Nucular electronics - complete kit for ev! [beta]

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Re: Nucular electronics - complete kit for ev! [beta]

Post by Peterfr12 » Jun 21 2019 5:29am

Hi Merlin,

Thanks for your message.
which Trp eMTB are you speaking off?
the TRP G-SPEC E-MTB or the TRP ZURICH?

and where can I purchase them online?

best
P.

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Post by Merlin » Jun 21 2019 5:36am

yes G-SPEC E-MTB

be sure reading description that the rotors can be 2.3mm thick.
if you google G-SPEC E-MTB bunch of dealers.

if you need or want the ugly long lever... LMX has them as a set incl rotors.

https://lmxbikes.com/en/chassis-parts/8 ... r-lmx.html

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Post by icherouveim » Jun 21 2019 5:38am

Peterfr12 wrote:
Jun 21 2019 5:29am
Hi Merlin,

Thanks for your message.
which Trp eMTB are you speaking off?
the TRP G-SPEC E-MTB or the TRP ZURICH?

and where can I purchase them online?

best
P.
I've bought mine from:
https://www.empoweredcycles.com/product ... 03mm-front

Merlin is right, I have them two years already!
Now as I can see there is a new 4 pistons model available for high speed ebikes.

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Post by PITMIX » Jun 21 2019 6:42am

hello I received my engine Qs138 70H it is monstrous !! I wonder if it would not be better to order a Nucular 24F instead of 12F...
Ihave preorder N°352C


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Post by PITMIX » Jun 21 2019 8:28am

I have 3kW Qs motor. It's possible to change my preorder ?
I have a 20s 60Ah LG Chem battery. I hope that is good to the 24F !
My little car is very hight 400kg !!
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Post by PITMIX » Jun 21 2019 8:34am

Thank you very much ! You think my battery will be powerful enough for the 24F? They are NMC cells.

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Post by icherouveim » Jun 21 2019 2:18pm

PITMIX wrote:
Jun 21 2019 8:34am
Thank you very much ! You think my battery will be powerful enough for the 24F? They are NMC cells.
if you have the data sheet of the cells I can tell you.

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Post by PITMIX » Jun 21 2019 2:48pm

No but all is here...
viewtopic.php?t=90395

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Post by icherouveim » Jun 22 2019 2:31am

PITMIX wrote:
Jun 21 2019 2:48pm
No but all is here...
viewtopic.php?t=90395
From what I see with a quick look your battery pack is capable for up to 600A peak power.
BUT this battery pack comes with a liquid cooling solution.
You have only a part of the battery pack so the cooling system doesn't work.

24F Nucular controller will support up to 300 battery amps this is serious power and you should be careful not to fry your pack without cooling it can be dangerous.
The solution is to install one or two temp sensors to be at the safe side.

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Post by Feist92 » Jun 22 2019 5:58pm

Hi Vasili
I tried to send you a PM but my message wouldnt send.
Im quite interested in a 12F to run my rotomax 150 build.
I saw somewhere that the erpm limit is 100k. Is that for FOC or just 6 step? If I terminate this motor in wye I can stay under that number.
Out of the list of possible temperature sensors you have listed on the wiki page is there one that you prefer over others?
Are the hall sensors using a jst connector on the board? (sorry I couldnt find that info anywhere but I probably missed it)
How long is the waiting list for a 12F? and have the priced changed at all?
Also what payment method do you take?

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Post by VasiliSk » Jun 23 2019 4:23am

Hello,
I got your message, will reply here
I should warn you about running RC motors, with these you may not achieve full phase current due to high current ripple. Also you may need to make some fine tuning of PID regulators to make it work. I had chance to setup one rc-motor bike and it work not that good, either for bad manually placed hall sensors or just low motor L/R. Yes there 100kERPM software limitation atm.
Check schematics on wiki.nucular.tech connectors PHD2.0 2x3
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Post by madin88 » Jun 23 2019 7:10am

Feist92 wrote:
Jun 22 2019 5:58pm
Hi Vasili
I tried to send you a PM but my message wouldnt send.
Im quite interested in a 12F to run my rotomax 150 build.
I saw somewhere that the erpm limit is 100k. Is that for FOC or just 6 step? If I terminate this motor in wye I can stay under that number.
I am running a Neu 8057 RC motor (also changed the winding from delta to star), and aside from the thing that controller cuts out if i set more than 180A phase (on early version 12F controller with 200A limit) it is running efficient and smooth with just doing autodetect.
The next days i will flash to the latest firmware and try to fine tune mentioned PID regulators for FOC.

It depends on many things if RC motors will work well or not so.
Aside from L/R also BEMF waveform plays a role and it should be sinewave for optimal performance and lowest current ripple.
If you change the winding from delta to star it would be ALOT easier for the controller because the inductance will go up by factor 3-4.

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Post by Feist92 » Jun 24 2019 11:55pm

In star it should be 33mOhm, 54microH and 86.5kv which (I think) is 62,300erpm (based on 10 pole pairs and 72v pack)
It has a fairly sinusoidal commutation so from what Ive read it should be fairly easy to drive??
I might just have to bite the bullet and try it out
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Post by redline2097 » Jun 25 2019 2:49am

VasiliSk wrote:
Jun 19 2019 12:20pm
Some of users were asking about bug/feature list, so i made one and will keep it updating :
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... DI/pubhtml
Add traction control to the list. Nice with 4-wheelers. :)


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Post by bigbore » Jun 25 2019 12:08pm

Any news about this?
Thermo Nucular Controller 24F - testing... (approx. 500~600$, ETA middle of 2019)


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Re: Nucular electronics - complete kit for ev! [beta]

Post by bigbore » Jun 25 2019 12:29pm

Thank you.
And what about this?
24S Nucular BMS for any kind controller - planned
When will the 24S BMS be available to buy with 24F controllers?


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Post by tomarth » Jun 27 2019 7:47am

VasiliSk wrote:I had chance to setup one rc-motor bike and it work not that good, either for bad manually placed hall sensors or just low motor L/R.
I thought that RC motors would run reasonably well with of your implementation FOC. I thought FOC doesn't need hall sensors?

Is FOC mode able to reach 100,000 eRPM, or is this just for Square Mode ATM?

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Post by agniusm » Jun 27 2019 1:19pm

How does controller power distributes over voltage? Is it linear, say 14S would give 3.2kW nominal on 12F?

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Re: Nucular electronics - complete kit for ev! [beta]

Post by VasiliSk » Jun 27 2019 1:38pm

Power numbers just for reference, look at the current rating and multiply to voltage. Continuous is like 50% but mostly depends on cooling and may be higher or lower

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