9 FET 72V Infineon Brushless Controller (LYEN's Edition) $89

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Re: 9 FET 72V Infineon Brushless Controller (LYEN's Edition)

Post by Frank16 » Oct 25 2012 9:47am

I can't figure out if it is possible to connect BOTH a (digital) PAS sensor AND (a throttle OR a 6 position LED controller panel)

My current 250W standard controller allows me to turn everything on, step on the bike and paddle away. The PAS then turns on the power to the motor and a 6 position control panel sets the cruise speed. The Infineon type of controller seems to work differently and I can't figure it out.

Any help welcome.
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Re: 9 FET 72V Infineon Brushless Controller (LYEN's Edition)

Post by ebiker1 » Nov 03 2012 2:03pm

i think i read you saying somewhere not to try programming a controller if you don't know what you're doing. is this true? if so, what knowledge is necessary to program one of your controllers? i'm new to ES but have read a lot of people that are using your controllers. another plus is that you use infineon and they are the best for waterproofing. i live in seattle and that is very important to me because i have to ride rain or shine.
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Re: 9 FET 72V Infineon Brushless Controller (LYEN's Edition)

Post by Allex » Nov 09 2012 6:17pm

Does anybody know how to connect the ignition switch to this controller?
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Post by Ykick » Nov 09 2012 7:41pm

Allex wrote:Does anybody know how to connect the ignition switch to this controller?
Loose red wire looks like the one to connect to switched power from battery +
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Post by lollandster » Jan 16 2013 3:54am

When I bought this controller a few weeks ago you said on your original post
Lyen wrote:I have only 30 made since I am busy working on my other ebike projects.
Now it says
Lyen wrote:I have only 33 made since I am busy working on my other ebike projects.

Are you willingly deceiving us to sell faster?
Lyen wrote:Quantity is limited, buy it now and upgrade later once your piggy bank is filled up if needed.
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Re: 9 FET 72V Infineon Brushless Controller (LYEN's Edition)

Post by Boeckstyns » Jan 16 2013 4:50am

lollandster wrote:When I bought this controller a few weeks ago you said on your original post
Lyen wrote:I have only 30 made since I am busy working on my other ebike projects.
Now it says
Lyen wrote:I have only 33 made since I am busy working on my other ebike projects.

Are you willingly deceiving us to sell faster?
Lyen wrote:Quantity is limited, buy it now and upgrade later once your piggy bank is filled up if needed.
Lol. So he had time to finish 3 more even while he is busy working on his other ebike projects. That wouldn't be scamming... And by the way I think the limited edition scam works better the other way where you lower the amount of items in stock so people think they have to really hurry to get one.

I would say you got it all mixed up there. And you got your product at a price you were willing to pay so what's the problem anyways?

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Re: 9 FET 72V Infineon Brushless Controller (LYEN's Edition)

Post by lollandster » Jan 16 2013 5:09am

Boeckstyns wrote:Lol. So he had time to finish 3 more even while he is busy working on his other ebike projects. That wouldn't be scamming... And by the way I think the limited edition scam works better the other way where you lower the amount of items in stock so people think they have to really hurry to get one.

I would say you got it all mixed up there. And you got your product at a price you were willing to pay so what's the problem anyways?
You seem very defensive, did I offend you in any way?

Having gotten around to make small number of extra units is a valid excuse.
And I never used the word 'scam' because that would be absolutely the wrong word for it, just misleading marketing.
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Post by Boeckstyns » Jan 16 2013 6:24am

No no. Not defensive in any way. I just couldn't understand the problem. And had a bit of spare time to write a meaningless post.
No harm intended. Cheers

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Post by lollandster » Jan 16 2013 7:09am

Cheers
On the positive side I may inform that I tried the controller on both 36v 12s LiFePO4 and 74v 20s LiPo and you can jump between them without changing anything and that is neat. I'm also glad of course that the 9Fet is still for sale because it is a good controller that kept cold while pushing 3kw into the SmartPie until I had to stop in fear of burning the motor (reached 110'C inside the motor). Youtube video
The shunt value seams to be off though.
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Re: 9 FET 72V Infineon Brushless Controller (LYEN's Edition)

Post by k-harvey » Jan 16 2013 10:23pm

could one work on 24v cyclone 500w+ as the internal ones often fail, 3 out of about 9 that i suplied .Also then theres the throdle to make fit

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Post by k-harvey » Jan 18 2013 1:07am

& does price include a throttle or freight & there is no spell check that i can find .

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Post by NeilP » Jan 18 2013 4:42am

lollandster wrote:Cheers
The shunt value seams to be off though.
Seem to remember that Ed gives you a shunt value based on the value of the manufacturer given value. Off the top of my head, I think they are 4 MilliOhm shunts, so 4 in paralel will give you a quoted value from Lyen of 1 MilliOhm.

But all things have manufacturing tollerences, so if you are setting up a CA with the shunt value, then using 4milli Ohm per shunt and workign out your value based on the number of shunts will give you the 'spec' figure.
Depth of the shunt inserted in to the board, amount of solder flow up the leg, manufacturign tolerances will all give a fractionally different value.

If you want it more accurate then you will need to experiment yourself, with an external current reference.
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Re: 9 FET 72V Infineon Brushless Controller (LYEN's Edition)

Post by lollandster » Jan 18 2013 5:04am

NeilP wrote:
lollandster wrote:Cheers
The shunt value seams to be off though.
Seem to remember that Ed gives you a shunt value based on the value of the manufacturer given value. Off the top of my head, I think they are 4 MilliOhm shunts, so 4 in paralel will give you a quoted value from Lyen of 1 MilliOhm.

But all things have manufacturing tollerences, so if you are setting up a CA with the shunt value, then using 4milli Ohm per shunt and workign out your value based on the number of shunts will give you the 'spec' figure.
Depth of the shunt inserted in to the board, amount of solder flow up the leg, manufacturign tolerances will all give a fractionally different value.

If you want it more accurate then you will need to experiment yourself, with an external current reference.
Thanks, quoted shunt value was 2mohm but I think actual value is much lower. I will do a comparison with my Grin Tech shunt when I get the jst-sm plugs I'm waiting on. And maybe also do a comparison against my multimeter.
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Re: 9 FET 72V Infineon Brushless Controller (LYEN's Edition)

Post by lollandster » Jan 20 2013 11:32am

I have now measured the shunt against both the precision shunt from grin tech and my multimeter and I'm positive that the actual shunt value is 1.36 mOhm
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Post by NeilP » Jan 20 2013 3:40pm

How many shunts in parallel in the 9 FET? have not had a 9 FET controller.
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Post by lollandster » Jan 21 2013 3:31am

The controller isn't in a position where I can easily open it unfortunately. Last I opened it I forgot to take a picture.
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Post by NeilP » Jan 21 2013 4:10am

No worries.

What i meant by 'Stated value of the shunt" was the nominal value of each individual shunt wire. I think they are produced as 4milli ohm shunts..so two in parallel would make about 2 milliohm.
But it only needs for them to be inserted a bit deep in the board, or for the solder to creep up them a bit, / between them/ manufactuering tollerences to reduce the 2 milliohm nominal value, I guess should be the 'correct value' to the 1.36 you measured.

Just found an e-mail from Ed lyen about the shunt values..and yes..4 Milliohm per shunt wire
Ed Lyen (excerpt from e-mail to NeilP) wrote: The is a total of four shunt bars inside the 18 FET controller connected in parallel with the value of 4mohm each. 4mohm parallel 4 shunts = 1mohm.

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Re: 9 FET 72V Infineon Brushless Controller (LYEN's Edition)

Post by bowlofsalad » Mar 01 2013 10:21pm

I think it would be useful, even as an optional upgrade, to include the ability to have a brake light turn on/off when the ebrake is pulled. Allowing a brake light to function like a car's brake light does.

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Re: 9 FET 72V Infineon Brushless Controller (LYEN's Edition)

Post by NeilP » Mar 02 2013 3:45am

Not possible I believe without external circuitry, these boards, I am nearly 100% sure, do not have this option on the board itself. YOu will need to do it yourself externally. This goes for all the Infineon boards, as far as aI am aware
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Re: 9 FET 72V Infineon Brushless Controller (LYEN's Edition)

Post by Secret1511 » May 29 2013 7:40am

I have the Lyen 9 fet and i am running it at 50amp with a 12s2p lipo 25c.
It's a monster! 35Mph flat. The controller is getting warm but not hot.
Lyen did a mod to it.

Lyen what is the max. amps i can run it?
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Re: 9 FET 72V Infineon Brushless Controller (LYEN's Edition)

Post by miuan » Jun 19 2013 9:21am

bowlofsalad wrote:I think it would be useful, even as an optional upgrade, to include the ability to have a brake light turn on/off when the ebrake is pulled. Allowing a brake light to function like a car's brake light does.
Just connect the neg. supply wire of your brake light to the yellow brake wire, and the positive to an external supply with common ground with the controller, it should work. Don't pull too much current though, most brake switches are rather tiny. Alternatively, use a relay or fet to switch the light power on.

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Re: 9 FET 72V Infineon Brushless Controller (LYEN's Edition)

Post by ohfeel » Jul 26 2013 11:23am

Do this contoller support the cruise function ?? Cruise fuction of my controller do not work.!~
Of course, I configured the cruise time to 1 second by the pc program.

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Re: 9 FET 72V Infineon Brushless Controller (LYEN's Edition)

Post by Mic » Sep 01 2013 5:33am

Is it possible to program the LVC to 59V ? (at 18S LiPo)

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Post by lollandster » Sep 01 2013 2:05pm

Mic wrote:Is it possible to program the LVC to 59V ? (at 18S LiPo)

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You can select LVC in 0.5v increments between 19v and 66.5v according to the software.
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Re: 9 FET 72V Infineon Brushless Controller (LYEN's Edition)

Post by Allex » Nov 07 2013 11:25am

Guys, where can I download or see the default values for this controller. I am trying to use the software

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