Thanks for the tip. Impossible to see why you should not buy directly from ASI if it works like that, it's even sold at the same price.I've been lied to several times about when the controller will ship
Because its a company. they are not interested in your "pushing controllers to dead"Mywpn wrote: ↑Oct 16 2018 5:06amLike majority the ONLY thing stopping me from purchasing this controller is the limiting software. I have no care for wanting warranties. As I’ve pushed a number of controllers to there failure. I just can’t understand how they would want to lose so many sales for a simple “here you go unlimited software capability. You play you pay, there is no warranty sold with you’re controller”
Unfortunately, I have to report the same experience. I have had good experiences purchasing from Alan at ERT in the past, so my hope is that there's some reasonable explanation for this delay, but I'm starting to get frustrated with the weekly unfulfilled promises. I can understand if there's a problem with the supply, or he's understaffed, or whatever, but I need that to be communicated to me, not repeatedly tell me it's going to ship "right away" when that's clearly a lie. Originally placed my order for a BAC 8000 on August 2nd, still no tracking number...flat tire wrote: ↑Oct 15 2018 4:27pmAfter waiting over a month for a controller I still haven't received I can't recommend this vendor. ASI makes good stuff but these guys can't get it to you. I've been lied to several times about when the controller will ship, starting a MONTH ago when I bought it and culminating last Wednesday in a tracking number for a label that as of today is still sitting on their printer. That's so ridiculously unprofessional it's almost funny, except I'm still out over $600 with no controller.
I should have just bought this thing straight from ASI.
That's even more messed up than my situation. The worst thing is being continually lied to. Alan is extremely dishonest. I really don't see the point of this behavior. It makes no sense. Eventually he has to deliver the controller or he forfeits the money. And he can't keep doing business like this or pretty soon nobody who can use google will buy from him.
Merlin wrote: ↑Oct 16 2018 6:48amBecause its a company. they are not interested in your "pushing controllers to dead"Mywpn wrote: ↑Oct 16 2018 5:06amLike majority the ONLY thing stopping me from purchasing this controller is the limiting software. I have no care for wanting warranties. As I’ve pushed a number of controllers to there failure. I just can’t understand how they would want to lose so many sales for a simple “here you go unlimited software capability. You play you pay, there is no warranty sold with you’re controller”
if someone is interessted in this company, maybe for OEM stuff. they will find alot of blown controllers from those guys like you (thats not bad. did the same with the infineon lyen crap) but if you dont want bad reputation outside, its better you dont care about "pushers"
beside that. look at the size and weight of an 8000. where do you need above 700amps?
I’m too in business. In the automotive trade and do a lot of performance cars. Without people with a likemind like myself where would be In life? If I wanted to be like most I’d be not asking the question. I’ve had a lot to do with high powered e-bikes. And I want to go further than most have. . And I will in time be backing these claims with some real track performance times. My passion is drag racing so it’s a given that for me it’s about making it accelerate fast. I may have to look into car ev. Or back to sabvoton. And I assure you they are already up to task against to the ASI. I can’t justify doubling the price for no gain.
Does the asi support 32s?
What Sabvoton controller is that? I have not seen any sabvotons above 250A battery.Or back to sabvoton. And I assure you they are already up to task against to the ASI. I can’t justify doubling the price for no gain.
I did send you an email stating that ASI was attending the interbike expo which was roughly about a month ago when you placed your order. Due to interbike ASI suspended all orders and operations for 2 weeks, then another week for ASI to catch up on their orders. So understand that I could not replenish my stock of controllers. When I finally did replenish my stock, I also have other orders to fulfill aside from yours. I was trying my best to fulfill all orders as quickly as possible, and in either case I checked the tracking number for your order. It is scheduled for delivery tomorrow.flat tire wrote: ↑Oct 16 2018 9:32pmThe controller might be on its way and guess what, it comes with 2 more lies from ERT:
1) the controller will ship Monday. it didn't. Don't say it if you can't guarantee it! How many times was I told it would ship on x date, when it didn't? Lost count.
2) Told yesterday it will be overnighted, he even said no problem. Guess what, it's not being overnighted and sure as hell won't arrive tomorrow!
Completely inexcusable. What did I expect?
I took 72v as a hard limit like on most controllers, as in, if you approach it it might die. I'm replacing a bike that had a Max-E right now and since Adaptto's parts are out of stock everywhere and this seems to have a superior control algorithm plus better power density, I am quite interested. But I'd like to run at least 20s to hit my top speed.spinningmagnets wrote: ↑Sep 27 2018 10:18amI've read LFPs posts for years, and I've never caught him exaggerating. If he says he logged 45kW at 60V, then I believe him. Using that as a baseline for comparison, these controllers are rated to run up to 72V (20S?) nominal, even though a fully-charged battery can provide higher peak loads over the nominal rating (3.6V nominal per cell vs 4.2V fully charged)I've already seen 750amps battery amps at 60Vdc with an ASI BAC8000, that's 45kW
750A X 72V = roughly 54kW nominal, and a little more if the battery is freshly charged. (20S X 4.2V = 84V). We all need to start collecting hands-on data on this controller family, so we can separate the real-world performance from theory and advertising. However, I have to admit I am impressed.
As a dealer, the 1 year warranty still applies and their RMA service is excellent. I have had a few units replaced free of charge, and free shipping to and from ASI for warranty service.Jozzer wrote: ↑Oct 18 2018 5:28amA note on ASI warranty - their 1 year offer starts when a DEALER buys from them, not when the dealer sells on to the end user. I know this from personal experience of trying to sell their products and not getting support for controller failures (of which there were more than one).