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Re: OFFICIAL Electric Motoped

Post by kfong » Jan 21, 2014 11:12 pm

I just placed an order for the frame kit and shocks. On the fence if this will be an electric conversion. The gas version seems quieter than most and I like the power and range. The 125cc motors are cheap as well, inexpensive dirt bike setup.

I will be following what you come up with Matt. This setup, screams for power.

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Re: OFFICIAL Electric Motoped

Post by efMX Trials Electric Freeride » Feb 09, 2014 8:12 pm

post kickstarter dealer & retail pricing announced.. :




All Prices U.S. Dollars!

Fully Assembled with 49cc Motor:

· 1-4: $2,149 per bike

· 5-9: $1,500 per bike

· 10-24: $1,250 per bike

· 25+: $1,150 per bike

Retail Prices:

Non-Assembled Rolling Chassis & Frame Kit

Dealer Pricing - All Prices U.S. Dollars!

· 1-4: $1,999 per bike

· 5-9: $1,250 per bike

· 10-24: $1,100 per bike

· 25+: $999 per bike

· Complete Frame Kits: $599

Retail Prices:

· Full Bike MSRP: $1999

· Frame Kit MSRP: $599
· Full Bike MSRP: $2,149

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Re: OFFICIAL Electric Motoped

Post by efMX Trials Electric Freeride » Mar 18, 2014 2:05 pm

Great news! :D
Electric Motopeds are coming! :mrgreen:
for those not on phasebook you can view updates, videos etc on the Motopeds Blog

Cromotor meets Motoped! 8)
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Re: OFFICIAL Electric Motoped

Post by GCinDC » Mar 19, 2014 7:38 am

efMX Trials Electric Freeride wrote:Electric Motopeds are coming!
i think it's safe to say there's a lot of interest here in the electric versions. hub motor's cool, but that drive train is itching for a middrive motor. anyone going that route yet? photos?
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Re: OFFICIAL Electric Motoped

Post by skyungjae » Mar 19, 2014 10:07 am

GCinDC wrote:
efMX Trials Electric Freeride wrote:Electric Motopeds are coming!
i think it's safe to say there's a lot of interest here in the electric versions. hub motor's cool, but that drive train is itching for a middrive motor. anyone going that route yet? photos?
+1

Cyclone has a 6kW mid-drive motor. It shouldn't be too difficult to make a custom bracket to mount it in there as well as some sort of battery box. If I had some sort of infinite money cheat in real life I'd try it. :lol:
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Re: OFFICIAL Electric Motoped

Post by efMX Trials Electric Freeride » Mar 20, 2014 11:36 am

Motopeds want YOU!
to design the perfect motoped!..
ebike design contest!!
swag, discounts, profit sharing..
what would your perfect motoped look like???
:idea: :?: :mrgreen:

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Re: OFFICIAL Electric Motoped

Post by MitchJi » Apr 01, 2014 6:21 pm

Hi,
efMX Trials Electric Freeride wrote:Motopeds want YOU!
to design the perfect motoped!..
ebike design contest!!
swag, discounts, profit sharing..
what would your perfect motoped look like???
:idea: :?: :mrgreen:
It would have enough space around the Jackshaft for a big pulley, something like 120t and 25mm wide so that we could get enough reduction (quietly) to eliminate the necessity for secondary reduction. Better yet, the pulley should be an option (instead of the exhaust system :D ).

It would also have enough space in the battery box for some for Nissan Leaf Battery Modules. The going price, at wrecking yards is about $100. We could carry enough in saddle bags for huge range, but it would be great if we could fit four, or even eight :mrgreen: under the top tube. Eight would be 16s 58V nominal and 60 Ah or 3.5kwh, plus two or four on each side in saddle bags (8 in saddle bags plus eight in the middle 32s and 60 ah = 116V nominal and 7kwh for $1,600).

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icecube57 wrote:Battery module specs
Number of cells 4
Construction 2 in-series pairs in parallel
Length 11.9291" (303 mm)
Width 8.7795" (223 mm)
Thickness 1.3779" (35 mm)
Weight 8.3775 lbs (3.8 kgs)
Output terminal M6 nut
Voltage sensing terminal M4 nut
Module fixing hole diameter 0.3582" (9.1 mm)

Cell specs

Cell type Laminate type
Cathode material LiMn2O4 with LiNiO2
Anode material Graphite
Rated capacity (0.3C) 33.1 Ah
Average voltage 3.8 V
Length 11.417" (290 mm)
Width 8.504" (216 mm)
Thickness 0.2795" (7.1mm)
Weight 1.7624 lbs (799 g)
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Nissan Leaf Module specs are here
Chevy Volt Pack Info - Salvage 16kwh Packs Under $2k here
The cells are rated conservatively by GM at 7.8C, Yabert's tests of Volt packs on the DiyEv car forum suggest a higher C rate, 15+ C!.

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Re: OFFICIAL Electric Motoped

Post by PRW » Apr 01, 2014 7:49 pm

I have a question - the website says "Rear hub: This is a custom made rear hub that must be used with the motoped. Rear hub is 135mm wide with 14mm axle. 36 spoke. Left side is ISIS mountain bike disc brake mount, right side is solid mount for sprocket. Hub has sealed bearings and is anodized black."

What standard hub motor would fit in this, or would there be an adaptor for common hubs?
thanks

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Re: OFFICIAL Electric Motoped

Post by jesset33 » Apr 01, 2014 10:55 pm

From memory my pit bike had a 12mm read axle so a hub should fit fine

If not I can get them made

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Re: OFFICIAL Electric Motoped

Post by efMX Trials Electric Freeride » Apr 02, 2014 11:28 am

well the motopeds specific rear hub would of course be used for a mid-drive application..
the beefed up rear hub is needed due to the extra weight & power of the motoped vs a more standard mtn bike hub..

as for a hub drive build..
im guessing that most any hub motor with (close to) 135mm dropout spacing could be fitted..???
zombiess fitted a cromotor to the motoped chassis as a proof of concept for testing
but i think it was the wider motoped fat-bike version swingarm..
maybe ask zombiess on the other motoped thread.. :
https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewto ... 88#p867635
from what ive read on their facebook etc, i think motopeds is trying to source both hub kits
& mid-drive kits that can be fitted or adapted to the current motopeds design..
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PRW wrote:I have a question - the website says "Rear hub: This is a custom made rear hub that must be used with the motoped. Rear hub is 135mm wide with 14mm axle. 36 spoke. Left side is ISIS mountain bike disc brake mount, right side is solid mount for sprocket. Hub has sealed bearings and is anodized black."

What standard hub motor would fit in this, or would there be an adapter for common hubs?
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Re: OFFICIAL Electric Motoped

Post by Drunkskunk » Apr 02, 2014 12:07 pm

Damn that's cool! I would love to throw that pedal and swingarm setup onto the back of something like a Raptor frame.
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Re: OFFICIAL Electric Motoped

Post by melodious » May 03, 2014 11:00 am

Jeez. I love this frame and design. It's a great learning platform as well. Lot's of places to put the battery (or batteries). My only complaint is it's relegated to a motored wheel (135mm width) vs. a mid motor which translates to more mass on the rear swingarm. But at my age, I don't think I'll be crushing down rocky descents or leaping 25 feet into the air :?:

So who is going to take the leap of faith and try to get a group purchase here on ES :?: :mrgreen: LFP? He's probably your neighbor across the highway :wink:
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Re: OFFICIAL Electric Motoped

Post by efMX Trials Electric Freeride » May 03, 2014 8:47 pm

why would the motoped be limited to hub drive???
did you not read the whole thread and see the two motoped mid-drives (so far)???
with the jackshaft design motoped is made specifically for mid-drive...
also, the new fatbike version has 170mm rear spacing (fatbike standard?)
so room for wide high power hub motor if desired..
but don't count on group buys anytime soon..
they seem to be having some delivery problems..

melodious wrote:Jeez. I love this frame and design. It's a great learning platform as well. Lot's of places to put the battery (or batteries). My only complaint is it's relegated to a motored wheel (135mm width) vs. a mid motor which translates to more mass on the rear swingarm...
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Re: OFFICIAL Electric Motoped

Post by windtrader » May 03, 2014 9:24 pm

they seem to be having some delivery problems..
That's sad to hear. I've followed this project for some time, well before it went crowd funding. It sees a great niche but something is not right with the folks at the helm. For whatever reason, they seem to be unable to get a production system in place, even after getting funding behind them. Also seem different hands involved behind the scene but that is all speculation. Just wish they would get all the motor kits out and maybe have some time to get some e-motor versions into the production lineup.

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Re: OFFICIAL Electric Motoped

Post by efMX Trials Electric Freeride » May 03, 2014 9:42 pm

i don't think we should get too discouraged..
likely just some speed bumps on a long & winding road..
going from a small operation to international sales/distribution..
stay tuned.. i betting more motoped deliveries & e-motopeds are on the way...

windtrader wrote:
they seem to be having some delivery problems..
That's sad to hear. I've followed this project for some time, well before it went crowd funding. It sees a great niche but something is not right with the folks at the helm. For whatever reason, they seem to be unable to get a production system in place, even after getting funding behind them. Also seem different hands involved behind the scene but that is all speculation. Just wish they would get all the motor kits out and maybe have some time to get some e-motor versions into the production lineup.
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Re: OFFICIAL Electric Motoped

Post by kfong » May 04, 2014 7:05 am

I'm still waiting for mine, I did send them an email and they said mid May for those who bought frame kits and end of May for full bikes. Hopefully, it's true. Will post when I get it. I bought the frame with the upgraded suspension.

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Re: OFFICIAL Electric Motoped

Post by MitchJi » May 04, 2014 10:26 am

:)
efMX Trials Electric Freeride wrote:i don't think we should get too discouraged..
likely just some speed bumps on a long & winding road..
going from a small operation to international sales/distribution..
stay tuned.. i betting more motoped deliveries & e-motopeds are on the way
And is a pretty brave best, considering that the first post in this thread which announced them is dated October 2010!!!
Best Wishes!

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The best quality batteries and lowest priced batteries for DIY EV's are tier 1 OEM Quality Cells from salvaged (wrecked) EV packs. Two examples are Chevy Volt and Nissan Leaf packs.

Nissan Leaf Module specs are here
Chevy Volt Pack Info - Salvage 16kwh Packs Under $2k here
The cells are rated conservatively by GM at 7.8C, Yabert's tests of Volt packs on the DiyEv car forum suggest a higher C rate, 15+ C!.

$1,400 plus $360 freight. Still over $1k less than new lead!

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Re: OFFICIAL Electric Motoped

Post by MitchJi » May 04, 2014 10:32 am

:)
efMX Trials Electric Freeride wrote:i don't think we should get too discouraged..
likely just some speed bumps on a long & winding road..
going from a small operation to international sales/distribution..
stay tuned.. i betting more motoped deliveries & e-motopeds are on the way
And is a pretty brave best, considering that the first post in this thread which announced them is dated October 2010!!!

Or check this post from 2011:
Everything has slowed down quite a bit in the last 2 months as we prepare to get the business end all figured out. I have recently been working with a business assistance program that has along with others, felt this project has great potential based on what we have so far. We are currently finishing up all the formality and then moving to seek out investment to make our first 100 frame run of a fully electric version of the bike. We may in the future produce some more of the gas ones but as of now they are pretty much dead, electric is the focus.
Best Wishes!

Mitch


The best quality batteries and lowest priced batteries for DIY EV's are tier 1 OEM Quality Cells from salvaged (wrecked) EV packs. Two examples are Chevy Volt and Nissan Leaf packs.

Nissan Leaf Module specs are here
Chevy Volt Pack Info - Salvage 16kwh Packs Under $2k here
The cells are rated conservatively by GM at 7.8C, Yabert's tests of Volt packs on the DiyEv car forum suggest a higher C rate, 15+ C!.

$1,400 plus $360 freight. Still over $1k less than new lead!

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Re: OFFICIAL Electric Motoped

Post by MitchJi » May 04, 2014 10:34 am

efMX Trials Electric Freeride wrote:i don't think we should get too discouraged..
likely just some speed bumps on a long & winding road..
going from a small operation to international sales/distribution..
stay tuned.. i betting more motoped deliveries & e-motopeds are on the way
That is a pretty brave best, considering that the first post in this thread which announced the electric version is dated October 2010!!!

Or check this post from 2011:
Everything has slowed down quite a bit in the last 2 months as we prepare to get the business end all figured out. I have recently been working with a business assistance program that has along with others, felt this project has great potential based on what we have so far. We are currently finishing up all the formality and then moving to seek out investment to make our first 100 frame run of a fully electric version of the bike. We may in the future produce some more of the gas ones but as of now they are pretty much dead, electric is the focus.
Best Wishes!

Mitch


The best quality batteries and lowest priced batteries for DIY EV's are tier 1 OEM Quality Cells from salvaged (wrecked) EV packs. Two examples are Chevy Volt and Nissan Leaf packs.

Nissan Leaf Module specs are here
Chevy Volt Pack Info - Salvage 16kwh Packs Under $2k here
The cells are rated conservatively by GM at 7.8C, Yabert's tests of Volt packs on the DiyEv car forum suggest a higher C rate, 15+ C!.

$1,400 plus $360 freight. Still over $1k less than new lead!

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Re: OFFICIAL Electric Motoped

Post by efMX Trials Electric Freeride » May 04, 2014 12:19 pm

apparently its a very long road! ;)
im not sure if the OP is even still involved w motoped or not???
since motoped has been crowd sourcing for more ebike designs..
gas is much cheaper than batteries for range so until that changes gas will out sell and be the focus..
its been a long wait.. hoping to get my frame & suspension soon..
supposedly electric kits are in the works but please don't hold your breath..
maybe the kits will become available about the time i finish my build.. :roll:

MitchJi wrote:
efMX Trials Electric Freeride wrote:i don't think we should get too discouraged..
likely just some speed bumps on a long & winding road..
going from a small operation to international sales/distribution..
stay tuned.. i betting more motoped deliveries & e-motopeds are on the way
That is a pretty brave best, considering that the first post in this thread which announced the electric version is dated October 2010!!!

Or check this post from 2011:
Everything has slowed down quite a bit in the last 2 months as we prepare to get the business end all figured out. I have recently been working with a business assistance program that has along with others, felt this project has great potential based on what we have so far. We are currently finishing up all the formality and then moving to seek out investment to make our first 100 frame run of a fully electric version of the bike. We may in the future produce some more of the gas ones but as of now they are pretty much dead, electric is the focus.
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Re: OFFICIAL Electric Motoped

Post by MitchJi » May 04, 2014 1:26 pm

efMX Trials Electric Freeride wrote:apparently its a very long road! ;)
im not sure if the OP is even still involved w motoped or not???
since motoped has been crowd sourcing for more ebike designs..
gas is much cheaper than batteries for range so until that changes gas will out sell and be the focus..

supposedly electric kits are in the works but please don't hold your breath...


These Nissan leaf cell battery modules, costs about $100 at wrecking yards.
They are a little big and heavy, but not hugely expensive.
https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewto ... 25#p889766
I think a great configuration for these cells would be 6 sardine cans, unhacked, and wired into 12S/2P. Stack them up and figure out where to mount them on your bike. - Would give you 50V HOC and 2.5 kWhs. Weight would be pretty significant, but so would range and discharge capacity. This may not be the ideal configuration for a light & stealthy commuter/offroad bike, but for a long range touring ebike, I can see this being an easy and cheap solution. As an alternative to a Ping LiFePO4, this would work well. For light and stealthy, I will stay with HK LiPo. - It just seems like too much effort to break open the cans, cut the bus bars and reconfigure, for what still amounts to a hell of a big, heavy battery.
Best Wishes!

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The best quality batteries and lowest priced batteries for DIY EV's are tier 1 OEM Quality Cells from salvaged (wrecked) EV packs. Two examples are Chevy Volt and Nissan Leaf packs.

Nissan Leaf Module specs are here
Chevy Volt Pack Info - Salvage 16kwh Packs Under $2k here
The cells are rated conservatively by GM at 7.8C, Yabert's tests of Volt packs on the DiyEv car forum suggest a higher C rate, 15+ C!.

$1,400 plus $360 freight. Still over $1k less than new lead!

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Re: OFFICIAL Electric Motoped

Post by efMX Trials Electric Freeride » May 04, 2014 3:33 pm

thanks for the tip.. i'll check into it!
:)
MitchJi wrote: These Nissan leaf cell battery modules, costs about $100 at wrecking yards.
They are a little big and heavy, but not hugely expensive.
https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewto ... 25#p889766
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Re: OFFICIAL Electric Motoped

Post by efMX Trials Electric Freeride » May 09, 2014 11:45 am

Motopeds are in production & getting ready to ship! :
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Electric Bikes and street legal supermotos are next!
:D :mrgreen:

EDIT:
i have no affiliation with motopeds or it dealers etc..
its just for the interests of the readers etc..
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Re: OFFICIAL Electric Motoped

Post by recumpence » May 09, 2014 5:02 pm

Sweet. I have two customers who ordered two stage drives from me for their Motopeds.

I think I can see my frameset in that bunch. :-)

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