15/18F Silent Controller 36-150V BT-iOS-Android/GPS-$179-199

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Re: 15/18F Silent Controller 36-150V BT-iOS-Android/GPS-$179-199

Post by 999zip999 » Mar 28 2019 1:11am

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Post by neptronix » May 23 2019 6:53pm

Hey PV dude..
I saw a couple videos on youtube of your spinning up motors with the 24fet or another controller.
As many of us know, spinning up an RC motor is one thing.. getting it to work under load is another ;)

I'm wondering what the maximum eRPM limit is on these?
And what is the craziest high speed motor a customer is running.

I want to run an astro 3220 in sensorless. It is said to be 8 pole and will be spun at a max of 5500rpm ( low voltage setup )
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Post by Powervelocity.com » May 24 2019 11:52am

The controllers are rated up to 50K eRPM when running in sensored mode.
In sensorless, they seem to have no problems running higher eRPMs.
In your case, your top eRPMs are 44K, so that's well within the limit.

However, I am hoping to have a VESC based controller ready for production soon. That one would be rated up to 100K eRPM and should have better support for low inductance motors.

neptronix wrote:
May 23 2019 6:53pm
Hey PV dude..
I saw a couple videos on youtube of your spinning up motors with the 24fet or another controller.
As many of us know, spinning up an RC motor is one thing.. getting it to work under load is another ;)

I'm wondering what the maximum eRPM limit is on these?
And what is the craziest high speed motor a customer is running.

I want to run an astro 3220 in sensorless. It is said to be 8 pole and will be spun at a max of 5500rpm ( low voltage setup )

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Post by neptronix » May 24 2019 1:28pm

Powervelocity.com wrote:
May 24 2019 11:52am
However, I am hoping to have a VESC based controller ready for production soon. That one would be rated up to 100K eRPM and should have better support for low inductance motors.
:!:

That would be a game changer, sir.
How many FETs would this VESC based controller have, and do you have any estimates on when it will be available?

I have heard that the VESC v6's upper limit is 150k eRPM, which is just enough to squeeze ~90% of the power out of a turnigy rotomax 150cc equivalent, IE 9000 watts out of a 5.5lbs motor.. :shock:
The old v4.x is said to have a limit of 60keRPM, which would make it a glorified ebike controller.

Source: https://vesc-project.com/node/183
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Post by Powervelocity.com » May 24 2019 6:27pm

The first model is using 12 TO-247 mosfets and three shunt architecture (i.e. v6) which provides best possible control over torque and RPMs.
neptronix wrote:
May 24 2019 1:28pm
Powervelocity.com wrote:
May 24 2019 11:52am
However, I am hoping to have a VESC based controller ready for production soon. That one would be rated up to 100K eRPM and should have better support for low inductance motors.
:!:

That would be a game changer, sir.
How many FETs would this VESC based controller have, and do you have any estimates on when it will be available?

I have heard that the VESC v6's upper limit is 150k eRPM, which is just enough to squeeze ~90% of the power out of a turnigy rotomax 150cc equivalent, IE 9000 watts out of a 5.5lbs motor.. :shock:
The old v4.x is said to have a limit of 60keRPM, which would make it a glorified ebike controller.

Source: https://vesc-project.com/node/183

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Post by neptronix » May 24 2019 6:55pm

12fet? hell yes! :bigthumb:
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Re: 15/18F Silent Controller 36-150V BT-iOS-Android/GPS-$179-199

Post by matschi140 » Jun 06 2019 2:49am

Hello,

I am Interested in buying one of these controllers, i am using now sabvoton, and i am not happy at all with it.

Its planned for a e-scooter 60V60AH battery, peak power about 5kw.

Also the GPS Function is very nice :-)

Where can i order?

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Post by Powervelocity.com » Jun 06 2019 3:52pm

Can be ordered here:
http://powervelocity.com/home/48-18f-eb ... e-8kw.html

For GPS and 12v converter, please send a request to sales@powervelocity.com
matschi140 wrote:
Jun 06 2019 2:49am
Hello,

I am Interested in buying one of these controllers, i am using now sabvoton, and i am not happy at all with it.

Its planned for a e-scooter 60V60AH battery, peak power about 5kw.

Also the GPS Function is very nice :-)

Where can i order?

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Re: 15/18F Silent Controller 36-150V BT-iOS-Android/GPS-$179-199

Post by dventu » Dec 04 2019 9:43pm

Is anyone receive a response from the sales email? I've been trying to order a Bluetooth module.


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Re: 15/18F Silent Controller 36-150V BT-iOS-Android/GPS-$179-199

Post by 999zip999 » Aug 22 2020 4:39pm

Got my 18fet BT and don't understand why the C.A. is plugged into the module ? Can I use the 6pin for my C A. V3 or just my phone is now for display. And can I use my phone for both my 15 and 18fet controller do I have to reset for just one or the other ? As I had problems when I got a new phone and didn't shut old phone down . Still don't know what shut down. But was returned and need to plug in ?

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Post by Powervelocity.com » Aug 22 2020 8:05pm

You can unplug the CA connector from the BT module and plug it into the CA if you like.
In that case, the phone will not be showing telemetry, but programming will work.

In other words, you can use the CA connector either with the BT or with the CA. If you make a splitter, you can technically plug both and it will work that way on the phone and on the CA.
999zip999 wrote:
Aug 22 2020 4:39pm
Got my 18fet BT and don't understand why the C.A. is plugged into the module ? Can I use the 6pin for my C A. V3 or just my phone is now for display. And can I use my phone for both my 15 and 18fet controller do I have to reset for just one or the other ? As I had problems when I got a new phone and didn't shut old phone down . Still don't know what shut down. But was returned and need to plug in ?

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Post by 999zip999 » Aug 22 2020 10:56pm

Then I can shrink wrap it and velcro it to the frame ? Just hang it ?

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Post by 999zip999 » Aug 24 2020 6:03pm

I unplugged the BT module and plugged in CA and now replugging the module I have two options for the two wire black plug does it go on the program side or the ca side of the module azerrz a 2 pin on both sides of the module I should have took a picture first can someone shoot a picture how it should be plugged in and what are the two black wires ?
and where you guys hanging your Bluetooth module should I just put a big piece of shrink wrap on it and Valkyrie somewhere on the frame how delicate is this thing ?

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Post by Powervelocity.com » Aug 24 2020 6:37pm

You can find instructions here:
http://powervelocity.com/blog/bluetooth-module/

Be careful when you plug it in. If plugged incorrectly, the module can get fried.

You can bundle the module into the wire harness. I put it inside the frame. Some people put it in the battery bag. Depends on how your bike is set up.
999zip999 wrote:
Aug 24 2020 6:03pm
I unplugged the BT module and plugged in CA and now replugging the module I have two options for the two wire black plug does it go on the program side or the ca side of the module azerrz a 2 pin on both sides of the module I should have took a picture first can someone shoot a picture how it should be plugged in and what are the two black wires ?
and where you guys hanging your Bluetooth module should I just put a big piece of shrink wrap on it and Valkyrie somewhere on the frame how delicate is this thing ?

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Re: 15/18F Silent Controller 36-150V BT-iOS-Android/GPS-$179-199

Post by DtiK » Oct 13 2020 3:07pm

Are these or 12F still available?

What was thing mentioned about Cyclone, do these work sensored with 3000W cyclone motor?

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Re: 15/18F Silent Controller 36-150V BT-iOS-Android/GPS-$179-199

Post by Jamzz » Oct 13 2020 5:57pm

DtiK wrote:
Oct 13 2020 3:07pm
Are these or 12F still available?

What was thing mentioned about Cyclone, do these work sensored with 3000W cyclone motor?
Bump.

Curious about the 12F working with the cyclone 3000 as well.

THanks!

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Post by Powervelocity.com » Oct 14 2020 11:28am

It should work fine in sensorless mode.
As for sensored mode, I heard people had issues. Possibly due to noisy hall signals.
Jamzz wrote:
Oct 13 2020 5:57pm
DtiK wrote:
Oct 13 2020 3:07pm
Are these or 12F still available?

What was thing mentioned about Cyclone, do these work sensored with 3000W cyclone motor?
Bump.

Curious about the 12F working with the cyclone 3000 as well.

THanks!

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Re: 15/18F Silent Controller 36-150V BT-iOS-Android/GPS-$179-199

Post by DtiK » Oct 15 2020 10:54am

Powervelocity.com wrote:
Oct 14 2020 11:28am
It should work fine in sensorless mode.
As for sensored mode, I heard people had issues. Possibly due to noisy hall signals.


What it means in terms of performance or operation to run this controller in sensorless mode?

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Post by Powervelocity.com » Oct 15 2020 12:38pm

For this motor, it won't make much difference.
DtiK wrote:
Oct 15 2020 10:54am
Powervelocity.com wrote:
Oct 14 2020 11:28am
It should work fine in sensorless mode.
As for sensored mode, I heard people had issues. Possibly due to noisy hall signals.


What it means in terms of performance or operation to run this controller in sensorless mode?

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Post by methods » Nov 14 2020 12:55am

I read the two flags, so what is the deal?

Was buyer legitimate?
If so, did seller return funds or ship goods?

-methods
Increasing battery voltage and controller current limit will result in a non linear experience

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Re: 15/18F Silent Controller 36-150V BT-iOS-Android/GPS-$179-199

Post by FL bomber » Dec 28 2020 10:10am

My controller Crystalyte 18fet on my stealth
Is blown. Would this controller be a good substitute? I want to continue using my cav3.
My battery is 30q 20s12p.

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Post by Powervelocity.com » Dec 28 2020 6:22pm

As long as you stay under 70A battery current, it will work fine.
For more power, I would recommend the NextGen controller (see in the signature line).
FL bomber wrote:
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My controller Crystalyte 18fet on my stealth
Is blown. Would this controller be a good substitute? I want to continue using my cav3.
My battery is 30q 20s12p.

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