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Post by DasDouble » Sep 11 2015 4:44pm

Another idea for you guys:

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Post by ccmdr » Sep 14 2015 7:30am

Hi guys long time lerker, great bit of kit (using just the controller on my current commuter HS3540 48v 30ah headway std LiFePO4 charger) but I've been having some issue's with my new build, namely;

How are you guys charging? All I'm getting is 'detecting charger'!

I've an Eltek Flatpack2HE which is wired with ref from here a 30A coil hooked up to the negative (black) female 5mm bullet and the positive on the yellow phase, I've tried all the phase plugs to no avail. I've tried both controllers x2 Mini-E too. Swapped L1 and L2 on the Elteck with no change in voltage polarity as expected, but to test current output. Also tried the std 57V 4Ah LiFePO 4 charger which barely even registers the voltage on the charging page. 'Charge' does appear on the main screen. Eltek measured at coil 53.5V on charging screen 45-47v rolling randomly.

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Custom batt setting 3.65 Max, 2.9 Min, 3.3 Bal, 2.5 Crit, 92 HV, 65 LV, 1718 wh, 20ah, Supply Current 37A (tried 10A up to 30A as well), Batt current 20A (tried 5A - 20A too)
(Charge settings - Charge Enabled - Charge Cutoff 92V) return main screen (Left button - Press Up to Charge)
Reading 83V tiz why I want to charge. 26S has been setup in the BMS menu. CH A 1#4 2#4 3#4 4#4 5#4 6#4 7#2.

1) Does it matter what phase you plug the charging coil into?
2) On initial setup (HV, LV, Batt ah, Batt Wh) it has set the battery at 100%, will it charge even with this?
3) On the Stats page Main - Right - Up I've tried update capacity to drop it from 100% but it either a) returns to stat page b) goes to a blank screen c) button press appears to have no effect.
4) All I can think is the 100% 'fuel gauge' reading is inhibiting the charge cycle, is this right?
5) Am i going to have to individually charge each cell to get around the 100% charge?

It's going to be something so damn obvious, I just can't see it atm :D.
Any help with this would be much appreciated,
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Post by Allex » Sep 14 2015 9:49am

Well I hope you charge while all your phases are connected to controller.

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Post by Brake » Sep 14 2015 3:29pm

26s times 3.3 = 85.8v

It isn't balancing is it? I would up those bms settings at first and see. Are any of your cells at 3.3v?

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Post by ccmdr » Sep 15 2015 4:09am

It was something simple stupid, switch inline from the + side of charging coil for drain free perm mounting needed to be ++ not -+, default -++ :D . Sods law. Now charging so high I'm having to replace some banana plugs where the insulation is melting, and at only 15A.
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Post by Lurkin » Sep 23 2015 9:29pm

Is it possible to upload data from the adaptto controller/display via USB to a PC?

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Post by Adaptto E-Drives Lab » Sep 29 2015 5:53am

Lurkin wrote:Is it possible to upload data from the adaptto controller/display via USB to a PC?
No it's not currently possible.


Hello Everyone!

Please check out our new connection scheme!

Hope this will simplify the wiring process in the future.
The large-scale interactive scheme can be found here: http://adaptto.com/Support/

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Post by Hyena » Sep 29 2015 6:02am

Adaptto E-Drives Lab wrote:Best of luck!
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Post by Allex » Oct 13 2015 11:30am

It is not Friday yet, but It is Black Friday prices!
If you want to get Adaptto controller for cheap, this is the time guys.

MAX-e as low as 620USD($690 normal price) on top of that you get ON/off option for free(20USD) and free shipping
Mini-e 410USD ON/off included and free shipping.

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Post by Mammalian04 » Oct 13 2015 12:30pm

Hi Allex, you were putting together a package for me, can we go ahead and start that now with the better prices? Are theses prices for the 14KW MaxE?

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Post by Allex » Oct 13 2015 1:04pm

No that is 10kW ones, 14 will be much more expensive.

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Post by ziltoid81 » Oct 13 2015 7:59pm

Do they have PAS?

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Post by gensem » Oct 14 2015 8:12am

Allex wrote:No that is 10kW ones, 14 will be much more expensive.
Allex, do you have an ETA on the new 14kw controller?
Also do you know whats the changes will be?
Im expecting better mosfets, better cooling using the case as a big heatsink like infineons, ceramic caps and thicker wires.
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Post by Allex » Oct 14 2015 10:31am

PAS is extra option.
The new controllers will be exactly the same, I mean same case and same internals, probably bigger DC wires but same caps and FETs. I think they made minor adjustments on the PCB board layout, thats it - but I am not 100% sure on this. DR bass have opened one in his last video and he did not see any difference.

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Post by moonshine » Oct 16 2015 10:42pm

when are the 14kw controllers coming out?
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Post by Mammalian04 » Oct 16 2015 10:54pm

moonshine wrote:when are the 14kw controllers coming out?

Ahhh!!!! That-a-boy Moonshine! I knew we'd have you back in the game for hi power soon.

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Post by Adaptto E-Drives Lab » Nov 03 2015 4:45am

Hello Everyone!

Welcoming November and the season of new builds with a bunch of news:

1) Revised controllers (improved Power PCB) are now ready for sale! Each controller is equipped with PAS and On/Off switch by default from NOW!

2) Brand new Midi-E controller

3) Already 2 official dealers for more convenience


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Post by cwah » Nov 03 2015 5:09am

How's the nominal power calculated? The battery current remains the same and there is a small increase in phase current??
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Post by Doctorbass » Nov 03 2015 4:20pm

cwah wrote:How's the nominal power calculated? The battery current remains the same and there is a small increase in phase current??

No, You need batt current to be increased. The max safe power occure at about max 85V(Under load) on these controller. that mean 14000/85= 165A.
But i am still not sure if that 165A batt current is on the locked or unlocked version. My guess is that this is on the unlocked version.

The two 14kW that i got can be set to about 130A max on the batt side...

I have to ask Andrey about that to clarify once for all about that important detail :wink:

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Post by Rix » Nov 03 2015 5:55pm

I am predicting that the MidI will sell more than both the minI and MaxE

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Post by Allex » Nov 03 2015 6:13pm

Doc, Adaptto will release a new firmware that will make it possible to go step up to 140DC amps for your controllers.
There is no limit when you unlock the controller.
Yea Rick, Midi is pretty neat!

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Post by Ohbse » Nov 03 2015 7:49pm

I presume Mini is 6fet, Midi is 12fet and max is 18?

Why the non-linear progression in rated power? Logically I would expect 4/8/12kw rating, or even 4/8/10 based on non-linear nature of current sharing among switching devices. I realise of course that these are capable of running much higher than this rating, just curious as to the methodology used to arrive at the rating. I run my mini daily with unlocked firmware at 7kw.

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Post by DasDouble » Nov 03 2015 10:43pm

@Ohbse: Are you shure about 7kW? Where do you life? For shure somewhere in a cold region.. The controler will get hot really soon if you ask me... :O
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Post by Rix » Nov 04 2015 12:12pm

Ohbse wrote:I presume Mini is 6fet, Midi is 12fet and max is 18?

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I am thinking the Mini E is a 6Fet, the Midi E is a 9Fet, and the Max E is a 12Fet. I say this because my Max E is just a bit smaller than my 18 Fet and half the size as my 24Fet Controllers.

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Post by Metallover » Nov 04 2015 1:34pm

The Max-E is an 18 fet

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