12F Sine/Silent 36-100v/45A Controller iOS/Android,GPS-$139

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Re: 12F Sine/Silent 36-100v/45A Controller iOS/Android,GPS-$

Post by Powervelocity.com » Jul 12 2017 10:44am

I may get to this later, it's just not on the priority list. It would be a hardware and software mod.
izeman wrote:Thanks for the invoice! One more question as I'd like to have torque throttle mode and you mentioned that it's on the future feature list: is the firmware user upgradeable? Or will i need to buy a new controller? I haven't seen that question asked before.

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Post by izeman » Jul 12 2017 1:10pm

Powervelocity.com wrote:I may get to this later, it's just not on the priority list. It would be a hardware and software mod.
so if i buy i now, i won't have a way to upgrade it? or will there be an "upgrade kit"?
if there are features like "torque throttle" that only "new" users may get, then it may be better to wait?

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Post by Powervelocity.com » Jul 12 2017 1:39pm

I can't tell you if and when this is going to happen. The throttle response is good as is, it's just not a priority at the moment.
izeman wrote:
Powervelocity.com wrote:I may get to this later, it's just not on the priority list. It would be a hardware and software mod.
so if i buy i now, i won't have a way to upgrade it? or will there be an "upgrade kit"?
if there are features like "torque throttle" that only "new" users may get, then it may be better to wait?


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Re: 12F Sine/Silent 36-100v/45A Controller iOS/Android,GPS-$139

Post by Ecyclist » Jan 15 2018 12:48am

Is 6 FETs controller with Bluetooth available? I don't see it on your website.
What is max amp. at 36V on the 6 FETs controller?
BTW: Your app design is fantastic.
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Post by Powervelocity.com » Jan 15 2018 3:52pm

Yes, BT is available on all controllers from 3F to 24F. 30A is the max rating for 6F.
Please PM for details.
Ecyclist wrote:
Jan 15 2018 12:48am
Is 6 FETs controller with Bluetooth available? I don't see it on your website.
What is max amp. at 36V on the 6 FETs controller?
BTW: Your app design is fantastic.

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Re: 12F Sine/Silent 36-100v/45A Controller iOS/Android,GPS-$139

Post by Ecyclist » Jan 15 2018 6:42pm

Powervelocity.com wrote:
Jan 15 2018 3:52pm
Yes, BT is available on all controllers from 3F to 24F. 30A is the max rating for 6F.
Please PM for details.
Ecyclist wrote:
Jan 15 2018 12:48am
Is 6 FETs controller with Bluetooth available? I don't see it on your website.
What is max amp. at 36V on the 6 FETs controller?
BTW: Your app design is fantastic.
30A is too low for my build. I will stick with VESC for now. Thank you anyway.
Don't expect from life to be easy and then it will be.
My builds:
Avian with hypocycloidal drive https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewt ... 2#p1318056
2016 GNG extreme drive https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewt ... 28&t=82252

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Re: 12F Sine/Silent 36-100v/45A Controller iOS/Android,GPS-$139

Post by Powervelocity.com » Jan 16 2018 1:19pm

Well, 12F will do 50A, and 24F maxes out at 200A (for the the top model).
6F is just a tiny controller for small builds up to 2-3kw.
Ecyclist wrote:
Jan 15 2018 6:42pm
Powervelocity.com wrote:
Jan 15 2018 3:52pm
Yes, BT is available on all controllers from 3F to 24F. 30A is the max rating for 6F.
Please PM for details.
Ecyclist wrote:
Jan 15 2018 12:48am
Is 6 FETs controller with Bluetooth available? I don't see it on your website.
What is max amp. at 36V on the 6 FETs controller?
BTW: Your app design is fantastic.
30A is too low for my build. I will stick with VESC for now. Thank you anyway.

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Re: 12F Sine/Silent 36-100v/45A Controller iOS/Android,GPS-$139

Post by altersack53 » Jan 22 2018 4:01am

hallo,
I'm new here and from Germany. I'd read about a lot of controllers here and at other forums and websites and i think your controller is that what I'm locking for, sine, BT and smoth.
My project is a mxus 3k V3, 4T, 24" fat rim(130 mm), 72V in a cruiser velo.
At first I will test my build whit a 12F controller.
I can't order on your website, in your shop. My question is
how and where can I order a 12F controller + BT ( if possible external BT) whit shipping to Germany
and summery price? Please let me know and help me!
Please PM for details.

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Post by Powervelocity.com » Jan 22 2018 4:41pm

PM sent.
altersack53 wrote:
Jan 22 2018 4:01am
hallo,
I'm new here and from Germany. I'd read about a lot of controllers here and at other forums and websites and i think your controller is that what I'm locking for, sine, BT and smoth.
My project is a mxus 3k V3, 4T, 24" fat rim(130 mm), 72V in a cruiser velo.
At first I will test my build whit a 12F controller.
I can't order on your website, in your shop. My question is
how and where can I order a 12F controller + BT ( if possible external BT) whit shipping to Germany
and summery price? Please let me know and help me!
Please PM for details.

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Re: 12F Sine/Silent 36-100v/45A Controller iOS/Android,GPS-$139

Post by altersack53 » Apr 10 2018 6:35am

hallo PV,
thank you for your PM
I've got a 12F controller from a friend some days ago to test my build , without BT,
and now i can't find any working link to the software to programm it.
Please can you send me a link or a zip-file for your 12F controller?

Thanks

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Re: 12F Sine/Silent 36-100v/45A Controller iOS/Android,GPS-$139

Post by Powervelocity.com » Apr 11 2018 11:45am

If you want to try to program via wire, you will need to have the cable with USB-TTL at the very least.
I have the old software for wired programming but I don't support or provide any warranties for that. I'll PM you a copy.
altersack53 wrote:
Apr 10 2018 6:35am
hallo PV,
thank you for your PM
I've got a 12F controller from a friend some days ago to test my build , without BT,
and now i can't find any working link to the software to programm it.
Please can you send me a link or a zip-file for your 12F controller?

Thanks

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Re: 12F Sine/Silent 36-100v/45A Controller iOS/Android,GPS-$139

Post by altersack53 » Apr 13 2018 2:11am

hallo PV,
that will be great!
Please send me email as soon as possible.
I'll prepare the bike for testing
thanks

horst

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Re: 12F Sine/Silent 36-100v/45A Controller iOS/Android,GPS-$139

Post by altersack53 » Apr 14 2018 3:29am

Hallo PV.
I have the 12Fcontroller and the cable USB-TTL,
only need your old software, I know there is no support any more
I' don't know I'll buy your 12F or 18F controller with BT
but at first test 12F, please send me a copy for 12F.
There will be a great whether this weekend in Erfurt/Thuringia/Germany !!!(for Testing)

Thanks

Horst

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Re: 12F Sine/Silent 36-100v/45A Controller iOS/Android,GPS-$139

Post by altersack53 » Apr 18 2018 4:24am

Hallo PV,

remember me!

Please send me the program ZIP for programming 12F via wire.

horst


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Re: 12F Sine/Silent 36-100v/45A Controller iOS/Android,GPS-$139

Post by Htfan » Apr 21 2018 9:19am

This looks like a great potential replacement for my Lyen 12f I have been running for years. The motor whine from my 9c and regen limitations are getting old.

Couple questions -

1) specs mention the regen voltage is configurable - so can we set the regen voltage to any specific voltage between 36v - 100v? (the Lyen I'm using only gives you a few limited options)

2) what is modification required for the Lyen programming cable to work with this controller?

Thank you!
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Re: 12F Sine/Silent 36-100v/45A Controller iOS/Android,GPS-$139

Post by Powervelocity.com » Apr 21 2018 6:21pm

Regen is programmable for any voltage within 55-100v for 100v version, up to 116v for 120v version and up to 147v for 150v version.

Bluetooth is highly recommended for hassle free parameter adjustments from the convenience of your phone. Cables and PC software are not supported anymore.
Htfan wrote:
Apr 21 2018 9:19am
This looks like a great potential replacement for my Lyen 12f I have been running for years. The motor whine from my 9c and regen limitations are getting old.

Couple questions -

1) specs mention the regen voltage is configurable - so can we set the regen voltage to any specific voltage between 36v - 100v? (the Lyen I'm using only gives you a few limited options)

2) what is modification required for the Lyen programming cable to work with this controller?

Thank you!

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Re: 12F Sine/Silent 36-100v/45A Controller iOS/Android,GPS-$139

Post by Htfan » Apr 21 2018 11:02pm

Powervelocity.com wrote:
Apr 21 2018 6:21pm
Bluetooth is highly recommended for hassle free parameter adjustments from the convenience of your phone. Cables and PC software are not supported anymore.
Appreciate the quick response! Is the Bluetooth interface included on the 12f version for $139?

That would be a better option.
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Post by Powervelocity.com » Apr 21 2018 11:15pm

Not included. The BT module is $99.
Htfan wrote:
Apr 21 2018 11:02pm
Powervelocity.com wrote:
Apr 21 2018 6:21pm
Bluetooth is highly recommended for hassle free parameter adjustments from the convenience of your phone. Cables and PC software are not supported anymore.
Appreciate the quick response! Is the Bluetooth interface included on the 12f version for $139?

That would be a better option.

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Re: 12F Sine/Silent 36-100v/45A Controller iOS/Android,GPS-$139

Post by Htfan » Apr 22 2018 8:27am

Powervelocity.com wrote:
Apr 21 2018 11:15pm
Not included. The BT module is $99.
Understand. So the 12fet would actually be $238.

Is the PC programming software still available even though not supported? Since I have a CA3, I have little use for the BT option except to program the controller every now and then.
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Re: 12F Sine/Silent 36-100v/45A Controller iOS/Android,GPS-$139

Post by Powervelocity.com » Apr 30 2018 11:30pm

I have it but it's only working in Win 7 and earlier versions of windows. It's just a lot of a hassle to use or support it. What I can do is I can program the controller to your requirements. You can use the PC software if you like, but it's just a waste of time if you ask me. I would happily pay someone $99 to not have to deal with it. But it's your call. PM and we'll make it work for you.
Htfan wrote:
Apr 22 2018 8:27am
Powervelocity.com wrote:
Apr 21 2018 11:15pm
Not included. The BT module is $99.
Understand. So the 12fet would actually be $238.

Is the PC programming software still available even though not supported? Since I have a CA3, I have little use for the BT option except to program the controller every now and then.

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Re: 12F Sine/Silent 36-100v/45A Controller iOS/Android,GPS-$139

Post by Htfan » May 02 2018 10:33am

Thank you, that makes sense. I also took a look at your 15f and 18f controllers. I may choose one of those since the Bluetooth option is only an additional $45 and a greater value. I'll PM you shortly.
Powervelocity.com wrote:
Apr 30 2018 11:30pm
I have it but it's only working in Win 7 and earlier versions of windows. It's just a lot of a hassle to use or support it. What I can do is I can program the controller to your requirements. You can use the PC software if you like, but it's just a waste of time if you ask me. I would happily pay someone $99 to not have to deal with it. But it's your call. PM and we'll make it work for you.
Htfan wrote:
Apr 22 2018 8:27am
Powervelocity.com wrote:
Apr 21 2018 11:15pm
Not included. The BT module is $99.
Understand. So the 12fet would actually be $238.

Is the PC programming software still available even though not supported? Since I have a CA3, I have little use for the BT option except to program the controller every now and then.
"Try not to become a man of success, but rather try to become a man of value."

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Re: 12F Sine/Silent 36-100v/45A Controller iOS/Android,GPS-$139

Post by madin88 » May 07 2018 2:11am

I would like to make pedal assistance working on a bike with mentioned controller.
There is no connector coming out for PAS, but i wonder if the board generally has input pins where it could be soldered?

Or do the latest BT modules feature PAS?

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Re: 12F Sine/Silent 36-100v/45A Controller iOS/Android,GPS-$139

Post by Powervelocity.com » May 07 2018 2:11pm

PAS is available on most controllers - you can try to tap into the TA pin on the board.
I tested it early in the days and it worked.

Alternatively, the latest/external version of BT module can control throttle and there are extra inputs available that can be used for PAS.
It would take a software update to make it work as the hardware is there already.
madin88 wrote:
May 07 2018 2:11am
I would like to make pedal assistance working on a bike with mentioned controller.
There is no connector coming out for PAS, but i wonder if the board generally has input pins where it could be soldered?

Or do the latest BT modules feature PAS?

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