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Re: New Chargery 1500 24s charger

Post by Inwo » Mar 11 2019 9:10pm

Keep in mind bms-16 does not balance.
New bms-16t does.
Also have bms-8t now. Now with com. port.

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Re: New Chargery 1500 24s charger

Post by leffex » Mar 12 2019 6:44am

Inwo wrote:
Mar 11 2019 9:10pm
Keep in mind bms-16 does not balance.
New bms-16t does.
Also have bms-8t now. Now with com. port.
Do you have these for sale or was it just a few you sold about a year ago?

I may get one but not right now. Trying something else. If the chargery works without bms then its' seriously interessting. For charging at home and having it set at a good charge rate rather than go max all the time hehe :D
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Re: New Chargery 1500 24s charger

Post by Inwo » Mar 12 2019 10:23am

I still sell a few, but there are other dealers now.
The C10325 is a great charger and works fine stand alone.

The C4012 is not a "bad" charger either, but it suffers from the same limitations as other balance chargers. Balance current is around an amp, so it must cut charger current way back when a cell goes high. It's ok for small batteries or well matched cells.
Use it if you need a a high current charger/power supply that displays up to 12s.
Do not use it to "do-it-all and walk away".
It failed my first test charging wildly mismatched 60ah LiFePo4 cells. I have since found that nothing else will magically do it either.

The only thing that comes close is an 8-16s 4 amp active balancer.
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batship -- Smart Balancing for LiPo/Li-ion -- that doesn't balance

Post by bobmutch » Mar 12 2019 7:13pm

Inwo wrote:
Mar 11 2019 9:10pm
Keep in mind bms-16 does not balance.
New bms-16t does.
Also have bms-8t now. Now with com. port.
Ya I know people that have bought them thinking the BMS16 was a BMS like it says That is clearly shitty marketing as it should stay right straight up every ad THIS BMS DOES NOT BALANCE.

To me that makes it a shitty product. And a good reason not to buy it. This just makes me more against Chargery products seriously!

Selling a BMS and not being very clear in the advertizing that it doesn't balance, unbelievable

And look at this bull shit, they call the BMS16 a "Smart Balancing for LiPo/Li-ion batteries pack" like omg.

http://www.chargery.com/BMS16.asp
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Here is more bull shit, they give a product description of the BMS16 and the BMS16T and the only difference is 100A charge 300A discharge vs 300A charge 600A discharge. Nothing about the "fact" that the BMS16 doesn't balance and that the BMS16T does.

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Re: New Chargery 1500 24s charger

Post by bobmutch » Mar 12 2019 8:17pm

Inwo wrote:
Mar 11 2019 9:10pm
Inwo

Do you know what this unit does. I notice it only comes with the BMS16 not with the BMS16T.

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It seems like it is the system that provide 12V to the contractor coil circuit, and also a delay so that a pre-charge circuit can be activated first and the motor controllers caps charged so there is not a damaging in rush of current?
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Re: New Chargery 1500 24s charger

Post by jimbob01 » Mar 13 2019 4:34am

yes ...we all like transparency...it builds trust...
a good product will get good reviews and sell well because of it.. the concept is appealing...
could someone tear one up and review....?
maybe jason from chargery could offer one to electricgod free as a tear up and review...?

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Re: New Chargery 1500 24s charger

Post by bobmutch » Mar 14 2019 1:56am

jimbob01 wrote:
Mar 13 2019 4:34am
maybe jason from chargery could offer one to electricgod free as a tear up and review...?
LOL, electricgod already wrote a review on Chargery from an overall point of view after having 2 or 3 of their products on the bench -- and it wasn't very good.

Here's the EG thread on the C4020B.
https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=95330
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Re: New Chargery 1500 24s charger

Post by leffex » Mar 21 2019 5:17pm

jimbob01 wrote:
Mar 10 2019 1:13pm
whats the other charger you are looking at? ,... can you post a link? 🙂
0-90v 0-30a - OR - 0-120v 0-25a version
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3000W-B ... 6becSatGwe


though, I don't trust the power ratings 100% but I will use it at maximum 2600w of 3000w so no big deal. It's good to have the choice for fast charge, aye? :D I had to buy it first and get it shipped before letting you know, hehe, sorry, :banana:
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Re: New Chargery 1500 24s charger

Post by jimbob01 » Mar 22 2019 10:54am

sounds pretty good...be intresting to see how it goes over a year or so...😎

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Re: New Chargery 1500 24s charger

Post by cricketo » Mar 31 2019 3:16pm

The C10325 is a great charger and works fine stand alone.
I liked the feature set, though menu implementation and the connector were kind of annoying. However, fried it this morning - I was running it in power supply mode charging 14s Leaf pack at 10A, and when BMS disconnected the charger due to pack being full, charger went "pop". Upon inspection there are some fried resistors on the back of the PCB. E-mailed Jason, will see what he says. I only had occasional use with the charger since October.

P.S. looking for recommendations for another charger with somewhat similar feature set (adjustable voltage, current, Lithium and Lead-Acid compatibility).

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Re: New Chargery 1500 24s charger

Post by ENNOID » Mar 31 2019 3:34pm

I'd give a try to this one instead:

http://evcomponents.com/customized-char ... arger.html

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Re: New Chargery 1500 24s charger

Post by Inwo » Mar 31 2019 10:48pm

cricketo wrote:
Mar 31 2019 3:16pm
The C10325 is a great charger and works fine stand alone.
I liked the feature set, though menu implementation and the connector were kind of annoying. However, fried it this morning - I was running it in power supply mode charging 14s Leaf pack at 10A, and when BMS disconnected the charger due to pack being full, charger went "pop". Upon inspection there are some fried resistors on the back of the PCB. E-mailed Jason, will see what he says. I only had occasional use with the charger since October.

P.S. looking for recommendations for another charger with somewhat similar feature set (adjustable voltage, current, Lithium and Lead-Acid compatibility).
He will take care of it.
I have a couple that need repair myself.
It's a great charger, but too many failures. Jason says that latest design uses a higher rated tvs diode. To prevent the dreaded pop on open circuit.
Sometimes it's only the anti-spark board. Easy repair. If power fuse is blown, it can be a huge task.

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Re: New Chargery 1500 24s charger

Post by cricketo » Mar 31 2019 11:17pm

Inwo wrote:
Mar 31 2019 10:48pm
He will take care of it.
I have a couple that need repair myself.
It's a great charger, but too many failures. Jason says that latest design uses a higher rated tvs diode. To prevent the dreaded pop on open circuit.
Sometimes it's only the anti-spark board. Easy repair. If power fuse is blown, it can be a huge task.
He responded back to me suggesting that it was a mistake to use it in Power Supply mode. However, it didn't play nicely with my BMS - once the charge was activated, it almost immediately went offline, likely due to BMS charger detection conflicting with the charger. Jason indeed suggested I should mail it to them for repair, but I'm hesitant due to amount of time it will take to go around the globe and the shipping costs.

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Re: New Chargery 1500 24s charger

Post by leffex » Apr 11 2019 12:33pm

jimbob01 wrote:
Mar 22 2019 10:54am
sounds pretty good...be intresting to see how it goes over a year or so...😎
0-90v, 0-30a charger

A year has passed. It works great. haha! one day. Yes it does work great. It charges to the voltage that you set and rollback of amperage as the voltage reaches its target. I just cut it, removed the battery from charge as it was charging at 1amp.

I use it at 230v from the wall. What surprised me was that it didn't have any limit of voltage, you can switch it to higher than components can handle is my guess but I will never do that.
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Re: New Chargery 1500 24s charger

Post by cricketo » Jul 04 2019 10:05am

Inwo wrote:
Mar 31 2019 10:48pm
He will take care of it.
I have a couple that need repair myself.
It's a great charger, but too many failures. Jason says that latest design uses a higher rated tvs diode. To prevent the dreaded pop on open circuit.
Sometimes it's only the anti-spark board. Easy repair. If power fuse is blown, it can be a huge task.
To follow up... I ended up sending my charger to Jason for repairs (after communicating with him and receiving shipping instructions). That was two months ago, and according to the tracking number it was delivered. I haven't heard from him since, and started reaching out to check on the progress and got no reply in the last two weeks. So far it looks like I got screwed :)

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