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Re: Doc's ULTIMATE TORQUE ARMS fit most of the frame UPDATE

Post by diggler » Apr 15 2014 8:46pm

just wondering if these would be a good fit for my bike. I'm going to put a rear 1000w motor on here.
Good news it's steal. Magnet sticks. Do you recommend pulling the dropouts apart and just welding the arms to the inside. As of right now I think I might have to pull them apart a little already. If I do that I don't need the inside washers right. just tighten TA right to axle?
Easiest would be to just weld one on the left outside. But will be running 60v possibly so is one on each side recommended? Someone told me max is 2500w 45A at 58v.
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Re: Doc's ULTIMATE TORQUE ARMS fit most of the frame UPDATE

Post by Doctorbass » Apr 20 2014 9:39am

diggler wrote:just wondering if these would be a good fit for my bike. I'm going to put a rear 1000w motor on here.
Good news it's steal. Magnet sticks. Do you recommend pulling the dropouts apart and just welding the arms to the inside. As of right now I think I might have to pull them apart a little already. If I do that I don't need the inside washers right. just tighten TA right to axle?
Easiest would be to just weld one on the left outside. But will be running 60v possibly so is one on each side recommended? Someone told me max is 2500w 45A at 58v.
Your frame look pretty easy to match with the ultimate Y-A. Inside or outside is not a problem too. You could weld these in place and have the oem derailleur arm cut to leave place to the one on the T-A. The steel on the frame is usually soft so i suggest to have the T-A welsed inside, but is is not that much important. You seem to have also enough surface to epoxy them or to bolt them.

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Re: Doc's ULTIMATE TORQUE ARMS fit most of the frame UPDATE

Post by cwah » Apr 20 2014 10:08am

Can the holes in the torque arms be threaded easily? I'd like to use the holes to mount stuff in it
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Post by Doctorbass » Apr 22 2014 4:29pm

cwah wrote:Can the holes in the torque arms be threaded easily? I'd like to use the holes to mount stuff in it
The heat of the laser make the metal to become really hard so you will need to drill a hole before to make the threads otherwise you will break your tap threads
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Re: Doc's ULTIMATE TORQUE ARMS fit most of the frame UPDATE

Post by Chalo » Apr 22 2014 10:30pm

Doctorbass wrote:
cwah wrote:Can the holes in the torque arms be threaded easily? I'd like to use the holes to mount stuff in it
The heat of the laser make the metal to become really hard so you will need to drill a hole before to make the threads otherwise you will break your tap threads
You could also heat the part with a torch until it glows dull red, then let it cool slowly. That would return the material to a mild temper and make it easier to machine.
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Re: Doc's ULTIMATE TORQUE ARMS fit most of the frame UPDATE

Post by cwah » May 03 2014 5:18am

Thanks guys, sorry I didn't see you answered me. I'll do that.

I think I need REAL torque arm, not those sold in commerce with cheap metal. Look happened to my dahon jetstream with a BPM and 2.8KW only :(
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Right torque arm:
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Do you think your torque arms will be better than these ones? The holes aren't going to be wider like these torque arm?
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Post by Doctorbass » May 03 2014 10:08am

cwah wrote: Do you think your torque arms will be better than these ones? The holes aren't going to be wider like these torque arm?
Yes it will not happen so easily! From EVERY ULTIMATE T-A i sold, that NEVER happened :wink: None ever break actually. This might be the answer for why i need to make a new batch every 6 month since years :lol:

I am sorry for what happened to you with your commercial torque arm, YEs the Steel Quality is making a big difference.. The Ultimate Torque arms i'm offering are made of top quality Canadian Steel QT100. The laser cut also harden the metal on teh surface that make contact to the axel wich help to avoid it to deform from the high pressure that the edge of the axel.

Next batch coming after i will be back from my trip to California. :wink:

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Post by cwah » May 03 2014 10:34am

Thanks doc. I'll get few pair from you as soon as you come back from california
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Post by broke » Jun 12 2014 3:39pm

Hay Doc did you get my PM?
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Post by Doctorbass » Jun 13 2014 10:35am

broke wrote:Hay Doc did you get my PM?

Yes I got it and replied :wink:

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Re: Doc's ULTIMATE TORQUE ARMS fit most of the frame UPDATE

Post by arar1971 » Jun 25 2014 6:04am

hi doctor bass. I need 1 pair of Torque arms and send you pm.

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Post by Larseren » Jul 02 2014 4:30pm

Hi Doc,

I am also desperately in the need of a pair of torque arms for my new build, shipped to Norway if you can?

I have pm`ed you earlier but haven't got a response.

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Post by PeteB » Jul 03 2014 8:37am

Pm'ed for a set as well..Thank's Dr,Bass for the discount and free stickers...JUST KIDDING!.. :shock:
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Post by TheBeastie » Jul 10 2014 10:43am

I don't know if this is a good idea or not but I was just looking around the web at flux's mainly in the interest of etching metals with out getting too hot when I came across this, SUPER ALLOY 1, its a special flux and solder rod that claims it can solder aluminium and steel together. Their words below, I noticed the video was only posted a good month ago..
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Previously, joining these two metals was unheard of in the welding community. Super Alloy 1, the 350f degree solder, makes easy work of this seemingly impossible of application.

This multi-metal solder is paired with a unique flux that works as a temperature guide, turning brown at the proper working temperature, and indicating when to add the Super Alloy 1 rod.


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Post by Doctorbass » Jul 10 2014 3:19pm

UPDATE ON T-A availlablility

Hi all I know there are dozens of you of you waiting for the next T-A batch to come available. Some of you have been waiting for weeks or months. :shock: :oops:

Your wait will have worth guys :wink: . I will get some soon.

The problem is that my last laser cut shop now refuse my order because they say it is too hard on their machine and it cost them too much to cut my 3/8" CHT100 steel. I was unhappy with the quality they delivered to me few times and i had returned them ans asked to get the same quality as the very first T-A batch I got from them wich was excellent. Unfortunately they now refuse to make them for me anymore.

With weeks of search I finally found a new shop that agree to make these for me at reasonable price but a bit higher than previously. This is not all shop that accept laser cutting 3/8 steel plate made of CHT100 with the precision I require. This require special tuning and many try before they succeed to make a nice cut. It also depend on the source for their CHT100 steel. Some are harder to cut than others and this require time and tuning for getting the quality I require. I also worked hard to keep price as low as possible.

Next T-A batch should arrive at the end of next week and will be 36$ /pair :wink:

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Post by RLT » Jul 13 2014 5:27pm

Doctorbass wrote: ....Next T-A batch should arrive at the end of next week and will be 36$ /pair ...
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Post by arar1971 » Jul 14 2014 7:31am

sorry I did not mean like that.
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Post by eBikeWannaBe » Jul 14 2014 10:13am

arar1971 wrote:dr. you did not respond me and finally I decided to make my own torque arms 301 s.steel laser cut. 2 different models.if someone interests, I have 5 pairs more.
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Post by ejonesss » Jul 14 2014 3:30pm

Doctorbass wrote:UPDATE ON T-A availlablility

Hi all I know there are dozens of you of you waiting for the next T-A batch to come available. Some of you have been waiting for weeks or months. :shock: :oops:

Your wait will have worth guys :wink: . I will get some soon.

The problem is that my last laser cut shop now refuse my order because they say it is too hard on their machine and it cost them too much to cut my 3/8" CHT100 steel. I was unhappy with the quality they delivered to me few times and i had returned them ans asked to get the same quality as the very first T-A batch I got from them wich was excellent. Unfortunately they now refuse to make them for me anymore.

With weeks of search I finally found a new shop that agree to make these for me at reasonable price but a bit higher than previously. This is not all shop that accept laser cutting 3/8 steel plate made of CHT100 with the precision I require. This require special tuning and many try before they succeed to make a nice cut. It also depend on the source for their CHT100 steel. Some are harder to cut than others and this require time and tuning for getting the quality I require. I also worked hard to keep price as low as possible.

Next T-A batch should arrive at the end of next week and will be 36$ /pair :wink:

Doc
ask the shop where they got their laser cutter from and go out and buy one (yes it will be thou$and$)

if worse comes to worse have them cut them thinner say 1/8 and stack 3 plates to make the 3/8.


and note to other users selling their brand of torque arms please make a separate thread and keep this thread for the doc's brand topic.
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Post by Dream_Crusher » Jul 22 2014 1:18pm

any updates? been waiting about 2 months now... :cry:

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Post by Doctorbass » Jul 22 2014 6:41pm

Dream_Crusher wrote:any updates? been waiting about 2 months now... :cry:

i'll get these This week! :wink:
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Post by Doctorbass » Jul 30 2014 8:49pm

OK guys Great New!!

I got the new batch of 75 T-A set today. :wink:

I am really satisfied with teh QC and overall result! :mrgreen:

All of you that sent me PM for these will be replied soon, but this week i'm really too busy and next week i will go for a 6 days 2000km trip with my Zero and the new 15kWh setup.

When i'll comeback i'll begin request payment and shipping these.

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Post by waynebergman » Oct 08 2014 9:34pm

Hi Doc

Please send me a set. These will be for my tadpole in progress http://www.endless-sphere.com/forums/vi ... =6&t=63755

I will shoot you payment when you have them ready to go. Wayne

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Post by Doctorbass » Oct 08 2014 10:29pm

waynebergman wrote:Hi Doc

Please send me a set. These will be for my tadpole in progress http://www.endless-sphere.com/forums/vi ... =6&t=63755

I will shoot you payment when you have them ready to go. Wayne

Pm sent :wink:
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Post by ERASTABIKE » Oct 09 2014 3:59pm

how can i order a set of 2, NEW 10.?mm+++ ?

i need them please

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