Here you go, sorry spaced it...
http://ouka-ebike.com/bafang-mm-g521500 ... 03094.html
Does look like Ouka is the only one selling it at the moment so it very well maybe a pre order situation.
Fred
Here you go, sorry spaced it...
Drop Dead Fred wrote: ↑Jan 10 2018 3:42pmThe web page says M500 but has the same part number as the M600 ... G521.500Animalector wrote: ↑Jan 09 2018 8:23pmBafang like to put their products on the website, but they're not yet available for sale. Best example is the Max Ultra 1000W drive, it seemed to me like it was online for well over a year before anything was available for purchase. Same goes for the M600, it's online already, but you can't buy one.. Yet...
If it was available it would be the go, but they would likely need to supply the moulding (frame section) etc. Bafang offer the http://www.bafang-e.com/en/components/c ... -g510.html to mount to any frame configuration
Andy
Says 50 available... Not sure if it is true or not.
My bad guys, the dog was barking at me to play ball and I forgot to paste it in the text area.
http://ouka-ebike.com/bafang-mm-g521500 ... 03094.html
Animalector wrote: ↑Jan 10 2018 4:28pmit looks dubious to me. Battery in Pic, but further down the page it has a Hailong Case pictured. Plus I hate it when they get the Part number / specs wrong.
I'll wait until I hear from Bafang or a reputable frame builder that they are available. It's no good to me without a frame anyway
Andy
Well that is great news for you and getting the bracket first.FREYebikes wrote: ↑Jan 11 2018 2:28amAs we known, Bafang no battery matching with their tube. I think we can only develop the battery system by ourselves if want to make the bike pretty look. Bafang told us that we can get the mount bracket before our CNY.
It is possible for us to make the frame after we get the bracket.
Animalector wrote: ↑Jan 10 2018 4:28pmit looks dubious to me. Battery in Pic, but further down the page it has a Hailong Case pictured. Plus I hate it when they get the Part number / specs wrong.
I'll wait until I hear from Bafang or a reputable frame builder that they are available. It's no good to me without a frame anyway
Andy
Hey Drum,Drum wrote: ↑Jan 17 2018 3:06pmWhen designing the rear suspension, keep the bearings for the main swing arm as wide apart as possible, to reduce the maximum force on them and keep the back end as stiff as possible.
Three reasons:
-The chain forces on e-bikes are greater than normal bikes, and there are reports of frames bending sideways due to chain tension;
-It is nicer to ride a bike that feels "solid" than one that feels "flexy".. more confidence inspiring;
-Reducing the forces on the bearings will help them last longer, reducing future maintenance requirements.
I have seen several "mountain bike" frames where the rear suspension bearings have been close together, with no reason not to place them further apart.. bad design. Perhaps the designers thought all forces were neatly aligned in the bike and there would not be any significant side force on the rear suspension.. maybe on narrow-tyred road bikes ridden on smooth surfaces that is reasonable, but mountain bikes can experience very significant side force on the rear wheel when being ridden hard, and the frame needs to be designed to resist these forces.
Focus has optional 2x 360Wh but unfortunately only with Shimano Steps. The worst mid drive ever. You can imagine that it doesn't have toque sensor..Tumich: There is another manufacturer (I think Focus, but not sure) offering e-MTBs with a 400 Watt-Hour battery inbuilt, and a separate clip-on 400Wh battery that can be added externally for longer rides. This allows a lighter / cheaper base bike for those people who only ride a couple of hours, and an above-average capacity optional at extra cost.. not a bad idea.
Drum wrote: ↑Jan 17 2018 3:06pmWhen designing the rear suspension, keep the bearings for the main swing arm as wide apart as possible, to reduce the maximum force on them and keep the back end as stiff as possible.
Three reasons:
-The chain forces on e-bikes are greater than normal bikes, and there are reports of frames bending sideways due to chain tension;
-It is nicer to ride a bike that feels "solid" than one that feels "flexy".. more confidence inspiring;
-Reducing the forces on the bearings will help them last longer, reducing future maintenance requirements.
I have seen several "mountain bike" frames where the rear suspension bearings have been close together, with no reason not to place them further apart.. bad design. Perhaps the designers thought all forces were neatly aligned in the bike and there would not be any significant side force on the rear suspension.. maybe on narrow-tyred road bikes ridden on smooth surfaces that is reasonable, but mountain bikes can experience very significant side force on the rear wheel when being ridden hard, and the frame needs to be designed to resist these forces.
tumich wrote: ↑Jan 18 2018 6:42amI am waiting too for new M600 full suspension.
I'd like to see new Bafang 500W motor with suspension similar like Haibike Nduro. I mean front suspension 180mm. Battery 600-800Wh inside downtube in the frame and optional additional 400-600Wh on the frame (modular system).
Haibike launched it but only for non suspension frames.
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tumich wrote: ↑Jan 18 2018 6:01pmFocus has optional 2x 360Wh but unfortunately only with Shimano Steps. The worst mid drive ever. You can imagine that it doesn't have toque sensor..Tumich: There is another manufacturer (I think Focus, but not sure) offering e-MTBs with a 400 Watt-Hour battery inbuilt, and a separate clip-on 400Wh battery that can be added externally for longer rides. This allows a lighter / cheaper base bike for those people who only ride a couple of hours, and an above-average capacity optional at extra cost.. not a bad idea.
Brose mid drives have optional range extender with 240Wh. So total could be teoreticaly 890Wh.
https://youtu.be/2gQNAt4qi9o?t=2m12s
Sounds good but Brose is good only on paper (in my opinion it has about 70% of Bosch CX power, despite the fact that declare 90Nm versus 75Nm (Bosch).
Maybe Brose S Drive will be improved.
The one thing which looks not good for me in Bafang M600 middrive is "Light Drive Capacity (DCV/W) - 6V/3W.
All Bosch after 2017 have optional 12V and even 35W power. I have headlights dedicated for 12V and it's the best front light available right now. (900 lumens and legal with law in Eu roads).
Animalector wrote: ↑Jan 18 2018 6:41pmFrey: what do you plan to do about the internal battery? or are you planning to make it an external battery?
If it is internal, what battery pack / housing are you planning on using? is there a modular case available that will fit inside a frame? If yes, can you offer a link please?
Thanks
Andy Oudyn
Hey Frey eBikes, check out the review of the Turbo Levo. It shows how good a hidden battery can be.FREYebikes wrote: ↑Jan 19 2018 3:48amHi Andy, we are planning to develop a internal battery, will check about the Bafang down tube firstly, to check whether it is valuable to use or not.
Animalector wrote: ↑Jan 18 2018 6:41pmFrey: what do you plan to do about the internal battery? or are you planning to make it an external battery?
If it is internal, what battery pack / housing are you planning on using? is there a modular case available that will fit inside a frame? If yes, can you offer a link please?
Thanks
Andy Oudyn