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RE-CYCLES EBIKES & EV TECH

Post by eyebyesickle » Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:37 pm

NEWS - 9/12/17

In the process of heading back to Nashville/Restructuring, and setting up local.

NO MORE CUSTOM/HIGH POWER BUILDS/ETC , SORRY!

As much as I love the custom/high power stuff, going forward for now, I will occasionally make the high power bikes for sale, and then post, but stick to setting up reasonably priced street legal ebike stuff mostly.

More to come ASAP once we get properly setup/established locally, and online.

I still am teamed with / running the recycles e-bike store and providing support, FYI

I still have a bunch of high power components etc if you want to check, (rims, spokes, hubs, suspension, brakes, throttles, etc...) Basically stuff left over from my labor day/moving sale. So feel free to check and I'll clear out any remaining stock cheap, and ship next day, USA or Canada only.
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5kw, 3T, 8awg phase, alum core, dual halls, temp sensor - 17" moto rim w/ 10g spokes - $450 shipped
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Post by eyebyesickle » Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:24 pm

Reserved for restructuring/reopening
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Re: Budget High Power Frame, Kit, Components - US Distributo

Post by tiny_n_terrible » Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:15 pm

I will look for your stuff.

Just a question why sell a front fork that is so dangerous to use.

NOTE: ZOOM front suspension is NOT recommended. Regardless of the manufacturers description, there is NO real adjustable rebound, and NO lockout. It springs back, quite strong. However, if you insist on going as budget as you can, and please only ride street when doing so, then go ahead and order it through me for cheaper than anywhere else.

There are several reviews of this fake potmetal fork on endless sphere.

They are not good.

Why not find a safer fork and sell that.

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Fork Options

Post by eyebyesickle » Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:22 pm

EDIT - Took off the ZOOM fork

We have BLACK AND WHITE DNM USD-8 FORKS, $400 FREE SHIPPING, WORLDWIDE, WITHIN 2 WEEKS
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Re: Budget High Power Frame, Kit, Components - US Distributo

Post by Samd » Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:50 pm

That does look like a sensible design to take costs out and there will always be a market for this kind of thing.

Yes noted, you don't want lectures on suspension. Although the horizontal dropouts and the BB mounted on the swinger are good features for the money.
Those zoom forks really are dangerous on the rebound though. Please be careful with them, they are prono to pogo stick off a hard landing.
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FERROFLUID - MADE IN NASHVILLE, TN!

Post by eyebyesickle » Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:57 pm

EDIT - yeah, let the front zoom 'suspension' go

Totally, I added an extra note on the warning - I knew this front suspension would be an issue and I want to go on the record saying that I PERSONALLY CHOSE NOT to go with this front suspension, even though ALL I DO is street ride. It was manageable, but I know to be cautious, and am generally semi-talented at not crashing (which comes from a long history of NOT being semi-talented at not crashing). It wasn't as bad as a seat post suspension gone wrong, but it wasn't great either...

Anyway, thanks for the comments on the design of the frame, you are more insightful than I, which observed that it worked, and stayed together, when working in conjunction with a motor that wasn't overheating, performed as expected (even though I hoped to be surprised with the top speed, ha), and made me crave FOR MOOOORE!!! hahaha
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MOTOR DIAGRAMS

Post by eyebyesickle » Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:29 pm

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Re: Budget High Power Frame, Kit, Components - US Distributo

Post by eyebyesickle » Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:09 am

Here is what is going on with the PIE kit -
Max power only can do 1200W now. 30H magnet motor, 30A sine wave controller with App function,waterproof system. Motor weight: 7kg
Ready in... A WEEK!!! So I should have them in testing by the end of the month

The final proof of course - will be - ah - ah - in the PIE, which hopefully doesn't melt into pudding when I crank some power through it...

A couple teaser pics... I am excited, but this is just what I have been looking for, for a couple reasons...


EDIT - renamed A.I.1 - ALL IN ONE!
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Re: Budget High Power Frame, Kit, Components

Post by Samd » Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:23 am

How many poles in that Magic Pie copy?
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Re: Budget High Power Frame, Kit, Components

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Re: Budget High Power Frame, Kit, Components

Post by bionx 1954 » Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:28 pm

Hi I was wondering what the weight of the frame is, and what material is it made of. Thanks

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Re: Budget High Power Frame, Kit, Components

Post by eyebyesickle » Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:31 pm

T2 Steel - 14kg for the small frame, around 20kg for the larger one. A little heavier than the 'enduro' frame. This thing is heavy, but TOUGH - and SOLID.
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Re: Steel E-Frame - $450 FREE SHIPPING + Motors/Kits/Compone

Post by chunder123 » Fri Jul 15, 2016 1:07 pm

the spot welding on these frames does not look very strong on the inside as it is not continuously welded all the the way along by the looks of it on the photo.

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Re: Steel E-Frame - $450 FREE SHIPPING + Motors/Kits/Compone

Post by eyebyesickle » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:21 pm

chunder123 wrote:the spot welding on these frames does not look very strong on the inside as it is not continuously welded all the the way along by the looks of it on the photo.
Yeah, I was mentioning that in the review. Cutting corners - tsk tsk. This thing is very structurally sound though, the tacking style was more for the panels and where structural integrity wasn't being affected. Its SOLID where it counts, for sure.

Good eye. One of the cons for sure. Not too bad though IMO. Other similar frames took some touching up too, in my experience.
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Re: *NEW* LARGE CAPACITY E-FRAME + MOTORS/KITS/ACC - (RE-CYC

Post by eyebyesickle » Sun Jul 17, 2016 3:13 am

DEMO FRAME/EEB FRAME - SOLD (reserved to replace with some sort of useful information)
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3kW UPDATE!

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Re: $450(shipped!) FRAMES + MOTORS/ETC (RE-CYCLES) SALES/SUP

Post by DanGT86 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 4:02 pm

Interesting approach with the dual wiring. I could see that being useful for people who don't want to pull wires through an axle for an upgrade. I have done that once and don't care to do it again. Might be a little annoying to have wires on the drive side but not unmanageable considering some of the other annoyances us ebike builders are used to. It does seem like the ability to cram big amps through 2 sets of wires is negated by poor cooling of the steel stator support on that motor though. It will be interesting to see the response it gets around here.

Any frame geometry gurus out there who could weigh in on the effect of having the swing arm pivot so far away from the bottom bracket? Seems like the Enduro frame has them really close together by comparison. I would suspect having them close together would minimize the strange feeling of standing on the lever instead of your entire body weight being sprung weight. High end bikes have eccentric bottom brackets so discerning riders can make very small adjustments to the bottom bracket position. Having the bottom bracket swing through an ark of several inches seems like a drastic change in body position in the bike world. Reach when standing on the pedals is really important for some styles of riding and usually not a dynamic thing. I'm not sure at what level of skill a rider starts to really perceive the effects of this, just wondering about it after looking at those side by side frame pics.

Anyway, hope I don't sound critical about your products. Just thinking outloud and hoping some more experienced folks can elaborate on some of these finer points of bike/ebike design.

Good luck with your sales! It's always nice to have more vendors and products to choose from.

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Re: $450(shipped!) FRAMES + MOTORS/ETC (RE-CYCLES) SALES/SUP

Post by ohzee » Mon Jul 18, 2016 5:30 pm

Looks like something people on the board would be quite interested in.

Poking around I could not find a bike shop in Nashville named re-cycles tho doesn't necessarily mean anything. You said you did some local conversions so figured you had to have something.

Just would like to have some physical information on a company/person before purchasing. If I over looked something I apologize just approach those good deals with caution.

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Re: $450(shipped!) FRAMES + MOTORS/ETC (RE-CYCLES) SALES/SUP

Post by teklektik » Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:08 pm

You should seriously consider sending sample motor(s) to Justin at Grin Tech to get them tested and included in the ebikes.ca Simulator. This is the GoTo design and comparison tool. At least send a sample of the motor with the best copper fill (wind x strands).

Also:
Stator width?
Lamination thickness?
Strands per wind for available winds to gauge the relative copper fill?
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Re: $450(shipped!) FRAMES + MOTORS/ETC (RE-CYCLES) SALES/SUP

Post by eyebyesickle » Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:50 pm

DanGT86 wrote:Interesting approach with the dual wiring. I could see that being useful for people who don't want to pull wires through an axle for an upgrade. I have done that once and don't care to do it again. Might be a little annoying to have wires on the drive side but not unmanageable considering some of the other annoyances us ebike builders are used to. It does seem like the ability to cram big amps through 2 sets of wires is negated by poor cooling of the steel stator support on that motor though. It will be interesting to see the response it gets around here.
Yes my thoughts exactly on the upgrades. I felt the same way about the wires on the drive side at first, but honestly, after dealing with it, I like the even-ness (I am very OCD, except with spelling apparently) and not worrying about the bulk mass on one side somehow getting caught up...

As for the core - the steel stator works very well with the ferrofluid, which allows them to run much cooler...
DanGT86 wrote:Any frame geometry gurus out there who could weigh in on the effect of having the swing arm pivot so far away from the bottom bracket? Seems like the Enduro frame has them really close together by comparison. I would suspect having them close together would minimize the strange feeling of standing on the lever instead of your entire body weight being sprung weight. High end bikes have eccentric bottom brackets so discerning riders can make very small adjustments to the bottom bracket position. Having the bottom bracket swing through an ark of several inches seems like a drastic change in body position in the bike world. Reach when standing on the pedals is really important for some styles of riding and usually not a dynamic thing. I'm not sure at what level of skill a rider starts to really perceive the effects of this, just wondering about it after looking at those side by side frame pics.
I will tell you what, I have tried (briefly, albeit) a few higher end frames, and the travel on this isn't too bad. This thought crossed my mind as well, but it felt fine. Coming from the guy selling them, of course! :lol:
DanGT86 wrote:Anyway, hope I don't sound critical about your products. Just thinking outloud and hoping some more experienced folks can elaborate on some of these finer points of bike/ebike design.

Good luck with your sales! It's always nice to have more vendors and products to choose from.

Nah, you're good - didn't seem critical - but feel free to be - as long as it is constructive!

Thanks,

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Re: $450(shipped!) FRAMES + MOTORS/ETC (RE-CYCLES) SALES/SUP

Post by eyebyesickle » Mon Jul 18, 2016 8:06 pm

teklektik wrote:You should seriously consider sending sample motor(s) to Justin at Grin Tech to get them tested and included in the ebikes.ca Simulator. This is the GoTo design and comparison tool. At least send a sample of the motor with the best copper fill (wind x strands).

Also:
Stator width?
Lamination thickness?
Strands per wind for available winds to gauge the relative copper fill?
Stator : 45mm
18*3T; 14*4T; 11*5T

The test hadn't even crossed my mind (because I didn't know about it!). That seems to be a very trusted resource, and he seems to be a very knowledgeable guy. I am so new to this all, didn't even think of this sort of thing. I will contact him about it. I was looking at the compact controllers thread... perfect for my higher end stealth conversions, and could sit literally right under the seat...

Man, see, with my personality, I feel like I have to stay up 2 nights straight studying and learning the next step here concerning motors, just so I am on a level sufficient enough to converse and come out with something from it. He was a resource I had considered tapping otherwise, concerning some R&D...

Either way, once I get in the PIE motors/controllers, I want to send him one of those too...

I'll look into this, and contact him soon - THANKS

- David
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Re: $450(shipped!) FRAMES + MOTORS/ETC (RE-CYCLES) SALES/SUP

Post by Tats » Mon Jul 18, 2016 8:10 pm

Any particular reason why us to Aus shipping is so difficult? Just yesterday I had someone also say "sorry we don't ship to Aus" - seems to be a thing...

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Re: $450(shipped!) FRAMES + MOTORS/ETC (RE-CYCLES) SALES/SUP

Post by DAND214 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:26 pm

eyebyesickle WROTE:
JULY 18th, 2016 - NOW TAKING DEPOSITS ON 3kW DUAL END WIRE MOTORS/KITS!!!

Production time is 25-30 days, and we are just about to start a production run for these (right behind the internal controller motor run that we are on)

Meanwhile, we are taking DEPOSITS, at a slightly DISCOUNTED RATE. Production starts FRIDAY July 22nd, 2017! It will take from 25-30 days until shipping from then!!!
Production starts FRIDAY July 22nd, 2017! NEXT YEAR or have I been sleeping all this time?

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Re: $450(shipped!) FRAMES + MOTORS/ETC (RE-CYCLES) SALES/SUP

Post by eyebyesickle » Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:35 pm

Tats wrote:Any particular reason why us to Aus shipping is so difficult? Just yesterday I had someone also say "sorry we don't ship to Aus" - seems to be a thing...
EDITING OP

I can ship to AUS, was sorting it out... I didn't feel like it was a viable option worth anyones time... because both expense, and options that I see available there... Let me know if you want a quote...

EDITED 7/22 - WE WORKED OUR DISTRIBUTION OUT, AND NOW PROVIDE SHIPPING TO AUSTRALIA, AS WELL TO OTHER AREAS
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