Phi-Power motors (Australian EOI)

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Phi-Power motors (Australian EOI)

Post by jonescg » Oct 04 2017 7:11am

Hey everyone,

Voltron Motorcycles Pty Ltd is pleased to be able to offer these awesome synchronous motors from Phi-Power to Australian customers!
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Phi-Power has begun manufacturing these incredible machines in Switzerland, and they offer some of the highest torque and power densities around. The Phi271 and Phi-27S are pretty state-of-the-art
http://www.phi-power.com/en/phi-power-motor-series/

The PhE-381 motor is pretty much identical to the Evo motor which powers Voltron Evo (hence the namesake ;) )
Datasheets here: http://www.phi-power.com/wp-content/upl ... t-V1.3.pdf

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The PhE382 motor is the dual-rotor version of the same. 400 kW peak :shock: http://www.phi-power.com/wp-content/upl ... t-V1.3.pdf

Multiple winds exist for these motors - the PhE381 3-turn motor calls for a 360 V nominal DC bus, while the PHE381 4-turn motor will run on a 630 V DC bus (just like Voltron). Happy to advise and supply batteries to suit too by the way ;)

I am putting a call out to any Australian members who might be interested in purchasing motors. It's not an exclusive deal, but I regularly import goods and I'm happy to get them into the country and move them on at pretty much cost + GST. Customers in Europe are best contacting Phi-Power directly through the contact page.

Indicative pricing is $10k + GST for the Phi271, $12k + GST for the PhE-381 and $22k for the PhE382. This price is quite dependent on how much interest there is, and what economies of scale might exist in their production.

But basically if you want a proper, high-performance, balls-out electric race car or bike, a PhE motor is one of the best.

PM for details etc.

Cheers,
Chris

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Post by Hyena » Oct 04 2017 5:42pm

Can I bolt it up to my walmart bike ?
Sorry, just thought I'd get that out of the way before some other clown asks :lol:

What a beast!
Nice work on offering these up, though I imagine unfortunately there'll be pretty limited interest due to few numbers of people prepared to build something with this level of badassery. And then of course the next hurdle is finding a controller powerful enough to run it.

Any ballpark pricing of the Phi27S ?
That would make for a great little around-town power:weight screamer.
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Post by jonescg » Oct 04 2017 8:21pm

:lol:

Yeah, it's high end stuff for sure. I felt like $12k was too much for 175 kW... until I rode it - immediately felt like it was worth every cent :D
Controllers are easy - get a Rinehart PM100 or 150. Best inverter ever. They're not cheap either, but they are coming down in price. About $9k for a PM150DZ last time I checked.

I'll ask Michael about pricing for the Phi27S - I'm guessing it will be the highest $/kW but will report back for sure.

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Post by jonescg » Oct 05 2017 9:50pm

The Phi27S would be about AU$6000 + GST. A lot of coin, but man those kW numbers are good...

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Post by markz » Oct 08 2017 2:24pm

It sure beats a fork lift motor

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Post by Rube » Oct 09 2017 4:26am

Sssshhhhh don't tell Sketch we need him in one piece to keep making cool stuff.
Seriously, Voltron Motorcycles Pty Ltd has proven credentials to service people in the market for these power levels.
Potential new powertrain for Voltron Chris?

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Post by jonescg » Oct 09 2017 5:39am

I'll go a PhE-381 again in a heartbeat. Because, POWER!

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Post by Samd » Oct 21 2017 3:46pm

Nice!


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Post by jonescg » Jan 05 2018 8:56am

Hey everyone - just a reminder that access to Phi-Power motors is a good thing:
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12,000 rpm, 155 kW peak from a 20 kg motor 8) Mind you, not many chains will take that sort of speed...

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Post by Hillhater » Jan 15 2018 9:02pm

So , is this for your next bike build ? :)
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Post by jonescg » Jan 15 2018 9:49pm

If I were to put a bike together for the Isle of Man, I would seriously consider the Phi271. 20 kg lighter, still a goodly amount of power, and more room / mass for battery.

But for another electric superbike I'll go for the PhE381. Because the power is pretty nice 8)

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Post by Frank » Jan 16 2018 8:05am

HI Chris,

This looks very nice indeed - are there any output curves for the 271? (Sorry if you've already posted and I missed it.)

thanks,
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Post by jonescg » Jan 16 2018 8:25am

Frank wrote:
Jan 16 2018 8:05am
(Sorry if you've already posted and I missed it.)
Not explicitly, but it can be found by scrolling down the page a few centimetres:
http://www.phi-power.com/en/phi-power-motor-series/

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Post by Frank » Jan 16 2018 9:11am

Thanks, not sure how I missed it. I've never seen a torque curve look like that but peak power is right up there where you want it - begs for a 2-speed gearbox... :wink:
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Post by ScooterMan101 » Jan 16 2018 11:03am

This one looks about right for a Street Motorcycle ( Street Legal Speeds ) as most people ride their Sport Bikes at around 40-45 Hp when riding public roads , mid RPM Range , even though Most Sport bikes are rated at 100 hp or more when operating at the upper RPM's .
and the power to weight ratio is great.

Water Cooled ?

Out of my Budget but who knows what the price will be in the Future.
I am going to have to start playing the Lotto .




jonescg wrote:
Oct 05 2017 9:50pm
The Phi27S would be about AU$6000 + GST. A lot of coin, but man those kW numbers are good...
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It's 2018 already, lets get some real , improved e-bike / e-velomobile / e-motorcycle designs .

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