FREY eMTB with Bafang m600 is developing with your ideas!

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000

Post by Ecyclist » Dec 27 2020 4:15pm

Kormyr wrote:
Dec 27 2020 2:37pm
FREYebikes wrote:
Dec 25 2020 10:23pm
Hi everyone,

Glad to tell that we will have some new exciting model launched soon around late of January.
Do you think what kinds of the new model will be? and what's the feature and advantage will be available compare with present FREY bike models?
We'd like to have some good communication with you and listen to your voices and ideas.
Some teaser video for the FREY bike model will be available soon to release.
You can follow FreyBike on facebook to keep latest news update to you.

Wish all you have a peaceful and happy new year!

Best Regards,
Ivy Wang
Bigger batteries than the AM1000EX seems difficult.
Carbon would be a great option.
Gates carbon belt drive and Rohloff IGH would make it the ultimate e-bike.
Rohloff Speedhub is the best for an e-bike. Gates carbon belt drive is not. Just a little bit of mud will kill it. For durability go with a chain.
You will not see Rohloff on Chinese bike unless you install it yourself.
Don't expect from life to be easy and then it will be.
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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000

Post by scrambler » Dec 27 2020 4:18pm

Ecyclist wrote:
Dec 27 2020 4:15pm
. Gates carbon belt drive is not. Just a little bit of mud will kill it. For durability go with a chain.
I think you need to revise your knowledge of the gates Center track CDX carbon drive :)
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Also keep in mind there is an alternative to Rohloff called Kindernay

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000

Post by Ecyclist » Dec 27 2020 7:25pm

scrambler wrote:
Dec 27 2020 4:18pm
Ecyclist wrote:
Dec 27 2020 4:15pm
. Gates carbon belt drive is not. Just a little bit of mud will kill it. For durability go with a chain.
I think you need to revise your knowledge of the gates Center track CDX carbon drive :)
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Also keep in mind there is an alternative to Rohloff called Kindernay
I hate to admit, but it looks like a new CDX belts can handle mud just fine.
Now, someone needs to build a special and stiff frame for a full suspension mountain bike and convince Chinese to put it all together. Good luck with that?
Kindernay has no track record and cost more so why bother.
Rohloff or Kindernay + belt drive on Chinese bike = 0 :-)
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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000

Post by Hardcore » Dec 27 2020 8:46pm

FREYebikes wrote:
Dec 25 2020 10:23pm
Hi everyone,

Glad to tell that we will have some new exciting model launched soon around late of January.
Do you think what kinds of the new model will be? and what's the feature and advantage will be available compare with present FREY bike models?
We'd like to have some good communication with you and listen to your voices and ideas.
Some teaser video for the FREY bike model will be available soon to release.
You can follow FreyBike on facebook to keep latest news update to you.

Wish all you have a peaceful and happy new year!

Best Regards,
Ivy Wang

Frey DH bike

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000

Post by scrambler » Dec 27 2020 8:50pm

Kindernay is a true thru-Axle, has a Hydraulic shifter and is easier to service or swap wheels because of their cage system, so it does have some interests in some situations.

Rohloff or Kindernay plus a Gates Carbon belt is never going to be a cheap proposition, and so far the Chinese manufacturers are focused on that aspect of the equation :)
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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000

Post by Ecyclist » Dec 27 2020 10:44pm

12mm thru-axles is a plus.
Bidirectional hydraulic shifter can be more of a problem than solution. The time will tell.
Cage system looks good at first. The devil is in the detail.
In order for a GH to fit into a cage some slop is needed. Some kind of gap that allows it all to slide in.
What will happen if GH is moved out and put back in the cage?
It will never be in the same spot. How close; it all depends on tolerance. This will produce a runout.
Something to think about.
Don't expect from life to be easy and then it will be.
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Avian with hypocycloidal drive https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewt ... 2#p1318056
2016 GNG extreme drive https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewt ... 28&t=82252

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000

Post by 18650 » Dec 29 2020 5:31am

Question about Frey EX with dual battery: do you always leave the external battery on (for simultaneous ageing of the cells?) or can the bike be safely used with the 2nd battery on and off? Where can I find the cover for the external battery mount for when the 2nd battery would be off?

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000

Post by FREYebikes » Dec 30 2020 2:39am

Carbon frame is under consideration for future.
FlyingFinn wrote:
Dec 27 2020 12:38pm
FREYebikes wrote:
Dec 25 2020 10:23pm
Hi everyone,

Glad to tell that we will have some new exciting model launched soon around late of January.
Do you think what kinds of the new model will be? and what's the feature and advantage will be available compare with present FREY bike models?
We'd like to have some good communication with you and listen to your voices and ideas.
Some teaser video for the FREY bike model will be available soon to release.
You can follow FreyBike on facebook to keep latest news update to you.

Wish all you have a peaceful and happy new year!

Best Regards,
Ivy Wang
Nice! Looking forward to it.

Carbon frame,

Option for electronic gear shift could be nice. Such as Shimano XT Di2, Sram AXS or Archer D1x,

Another nice option could be the Innotrace Archon X1 controller.

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000

Post by FREYebikes » Dec 30 2020 2:43am

Bigger battery is also possible to look forward.
Kormyr wrote:
Dec 27 2020 2:37pm
FREYebikes wrote:
Dec 25 2020 10:23pm
Hi everyone,

Glad to tell that we will have some new exciting model launched soon around late of January.
Do you think what kinds of the new model will be? and what's the feature and advantage will be available compare with present FREY bike models?
We'd like to have some good communication with you and listen to your voices and ideas.
Some teaser video for the FREY bike model will be available soon to release.
You can follow FreyBike on facebook to keep latest news update to you.

Wish all you have a peaceful and happy new year!

Best Regards,
Ivy Wang
Bigger batteries than the AM1000EX seems difficult.
Carbon would be a great option.
Gates carbon belt drive and Rohloff IGH would make it the ultimate e-bike.

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Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000

Post by Ecyclist » Dec 31 2020 4:10am

FREYebikes wrote:
Dec 30 2020 2:39am
Carbon frame is under consideration for future.
And so is a bike powered by thorium reactor. :lol:
Don't expect from life to be easy and then it will be.
My builds:
Avian with hypocycloidal drive https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewt ... 2#p1318056
2016 GNG extreme drive https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewt ... 28&t=82252

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Re: Frey CC ordered!

Post by Trob777 » Dec 31 2020 10:04am

Hi Frey
Bigger Battery,
or ( duel battery )
Yari front fork,
Uprated rear shock,
Better group set,
Maxxis off-road tires.
For those that still like to ride mild trails ( no jumps )
But have hip or back issues who can't throw leg over seat,
or are to short to stand over am1000 or EX pro
Thanks
Rob
HAPPY NEW YEAR
谢谢

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Re: About 2021 FREY BIKE new model conjecture and discussion

Post by brake034 » Jan 01 2021 12:58am

Release to be announced later, between 20-30 January, here is a sample; https://youtu.be/4dUm-cacn_0
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Re: FREY eMTB with Bafang m600 is developing with your ideas!

Post by brake034 » Jan 18 2021 8:22pm

Yesterday Frey posted on their Facebook page the dates for the release of the new model. Both events will take place on the Frey Facebook account.
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Re: FREY eMTB with Bafang m600 is developing with your ideas!

Post by brake034 » Jan 22 2021 9:51pm

This weekend 😀
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Re: FREY eMTB with Bafang m600 is developing with your ideas!

Post by brake034 » Jan 23 2021 7:00pm

More specifications of the Beast will be coming out the next few days.

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Re: FREY eMTB with Bafang m600 is developing with your ideas!

Post by PRW » Jan 24 2021 1:26pm

Ok. Once they know, hopefully they tell us.

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Re: FREY eMTB with Bafang m600 is developing with your ideas!

Post by PRW » Jan 24 2021 2:23pm

PRW wrote:
Jan 24 2021 1:26pm
Ok. Once they know, hopefully they tell us.
edit - found this on FB...
Beast coming from foggy forest!
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FREY Custom Bafang 60V M620 system
FREY 60V 24.5Ah/52V 28Ah battery system.
29"/27.5" wheelset.

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