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Post by ravkill » Jan 31 2018 2:08pm

Alex Imreh wrote:
Jan 31 2018 1:48am
just started some tests with a Mxus V3 (3kw) on this frame, could you please share your experience, confirm, complete info in bellow table? with 26" wheel, and no more than 100kg load (passenger with winter clothes)

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http://www.ebikes.ca/tools/simulator.ht ... t=B4823_AC

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It's depend, of your type of Mxus V3 turbo. Mxus v3 3K-Turbo 3000W 45H (16x4 =4T) - on 26" rim = 1 km/h per 1 V (48 v = 48 km/h)
... but all types are:
10x6=6T, 12x5=5T, 16x4=4T, 21x3=3T. ... 21x3 is faster, 12x5 is slower (but with more torque). You must specify exact model... (speed =T):

https://mxus.en.alibaba.com/product/607 ... 4f9eCatGjZ

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Post by Alex Imreh » Jan 31 2018 3:05pm

We were able to use 26" with 2.4", but 26" with 2.5" was already too big for the standard Vector swing arm so radius less than 35mm.
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Post by Alex Imreh » Jan 31 2018 3:39pm

I repeat again: tests & simulations, with Vector 3kw hub, with Vector Light and 1.5kw hub or Bafang middrive, to find optimal combination for long range and decent speed acceleration, i talk about e-bikes as speed pedalecs not as moto bikes, i talk about efficient pedalling not small electric motorcycle. What is optimal Voltage for battery, with optimal cruising speed on flat road, to make longest range?
Each engine at what voltage/speed is most efficient? For example a big hub can consume less at 25-35km/h than a middrive?
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Post by ravkill » Jan 31 2018 4:08pm

In your conditions, you must use a slow hub motor with FOC controller -example of motor: Nine Continent RH2809 D (7x9) or Mxus V 3 turbo with slow winding (example - 10x6=6T, or 12x5=5T). You will loose speed, but you increase efficiency...

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Post by Artur » Feb 01 2018 12:23pm

fatbike swingarm size http://vectorebike.com/gallery/photos/1 ... att-3.html
we can add it to the frame for no extra cost if you need fatbike swingarm , not a standart one. most of the clients use moto rims on a back, with standart swingarm it is ok for 18: and 19: moto rims.

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Post by Alex Imreh » Feb 01 2018 3:01pm

Artur wrote:
Feb 01 2018 12:23pm
fatbike swingarm size http://vectorebike.com/gallery/photos/1 ... att-3.html
we can add it to the frame for no extra cost if you need fatbike swingarm , not a standart one. most of the clients use moto rims on a back, with standart swingarm it is ok for 18: and 19: moto rims.
What do you mean by - "we can add it to the frame for no extra cost if you need fatbike swingarm". When i ordered 2 frames i had the intention of using 135 dropout and 27.5" rims, see for example here the trend for many brand ebikes - http://design-innovation-award.com/winn ... nduro-180/

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Post by Artur » Feb 02 2018 10:03am

ok, I can replace your standart swing arms to fatbike swingarms if you want. should have asked me..

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Post by Artur » Feb 02 2018 10:06am

btw. on a web site was written 26" max.. so I dont understand why you so surprised 27.5 don't fit is a standart one.

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Post by Alex Imreh » Feb 02 2018 3:25pm

English language - Dropouts 135mm or 155mm (adjustable), Wheels: max26” or 26”fatbike with fat bike swingarm (up to 40cm radius).
If anybody reads this, i guess that it is not clear, it was for sure misleading for me.
I got swing arm that i can not adjust and swing arm with less than 35cm radius not 40cm radius.
Now a new swing arm would mean 17Euro bank fee and 40euro DHL shipping?
If i could pay with credit card, or through TransferWise to avoid bank fees, if you could arrange shipping, i would rather pay another swing arm.
Artur I think that in future you could make a list with available swing arms, than clients could have clear information and choose between
1# swing arm with 155mm dropout and 35mm radius, 2# swing arm with 135mm dropout and xx radius, 3# swing arm with xx dropout and 40cm radius, or something like this, for me it is still not clear what are the options, what swing arms you can provide.
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Post by DriftTrike » Feb 06 2018 5:24pm

If you buy the fatbike swing arm, it seems the maximum front crank you can fit is a 38T. Artur, let us know if this is accurate.

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Post by ScooterMan101 » Mar 28 2018 11:36am

When are you going to have available for sale ...

A Light Frame , that has a swing arm like the NYX frame and/or the F.U.T.R. Beta frame ?

and

The Front main body of the frame made with the dimensions that will allow for 140 of the newer 2170 batteries ?

And

A swing arm long enough to fit a small motor between the mount for the shock and the BB area , enough to fit in a small motor to be used as a mid-drive directly from that spot back to the axle.
When can that be available ?



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Are you ready kids? New product for sale is just received in warehouse :)

Starting from 18.12 ;)
My first conversion ... Sold

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It's 2018 already, ( now 2019 ) lets get some real , improved e-bike / e-velomobile / e-motorcycle designs .

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Post by cwah » Mar 31 2018 6:19am

Has anyone tried to commute or drive in city center with the motoseat? Is it seen as illegal motorbike or as a bicycle?
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Post by DasDouble » Apr 02 2018 7:37am

cwah wrote:
Mar 31 2018 6:19am
Has anyone tried to commute or drive in city center with the motoseat? Is it seen as illegal motorbike or as a bicycle?
Damn, I have so many storys about that hahaha.. Well the police seems always like they would love to stop me with all my dirtbikegear on, pedaling with 20 kph near by them haha but they never act fast enough. The good thing is they can´t follow me through the city where all the pedastrians are with their big mercedes. I would not risk it to ride through the city with a moto seat like I did. I always stay at the landscape. :mrgreen:

Edit: Once I rode it through the next big city and the police saw me while they passed me in their team-bus, like the big police car where more then 5 people fit inside. The drive looked at me like that guy Image
(the same like everyone does when they see me with my bike haha :mrgreen: ).. I immediately went into a sidewalk behind a truck where they couldn´t see me and waited there for like 5 minutes. After 2-3 minutes I heared the sirenes of tha police, passing by. After some time I started laughing really hard and went home again lol :lol:

Conclusion: Do not ride above 25km/h, don´t act nervous when they see you and always have a password-mode activated so they couldn´t make it faster in case they do stop you. + Always check that your pas-system works. As long as its not accellerating super-fast, they can not make it faster by their own and you have to pedal in case of a controller, shit should be fine. Anyway I always try to not get controlled as Im still not sure if they would say its cool or if its not safe enough for the street. Oh and then you are 100% safe if your displays doesn´t show a voltage above 48volts because at least in germany you would need some special tests (I think at least as a company), if you want to use that as its "high voltage" and "super dangerous" (bs).
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Post by Merlin » Apr 02 2018 1:27pm

man....youre a serious o.g. :mrgreen:

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Post by macribs » Apr 11 2018 10:47am

Artur, how goes the process of starting to sell Sur Ron in EU? Did you manage to get the Sur Ron road legal as a 45 km/h moped or possible even A1?

I remember you talked about this before christmas but since then I have not seen anything more. Let us know how things goes with the Sur Ron for EU.

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Post by DasDouble » Apr 11 2018 12:53pm

macribs wrote:
Apr 11 2018 10:47am
Artur, how goes the process of starting to sell Sur Ron in EU? Did you manage to get the Sur Ron road legal as a 45 km/h moped or possible even A1?

I remember you talked about this before christmas but since then I have not seen anything more. Let us know how things goes with the Sur Ron for EU.
He made a blog about that on his youtube channel before. Check that out. :)
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Post by macribs » Apr 11 2018 4:32pm

The video is that the one Artur made like a in november? 4 months later things should have improved from factory, I think Sur Ron did motor upgrade already maybe even some other things. Artur was gonna get the Sur Ron road legal, and that is a big issue to avoid legal problems because the bike don't have pedals.

Let us know how things are coming along Artur. Are the factory working with you to meet your demands?

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Post by DasDouble » Apr 12 2018 7:06am

Oh I didn´t checked the date. :pancake:
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Post by macribs » Apr 21 2018 9:14am

Hm I wonder if Artur has moved on to other things? Seems like it has been two and half month without any posts from him in this thread. Wonder why?

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Post by Dumsterdave » Apr 23 2018 4:14am

macribs wrote:
Apr 21 2018 9:14am
Hm I wonder if Artur has moved on to other things? Seems like it has been two and half month without any posts from him in this thread. Wonder why?
I was wondering the same :/

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Post by efMX Trials Electric Freeride » Apr 23 2018 9:34am

Dumsterdave wrote:
Apr 23 2018 4:14am
macribs wrote:
Apr 21 2018 9:14am
Hm I wonder if Artur has moved on to other things? Seems like it has been two and half month without any posts from him in this thread. Wonder why?
I was wondering the same :/
Vector facebook is still active (promoting their mid drive etc) ..

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Post by macribs » Apr 23 2018 9:49am

I wouldn't know as fb is the devils work :)

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Post by efMX Trials Electric Freeride » Apr 23 2018 10:48am

macribs wrote:
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I wouldn't know as fb is the devils work :)
I like fb to follow all my favorite vendors and EV groups, etc so it's really handy for that.. all the latest EV news in your "feed" so you don't have to go hunt it down.. but I'm definitely not a fan of the company or management with all their privacy violations and free speech suppression, so its a double edged sword:(
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Post by macribs » Apr 23 2018 1:11pm

Yeah I know, I am an old old fart sat in my ways long before the dawn of facebook.
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Thing is I was working IT since the early days and when facebook was live and happening they ticked all my boxes of what an IT company should NOT do. And it became more and more obvious over the years why facebook was free for all. The non paying customer base was the product. I know I miss out on the ease of use and that there are many benefits for users of facebook, but it's like with the devil. Once you sold your soul, deal is done. Ain't no going back.

So I keep missing out every now and then but lucky for me we still got active and well working knowledge based communities like ES that are still going strong.

Btw, vendors that keep all their eggs in one basket (facebook) are just plain lazy and if I might say so a wee bit ignorant at best too. Rather then building their own brand and brand recognition they take the "easy route" and focus solely on facebook as outlet. Trusting their hard work to a platform that explicit say they take ownership of all of their users input and data for now and forever. In the process those vendors are alienating about 40% of the world consumers the people without facebook, putting all their hard work and effort into a platform they don't control themselves and they are shit out of luck if said platform one day size to exist. The sane choice would be to focus on their own platform first and foremost and then scrape content to face. Building brand, taking outlet control and staying in control. Marketing 101

As an example look at all the missing pics in all around this forum. Some the cause of a forum software problem. But most of the missing pics are due to one of the biggest photo hosting sites suddenly changing their user agreements. Suddenly photos linked to third parties are no longer free of use, even for personal use. By changing their rules, we the ES forum lost probably thousands of images scattered around several hundred of threads spanning like ten years back. What a private company might do in the future we never know. Just make sure you don't get the short end of the stick if changes are coming.

Btw this rant was not targeted to Artur or any other here on the forum, it is just an observation I made and I felt like venting as controlling ones data and userinput is dear and true to my heart.

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Post by Paragon » May 05 2018 5:30pm

Are these still for sale for 599?
Also, how much is the motoseat addon?

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