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Re: Anyone interested in more Throttle Tamers?

Post by melodious » Apr 03 2014 7:41am

zombiess wrote:Pricing will be $40 shipped in USA, $45 shipped internationally. I had to bump the price up by $5 each due to the manufacturing costs, sorry about that. Good news is every version is dual output, it's not an option any more, I decided to have them all made with two outputs.
Dual output translates to 1x throttle :arrow: 2x controllers for dual hub motor setups :?:
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Re: Anyone interested in more Throttle Tamers?

Post by zombiess » Apr 03 2014 9:01am

melodious wrote:
zombiess wrote:Pricing will be $40 shipped in USA, $45 shipped internationally. I had to bump the price up by $5 each due to the manufacturing costs, sorry about that. Good news is every version is dual output, it's not an option any more, I decided to have them all made with two outputs.
Dual output translates to 1x throttle :arrow: 2x controllers for dual hub motor setups :?:
Yes. I created the dual output mainly for John In CR who has 6 phase motors which he can use 2 controllers on. There are several people using them with Johns motor and some people building 2 motor setups.

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Re: Anyone interested in more Throttle Tamers?

Post by flua73 » Apr 04 2014 3:18pm

flua73 wrote:I will have one too please.
order two instead, one extra for future projects :D
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Re: Anyone interested in more Throttle Tamers?

Post by chucho » Apr 10 2014 12:33pm

Hello, i am making a 9c 32s in 20" and planing to buy a CA v3. Never used a CA v3 before... would your Throttle Tamer be good for my setup or it would be enough with the CA v3?
Planing to use a infineon controler :wink:

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Re: Anyone interested in more Throttle Tamers?

Post by skyliner » Apr 13 2014 10:20am

I will have one too please.

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Re: Anyone interested in more Throttle Tamers?

Post by miuan » Apr 22 2014 7:14am

zombiess, any progress with the new batch?

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Post by zombiess » Apr 22 2014 9:02am

miuan wrote:zombiess, any progress with the new batch?
I just received an email letting me know they will be done this week.

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Re: Anyone interested in more Throttle Tamers?

Post by r3volved » Apr 22 2014 11:20am

Does it just connect between the throttle and controller with typical throttle connector?

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Re: Anyone interested in more Throttle Tamers?

Post by biohazardman » Apr 25 2014 1:57am

Is it "This week" yet? ;^)
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Re: Anyone interested in more Throttle Tamers?

Post by zombiess » Apr 25 2014 9:17am

biohazardman wrote:Is it "This week" yet? ;^)
I sure hope so. They contacted me a few days ago about sealing the enclosures and seeling the wires entrance. This is the first product I am having manufactured by someone else so it has been a bit of a learning process. They have been very helpful with my small order, but have not even come close to meeting their delivery date, 30 days past due :(

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Post by zombiess » May 02 2014 2:35pm

Yay, I finally received them. Now I just need my delivery of micro controllers to program and I can start selling them.

I will be updating this thread with link to the for sale thread very soon.

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Post by biohazardman » May 02 2014 7:00pm

Yup it's finally this week!! Looking forward to trying one on the current ride and definitely want one for the next build in progress.
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Throttle Tamer - In stock now

Post by zombiess » May 07 2014 12:16am

In Stock Again 05-06-14 I have 90 total available.

Previous sales thread http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewto ... lit=+tamer

Price is $40 shipped in the USA by first class mail. Rest of world $45 shipped. Please do not PM me, email jwolf@dodecahedronsolutions.com and I will invoice you, let me know what Country you live it :)

Here is the manual for the Tamer
Throttle Tamer Instructions V1.0.pdf
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Boring, but useful video explanation of what the adjustments do with output shown on a oscilliscope.



I have to update the pictures as these are of the last version, new version is basically the same, but the wiring goes through holes in the sides and sealed with hot glue.
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For some entertainment here the development thread with all my trials and errors that it took to create this device
http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewto ... =2&t=32599 At some point I am going to pick up development on it again and finish incorporating wheel speed so that I can turn it into a fully functioning accelerator, not sure when though. I decided to install the micro controller in a socket for this reason. That way as long as I keep the same platform and I don't see why I wouldn't at this point, it may be upgraded in the future.

Just remember that after installing this it will change the way your throttle acts and you will need to adjust your riding style. Give it a week / 20-30 miles and it becomes natural because you gain muscle memory. With this device you can creep along at a snails pace but with a quick snap of the throttle pop a wheelie; or you can set it up so that you never have to worry about wheelies. It's all in how you adjust the throttle ramp rate setting.

My interface controls the throttle ramp rates based on two factors. A acceleration setting potentiometer that sets the throttle ramp rate in relation to how quickly you twist the throttle (The faster you twist the throttle, the faster the ramp rate). The second factor is a throttle averaging buffer which primarily controls how much jitter is filtered out of the throttle caused by small movements of it, secondarily has a small effect on the ramp rate, more buffer = slower ramp rate during very small throttle movements. I chose this method over all the others I tried because I found it allowed me to produce a smooth responsive throttle curve without zero sacrifice in maximum acceleration from any speed. I have the ability to quickly snap the throttle from low speed causing my bike to power wheelie so that I can pop the front end up a curb and still have extremely good low speed control.

Either the acceleration or buffer can be used independent of each other. If you want to only filter the throttle input, you may set the acceleration potentiometer fully clockwise (25 turns) so that throttle input = throttle output, but the buffer setting can be set so that small throttle jitter such as riding over bumps does not alter the throttle interface output unless it is intentional. The exact opposite can be achieved as well and any setting in between. Most people find the ideal setting is in between and those settings vary depending on the individual bike.

My device started out primarily as a project for myself but I saw it had a wider applications to others. I found out it's even useful for my wife's lower powered ebike which I could ride without issue because I have excellent throttle control from riding my high powered bike which had a throttle of death in high power mode (don't even think of trying to start off in high power mode unless you want to be on your butt kind of power). She is completely new to e bikes. I tried setting the 3 speed switch and limiting the bike to 40% throttle (11mph) and turning the phase amps down to 60A, but she still complained the throttle was too twitchy for her, especially in the middle setting which is 75% throttle and has a top speed of 19mph. After installing and adjusting my interface she has become a lot more comfortable with riding and I was able to adjust the phase amps up to 80A with a 40A battery limit (50V setup) and she had no problems and now rides around in the middle 75% setting most of the time. I do have the interface set to ramp slowly and filter a lot, but the bike still has enough power to climb a 10% grade at 7mph in the 40% throttle setting with no pedal assist with her riding. I bring up her bike as an example because while it's not particularly high power, it's very light weight with her on it and has a 9c 2806 in a 20" tire.
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Re: Anyone interested in more Throttle Tamers?

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Re: Throttle Tamer - In stock now USA

Post by Merlin » May 07 2014 1:17pm

email is okay, but around the world are alot of spam filter(s)
maybe some (incl me) cant delivered ;)

so just want to say, i send you an email with my order of 2 tamers.

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Re: Throttle Tamer - In stock now USA

Post by zombiess » May 07 2014 2:03pm

I have received a lot of international emails and I am checking spam. So far so good, none were sent to spam. I will send out invoices tonight. I am surprised by the demand and most in the USA won't see this until tonight. Going to be needing a lot of customs forms.

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Post by Tench » May 08 2014 2:02pm

Email sent yesterday, let me know if you have not received it, tench is part of the address.
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Re: Throttle Tamer - In stock now USA

Post by zombiess » May 08 2014 5:00pm

Tench wrote:Email sent yesterday, let me know if you have not received it, tench is part of the address.
Invoice was sent to you yesterday.

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Re: Throttle Tamer - In stock now USA

Post by zombiess » May 09 2014 1:00am

All orders are going out in the mail tomorrow.

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Re: Throttle Tamer - In stock now USA

Post by Tench » May 09 2014 3:12am

zombiess wrote:
Tench wrote:Email sent yesterday, let me know if you have not received it, tench is part of the address.
Invoice was sent to you yesterday.
Got it now and paid, thank you.
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Re: Throttle Tamer - In stock now USA

Post by snellemin » May 12 2014 1:44pm

Received mine today. Thanks for the quick ship.
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Re: Throttle Tamer - In stock now USA

Post by izeman » May 12 2014 2:25pm

zombiess wrote:I have received a lot of international emails and I am checking spam. So far so good, none were sent to spam. I will send out invoices tonight. I am surprised by the demand and most in the USA won't see this until tonight. Going to be needing a lot of customs forms.
if you declare value of $25 most countries won't have problems to just pass customs for free. it's not that i don't want to pay taxes ;) but customs delays shipping a lot and here in austria we pay 20% tax (which is not much for $40 value) but the local post company charges 12€ ($15) for collecting taxes/customs which is really in no relation to price of goods.

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Re: Throttle Tamer - In stock now USA

Post by zombiess » May 12 2014 2:28pm

All are declared at $15ea.

Thanks for that info izeman.

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Re: Throttle Tamer - In stock now USA

Post by flua73 » May 14 2014 9:11am

Received mine two today. Thanks for the fast shipping...
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Re: Throttle Tamer - In stock now USA

Post by liamcaff » May 15 2014 10:44am

Received mine :) Thanks!

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