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Re: 12 x 4110 MOSFET Extreme Modder Controller LYEN Edition

Post by shorza » Dec 13 2010 9:30am

Does anyone know if i could connect the "regen braking jumpers"
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and the "e brake connectors"
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so that if i was to pull on a brake lever, power to the motor would cut out, and regen braking would kick in?

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Post by olaf-lampe » Dec 13 2010 11:02am

Yes, just close the regen brake connector and everytime you pull the brake, it automatically starts regenerating.
Only when your batteryvoltage is higher or even to the max. regen voltage, there is no regen.
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Post by The Mighty Volt » Dec 13 2010 11:38am

olaf-lampe wrote:Yes, just close the regen brake connector and everytime you pull the brake, it automatically starts regenerating.
Only when your batteryvoltage is higher or even to the max. regen voltage, there is no regen.
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Post by shorza » Dec 13 2010 7:00pm

Great, thanks olaf-lampe, that's the setup I am after.
I thought that by closing the regen jumper, regen would start as soon as i closed the throttle.

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Post by Hyena » Dec 13 2010 9:59pm

shorza wrote:I thought that by closing the regen jumper, regen would start as soon as i closed the throttle.
The newer controllers DO act like that, sort of like compression braking with an engine. When you back off the throttle it slows back down and then if you hit the brakes it'll stop even harder. Opening the while jumper stops this but then you get no regen at all. If you want the bike to coast but regen to work when you hit the brakes you need a STDP switch that both closes the white jumper and shorts the yellow and black brake wires with the single throw.
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Post by Arlo1 » Dec 14 2010 11:07am

Hyena wrote:
shorza wrote:I thought that by closing the regen jumper, regen would start as soon as i closed the throttle.
The newer controllers DO act like that, sort of like compression braking with an engine. When you back off the throttle it slows back down and then if you hit the brakes it'll stop even harder. Opening the while jumper stops this but then you get no regen at all. If you want the bike to coast but regen to work when you hit the brakes you need a STDP switch that both closes the white jumper and shorts the yellow and black brake wires with the single throw.
I belive this is in the programing and it can be changed. Sorry Im leaving for work but I will look when I get a chance.
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Post by newb » Dec 14 2010 1:25pm

Arlo1 wrote:
Hyena wrote:
shorza wrote:I thought that by closing the regen jumper, regen would start as soon as i closed the throttle.
The newer controllers DO act like that, sort of like compression braking with an engine. When you back off the throttle it slows back down and then if you hit the brakes it'll stop even harder. Opening the while jumper stops this but then you get no regen at all. If you want the bike to coast but regen to work when you hit the brakes you need a STDP switch that both closes the white jumper and shorts the yellow and black brake wires with the single throw.
I belive this is in the programing and it can be changed. Sorry Im leaving for work but I will look when I get a chance.
It can, follow this thread (particuarlly - 26. SlipChargeMode) - "Keywin E-bike Lab Parameter Designer Software Manual ver 1.2"

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Post by Hyena » Dec 15 2010 5:57pm

Yeah the old controllers used to work like that but the newer ones don't seem to.
If you select 'only fake indicate' you don't get any regen so 'up 15 mark' is your only option - which gives the engine compression like braking I described above.

If you have one of the old controllers well and good, if they're the newer ones you'll likely have to do the above.
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Post by Arlo1 » Dec 18 2010 10:47am

Hyena wrote:Yeah the old controllers used to work like that but the newer ones don't seem to.
If you select 'only fake indicate' you don't get any regen so 'up 15 mark' is your only option - which gives the engine compression like braking I described above.

If you have one of the old controllers well and good, if they're the newer ones you'll likely have to do the above.
I belive it will be the code that goes into it so maybe find an old file or try progaming it with a different controler selected.
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Post by edcastrovalley » Dec 19 2010 12:58am

Regen works great with this controller. I also have the Cycle Analyst which displays the power generated while using regen (my CA arrived in the mail today :mrgreen: ). Plus the controller can have the connector for the CA which make installation easy. I had it on and working in about 5 minutes and I was out in the rain for lots of testing. :D

Right now I'm running the controller at 110% power on my 36 volt battery though I'm planning on upping the voltage later.

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Post by shorza » Dec 23 2010 8:22am

I don't need to"tell" the controller what voltage I am ruining do I?
Are there any bad side effects to running the controller at 110% or 120%?

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Post by itchynackers » Dec 23 2010 9:37am

You SHOULD tell it the LVC, so in effect, you are telling it what voltage you are running at. I've been told different things about running more than 100%. Sure is fun though.
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Post by shorza » Dec 24 2010 1:22am

Thanks, I have sorted the LVC.
I would love to know the dangers of running at over 100%.

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Post by itchynackers » Dec 24 2010 11:55am

Others here can probably give you a more in depth answer, but my understanding is that the Mosfets can be overworked (duty cycle).
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Post by SoMoney » Jan 10 2011 1:30am

ORDERED.
Giant NRS, 9C Rear hub, 12S2P(cruising) & 18S2P(off road) packs....

Running her at 44.4v now but I wan't the option of running 66.6v for off road....
I deffer to your superior knowledge in this field if you know an efficient way to switch between 44v & 66v with regards to LVC in case I do not hear my lipo alarms. =)

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Post by chroot » Jan 10 2011 2:35pm

Hi Edward,

I tested 42v (10S2p) and got fried on ebikekit controller. The capacitors blew up. :lol:

I need convert to the 12 fets Lyen controller. I am not sure if 9C 9x7 phase wire same color match Lyen's phase connectors?

Does the Lyen hall sensor connector match 9C's hall connector?

everything working fine I.E. brake, throttle, and power connectors are good.
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Post by itchynackers » Jan 10 2011 2:55pm

I ran the 22a ebikekit controller at 48V for a while with no probs. Also, I believe you have to switch the blue and green wires when going to a lyen controller.
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Post by chroot » Jan 10 2011 3:44pm

I tried run my ebikekit controller and the capiactors blew up so I had to convert to Lyen controller. No luck getting 9C motor run. I did check volt meter each throttle, brake, sensor hall and etc. all showing 5v seems Lyen controller is working?

Let me attachment the picture. Give me few mins.
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Post by itchynackers » Jan 10 2011 3:47pm

Did you tap the small red wire into the battery + wire?
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Post by chroot » Jan 10 2011 3:52pm

Here the pictures all connectors.
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Post by chroot » Jan 10 2011 3:56pm

Yes I use postive + controller little red wire together clamped. Here the picture.
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Post by chroot » Jan 10 2011 4:13pm

Never mind, I found why and it was LVC triggered refuse let me run and I forgot about the controller already set 42v for the LVC to use 15s3p. DUH ME.

Got me big grin joyful and smile :) :) :) :) :D :D :D :D
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Post by chroot » Jan 11 2011 11:39am

Hey Edward Lyen, You ROCKS!!!! I love this controller. wow so powerful and I need buy USB cable, 3 mode switch settings and cruise control. I went 20s2p and got me 46 mph and really need change the LVC setting for 20s LiPo. I couldn't believe how powerful!

How much cost are those parts?
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Post by 999zip999 » Jan 13 2011 11:14pm

Hi lyen,My 4840 crstalyte ditital con.was in the rsin and reads 40v 38v at the 6 pin the battery is at 53.2v Ping 48v20ah with C.A.at 24amps. How much will it cost with the C.A. plug will this be over kill the motor is a bmc 600 h.s.. The controller works fine but at 40amps, Can it be fixed Thanks

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Post by 999zip999 » Jan 14 2011 4:35pm

Lyen, Just sent $129.00 the Paypal don't let me add $10.00 for upgrade. But please get started and tell how to send the $ 10.00. Thanks. I'm running a bmc 600 h.s. will it plug right in with my hall sensers plug, and have andersons on the phase wires. If not please send a diagram. I must be careful for now as this ping is running on a 40amp crstalyte con. I think this was made for a 5303 ? If the 6 pin on that controller is giving out mixed voltage 48.9v 50.5v and batt. at 53.2v how deep can it be. I need to wate for new Lyen controller before operation on old con.. Back to 32mph. It's hard to slow down. THANKS.

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