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48v 11ah nos boxes of 12 cells

Post by Inwo » Dec 01 2017 1:09am

12 lto pouches Altairnano by Kokam
New in factory box.
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Re: 48v 11ah nos $150

Post by Sunder » Dec 05 2017 11:29pm

Can these be shipped to Australia?
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Re: 48v 11ah nos $150

Post by Inwo » Dec 06 2017 3:51pm

I've shipped them USPS.
Sorry, I keep forgetting this is an international site. :oops:
I believe that flat rate boxes are limited to 20lb, but two boxes would do 22.
I have 1000 left and access to 10,000 more.
If you wanted a bunch, may be a broker could arrange by sea. Over my pay grade. My brother has had things shipped from China by sea, using a broker.
I'd love to share these. Few love LTO like Steve and myself.
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Re: 48v 11ah nos $150

Post by Inwo » Dec 06 2017 4:05pm

I've shipped them USPS.
Sorry, I keep forgetting this is an international site. :oops:
I believe that flat rate boxes are limited to 20lb, but two boxes would do 22.
I have 1000 left and access to 10,000 more.
If you wanted a bunch, may be a broker could arrange by sea. Over my pay grade. My brother has had things shipped from China by sea, using a broker.
I'd love to share these. Few love LTO like Steve and myself.
Dave

30 pcs are under 20lb
Maybe fewer if I built a wood case inside.
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Re: 48v 11ah nos $150

Post by Sunder » Dec 06 2017 6:00pm

Wow. $118AUD (Less than $100USD) to ship the box of generic goods. $968USD if I declare them to be batteries.

Will look into it further, but to be honest, even at the generic shipping rate, it's only about 20% cheaper than buying new.
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Re: 48v 11ah nos $150

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Re: 48v 11ah nos boxes of 12 cells

Post by Inwo » Dec 24 2017 8:22pm

I can sell off Ebay for $7.50 each.
I believe I can send 12 for $20 shipping. (USA)
Straps or end terminals are $2 each

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Re: 48v 11ah nos boxes of 12 cells

Post by Kin » Dec 27 2017 10:57am

Do you have any more information about the cells? I'm not familiar with the cell type, sorry.

So are you selling these as 12 cells for $150 + $50 CONUS shipping?

And what material are the tabs made of?

Thanks!
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Re: 48v 11ah nos boxes of 12 cells

Post by Inwo » Dec 27 2017 11:49am

Full box of 22 for $150
Conus only

12 pcs will fit in a flat rate box for $20
$7.50 X 12 = $90
I have plated copper connecting straps and 100a terminals for $2 each.
Tabs are soft aluminum. I can weld the in custom modules, if I find a way to ship safely. Ie. plastic ammo cans or battery box.
Similar cost to straps.
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Re: 48v 11ah nos boxes of 12 cells

Post by Inwo » Jan 15 2018 10:44pm

I've sold a few to members in USA for $120. Box of 12pcs shipped conus, when paid friends and family.
If you would like 22ah, I will weld them in 2p config., $1 /weld.
At this time, not doing series welds, do to shipping issues.
I may see if I can weld copper foil to tabs for easy solder.
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Re: 48v 11ah nos boxes of 12 cells

Post by Inwo » Mar 15 2018 6:38pm

Example 2p6s:

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Extremely tight compressed fit in a 4" wide ammo box.

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Re: 48v 11ah nos boxes of 12 cells

Post by fechter » Mar 15 2018 7:31pm

Keep in mind 12 series of these cells won't be 48v as the title of the topic states. Use the datasheet to calculate the actual voltage.

I have some of these from an earlier batch and they perform well. The tabs are easy to break off if you bend them more than once.
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Re: 48v 11ah nos boxes of 12 cells

Post by Inwo » Mar 16 2018 9:11pm

fechter wrote:
Mar 15 2018 7:31pm
Keep in mind 12 series of these cells won't be 48v as the title of the topic states. Use the datasheet to calculate the actual voltage.

I have some of these from an earlier batch and they perform well. The tabs are easy to break off if you bend them more than once.
Thanks,
I use 12s for 24v. :oops:
Work with so many chem. That I'm easily confused.
Nominal 2.25v per cell is a good est.

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Re: 48v 11ah nos boxes of 12 cells

Post by Inwo » Apr 04 2018 5:59pm

Business for sale. :D
I'm supposed to be retired. This is getting to be a full time job.
I have yet to take delivery of 5,000 nib Old stock LTO on pallets 11ah cells.

I would just as soon get back to some fun projects rather than selling and shipping 24-7.
My partner gets first refusal on any offers.
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I may change my mind after getting some needed sleep. :oops:

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Re: 48v 11ah nos boxes of 12 cells

Post by Grizzl-E » Apr 12 2018 2:37pm

Anyone come across an affordable bms option for these?

Don’t mean to sidetrack the thread but that info posted here would really up the usefulness of these for the average user. i.e. I’d like to forward this to a couple people but Don’t want to have to find them a bms or take care of thier packs.
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Re: 48v 11ah nos boxes of 12 cells

Post by Inwo » Apr 12 2018 3:34pm

How many cells?
I've tested these balancers. https://www.ebay.com/itm/301611377669
Add heatsink and piggyback an XH connector. (if needed)
Led indicator at 2.7v is nice.

Full bms for LTO are always high cost. Don't know why.
I have an extra one of these 80a 10s for cost if it helps.

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Re: 48v 11ah nos boxes of 12 cells

Post by parabellum » Apr 13 2018 8:11am

Apparently my courier got 2 boxes with, what appears to be, 24 LTO cells. Shipping only took 4 days to Miami. Nice! :D

Invo, what is the best way to punch the tab?
How do you deal with the oxide layer on the tab, before assembly? (Any procedure or product recommendation)

Thank you.

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Re: 48v 11ah nos boxes of 12 cells

Post by Inwo » Apr 13 2018 3:03pm

I made my own by drilling a lineman plier. A paper punch works also.
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Cleaning with a ss brush might be best. Sanchem anti-ox is supposed to cut through a thin oxide coating.
I've had good luck short term


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Re: 48v 11ah nos boxes of 12 cells

Post by cal3thousand » Apr 20 2018 11:54am

Inwo wrote:
Apr 12 2018 3:34pm
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Full bms for LTO are always high cost. Don't know why.
I have an extra one of these 80a 10s for cost if it helps.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Customi ... 0.0.KYrybo

...
Likely due to the high current handling requirements
Get a Cycle Analyst and a Multimeter, you're still a noob if you don't have at least one of each.

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Re: 48v 11ah nos boxes of 12 cells

Post by Sunder » Apr 21 2018 1:21am

Or just because of lower volumes.
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Re: 48v 11ah nos boxes of 12 cells

Post by Inwo » Oct 16 2018 10:56am

1,000 11ah nib lto on a pallet in Iowa.
Getting them back to settle a $6,000 debt.
I would rather have them drop shipped to a new owner and not deal with it.

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