » Dec 24 2018 3:06am

Right now in Ukraine, working on ebikes manufacturing for Black Friday sale.

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Post by MarkUA » Dec 24 2018 11:20am

Artur wrote:
Dec 23 2018 4:06am
Contact my friends from Ekross in Ukraine, they will make bike foe you :-)
This is for me, as I understand?
If so, I don't need this. I am interested in not only riding, but also assembling my own transport. For simply "buy and go" I already have a Hyundai Tucson ) Also I never paid a 1600$ for weak battery for 50km, hub motor, and Suntour fork. I do not consider options with a hub motor for myself, because I like to ride out of the city to Ukrainian hard off road places. Also, I already have much better fork 100mm travel certified for e-mtb from Manutou, battery, brakes, different tyres, and BBSHD motor. And not need to buy the another ones.
So, I interested only for frame, rear suspension, and maybe later - fork for much long travel. I am thinking of ordering them from you, but I don’t have a clear understanding of whether this would fit for me.
Later, maybe, I like to assemble a new battery with LG 21700 cells, as I understand you light frame for 90x115x440mm will fit near ~120 cells, so I can make a 9p13s battery with 21700, and this is 45Ah 48v ~9kg battery, that can drive me near 140km at 30km/h. Right now I'm using a Boston Swing cells, which is great at winter with Suomi 27.5x3.0 studded tires.
As I understand, you have some business in Ukraine, Ternopil city? Maybe you know Eleyus factory? My wife worked as head of their branch in Kharkiv city.

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Post by Artur » Dec 24 2018 11:41am

Send me your phone in pm, I'll give you a call since I am in Ukraine now. :-) thank you

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Post by Alex Imreh » Feb 17 2019 8:52am

Storm pack size: 1# the mouth where the pack can be introduced bellow the frame is 445x90 but the size inside is bigger. 2# if pack is square, if the pack is introduced by sliding a little through the mouth than the length can be 480mm. 3# i guess the pack can be introduced by disassembling the rear end of the battery box, not through the bellow mouth. Easy to put 5 cells per width even with holders, but for 6 cells on the width need to cut or take down the screws that fix the lateral plates. So inside compartment is 90x480x110, can make 13s9p even with cell holders. I have a question, is there any possibility to change the frame to be same width but bigger height of 140 instead of 115? To have 2 packs/layers of 18650 one above the other?? That could mean 13s18p, with an efficient motor like Bafang BBS, it would be ideal bike for me. Maybe new design could also improve the line, the geometry and the resistance at BB? All that would make this frame ideal for me, considering also the good price.
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Post by Rix » Feb 28 2019 10:49pm

Artur wrote:
May 07 2018 3:00pm



Around the 5:30 mark on this vid, did the vortex run out of power due to the steepness of the hill?

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