5403/5404 US/CANADA deadline! order is made!!!

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Re: 5403/5404 US/CANADA Nov 21st deadline! UPDATE

Post by itchynackers » Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:01 pm

We are a GO for ordering....woooot!

Literally your last chance if you are on the fence about this. The order is a go, so now or NEVER!

I can't wait.
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Re: 5403/5404 US/CANADA Nov 21st deadline! UPDATE

Post by Doctorbass » Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:16 pm

Yeah.. :mrgreen:


Max CONFIRMED that the order with CRYSTALYTE is OK

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Re: 5403/5404 US/CANADA Nov 21st deadline! UPDATE

Post by gensem » Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:19 pm

Im glad you guys made it happen after all the changes and the trouble to settle for the real 54xx. :mrgreen:
Justin we really appreciate what you did!

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Re: 5403/5404 US/CANADA Nov 21st deadline! UPDATE

Post by Floont » Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:23 pm


I just got off the phone with Max and just sent the $$$.

Looking forward to this beast of a motor!!!

Thanks to Max, Hyena, and (the Europe guy whose name eludes me at the moment) for doing all the hard work to make this deal happen!!!
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Re: 5403/5404 US/CANADA Nov 21st deadline! UPDATE

Post by itchynackers » Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:48 pm

Yep, will be interesting to compare the greyborg motor performance/durability with this one.
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Re: 5403/5404 US/CANADA Nov 21st deadline! UPDATE

Post by MadRhino » Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:07 pm

itchynackers wrote:Yep, will be interesting to compare the greyborg motor performance/durability with this one.

I guess most of us know the answer already. The Greyborg will be more powerfull, but will not stand the heat as well as the X54. It's a simple matter of size and weight.

I will build with both, so will know for sure next summer. :twisted:
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Re: 5403/5404 US/CANADA Nov 21st deadline! UPDATE

Post by Doctorbass » Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:51 am

itchynackers wrote:Yep, will be interesting to compare the greyborg motor performance/durability with this one.



Yeah.. I'll have both :twisted:

Am i the doc or not?? :wink: 8)

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Re: 5403/5404 US/CANADA deadline! order is made!!!

Post by rojitor » Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:44 am

Nice news! This happens at last. There are no updates in the europe thread though, i hope i can contact with wojtek today.

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Re: 5403/5404 US/CANADA Nov 21st deadline! UPDATE

Post by itchynackers » Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:05 am

MadRhino wrote:
itchynackers wrote:Yep, will be interesting to compare the greyborg motor performance/durability with this one.

I guess most of us know the answer already. The Greyborg will be more powerfull, but will not stand the heat as well as the X54. It's a simple matter of size and weight.

I will build with both, so will know for sure next summer. :twisted:



I hope you are right! At this point, I'd rather have more thermal reliability than torque/speed.
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Re: 5403/5404 US/CANADA deadline! order is made!!!

Post by Evoforce » Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:28 pm

Just ordered another two! :mrgreen:
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Re: 5403/5404 US/CANADA Nov 21st deadline! UPDATE

Post by Hobbit » Thu Nov 17, 2011 6:07 pm

itchynackers wrote: At this point, I'd rather have more thermal reliability than torque/speed.


That's what my wife says too..... :wink:
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Re: 5403/5404 US/CANADA deadline! order is made!!!

Post by thedarlington » Thu Nov 17, 2011 6:43 pm

nevermind just found the price, is the final day to pay still the 21st to get in on this deal? what controller are u guys gonna put on these? does it make much sense if im only lookin to do about 35 40mph tops? can this be made on 48v thanks

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Re: 5403/5404 US/CANADA deadline! order is made!!!

Post by 999zip999 » Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:42 pm

Maybe close at 50 plus amps on lipo. 72v at 35 amps. Something close to that.

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Re: 5403/5404 US/CANADA deadline! order is made!!!

Post by hinv » Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:12 pm

I wonder if these would make good hub motors for something like a honda civic.
Do they perform identically in both directions? If doc can pull a bus with 1, I think 2 of them would have no problem with 2 of them.
Anybody have the performance spec curves for these?

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Re: 5403/5404 US/CANADA deadline! order is made!!!

Post by Andje » Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:21 pm

on a car there is no reason not to get a high rpm centrally mounted motor and gear it down.
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Re: 5403/5404 US/CANADA deadline! order is made!!!

Post by RoadShear » Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:30 pm

Max,

Payment has been sent via Paypal for a 5404, 135mm, 26" 31mm rim.

Thank you.

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Re: 5403/5404 US/CANADA deadline! order is made!!!

Post by Floont » Sat Nov 19, 2011 6:23 pm


This is what a Stealth Bomber 5405 looks like:

IMG00294-20111119-1517.jpg
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Re: 5403/5404 US/CANADA deadline! order is made!!!

Post by Andje » Sat Nov 19, 2011 8:23 pm

if that's what i get i will be sooo happy
Norco 125 Dirt Jumper
100v 15ah Lipo Backpack
lyens 18 fet, 100v 100 amps, R12 Regen
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Norco A-Line Park 2009
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Re: 5403/5404 US/CANADA deadline! order is made!!!

Post by Doctorbass » Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:26 am

Floont wrote:
This is what a Stealth Bomber 5405 looks like:

IMG00294-20111119-1517.jpg



Ah.. that's what a real beast motor should look like :twisted:

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Re: 5403/5404 US/CANADA deadline! order is made!!!

Post by scriewy » Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:00 am

we should leave the overall length of axle long enough to fit 150mm dropouts as well, just the part between the dropouts will be machined more for those wanting to start with 135mm dropouts.

please ask that kenny

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not a big visual difference, BUT A BIG DEAL for opportunities
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the red box text missing this " will be 15mm longer as the original 150mm axle is, if not even a bit more, total 211mm or more"
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Re: 5403/5404 US/CANADA deadline! order is made!!!

Post by The Mighty Volt » Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:05 am

@ Scriewy, did you want to talk to me about something? Thanks.

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Re: 5403/5404 US/CANADA deadline! order is made!!!

Post by chroot » Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:45 am

I agree, Typically what Kenny is. Screw him!



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Kenny is not anymore on my paypal list!!

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Re: 5403/5404 US/CANADA deadline! order is made!!!

Post by scriewy » Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:30 am

The Mighty Volt wrote:@ Scriewy, did you want to talk to me about something? Thanks.



yea TMV, just to get something through you, and i'd supply the funds in advance, if you got time for it at all, few other people were busy which i totally understand.
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clyte 405,
went through battle, bloody resurected Dewalts 4x28v 2s2p usable 2.7ah, 52v drops to 44v at 54kmh
78v 2ah Vdrop to 58v at max 66kmh.
72kg rider + 23kg bike.
keywin 20a 30-70v mod to 6 4110 as methods advised for noobs, shunted 38a
clyte 24-72v 40a mod 4310 to 4110, shunted to 77a
17.5.11 - 5000km
at 78v 4ah 72.7kmh Vdrop to 68v
10.11 - 82.1kmh
30.8.12-17000km

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Re: 5403/5404 US/CANADA deadline! order is made!!!

Post by Wolfy » Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:34 am

scriewy wrote
we should leave the overall length of axle long enough to fit 150mm dropouts as well, just the part between the dropouts will be machined more for those wanting to start with 135mm dropouts.


Brilliant idea Scriewy :idea: ,that would make all the motors universal use for either 150mm or 135mm.That would enhance the resale value of the motor too.
It would be easier for kenny to make them all the same (won't have to think so much and count :D ) He should like that for the short product run.
I called Max and he loves the idea too.....
Is everyone else OK with this?

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Re: 5403/5404 US/CANADA deadline! order is made!!!

Post by Doctorbass » Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:50 am

Wolfy wrote:scriewy wrote
we should leave the overall length of axle long enough to fit 150mm dropouts as well, just the part between the dropouts will be machined more for those wanting to start with 135mm dropouts.


Brilliant idea Scriewy :idea: ,that would make all the motors universal use for either 150mm or 135mm.That would enhance the resale value of the motor too.
It would be easier for kenny to make them all the same (won't have to think so much and count :D ) He should like that for the short product run.
I called Max and he loves the idea too.....
Is everyone else OK with this?



I'm ok

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